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Title: A1 ponderings
Post by: kwow on Feb 13, 2024, 06:28 PM

Back when I got my first bottle of A1 from pxs, I got a 12.5mcg, then when that finished I got a 20mcg. And now I wonder, why I got that much?

My experiences using it were a little mixed, but I noticed at higher doses I seemed to give off gay best friend vibes. Between 40-60mcg. This is stacked with products like NAG + Voodoo, or Xist + Evolve (silly combination in hindsight). My close rate at dates is great, but I noticed the few failures I had were with higher doses of A1. Like we spent 3-5 hours talking and laughing, lots of kino, hugging, caressing, but when the date was over they said they're not sure they see it sexually. Which was really confusing.

Back in the old forum there was some debate at whether one should go low or high doses of A1 if they could handle it without the negative side effects. If I'm not mistaken, there was a growing number of advocates for higher numbers a few years ago.

I think I would stick to half a spray at 10mcg whenever I would use it again. That being said:

1.) What dosage do you think works best for you guys?
2.) Which company you usually buy your A1 from?
3.) Do you think there is there even a reason to buy standalone A1 now with all these great imprinting products readily available?
Title: Re: A1 ponderings
Post by: Johnny Fever on Feb 13, 2024, 09:22 PM
I had been buying A1 from Love Scent as it was often said that it was more "crushy" than others. Several discussions had led me to believe that each drop was about 30 mcg per drop, but other on another Love Scent related thread (don't recall where) mentioned it equated to 60 mcg per drop. I had been playing with AS3's Falling In Love mix which mentioned 30 mcg dose of A1, but learning the actual dosing was off I decided to purchase PXS' A1, one bottle was 10 mcg/spray while my most recent bottle was 20 mcg/spray.

I want to dabble with the mix now that I have a variety of A1 concentrations to see if there's any notable differences with different A1 doses.
Title: Re: A1 ponderings
Post by: kwow on Feb 13, 2024, 11:33 PM
Quote from: Johnny Fever on Feb 13, 2024, 09:22 PMI had been playing with AS3's Falling In Love mix which mentioned 30 mcg dose of A1, but learning the actual dosing was off I decided to purchase PXS' A1, one bottle was 10 mcg/spray while my most recent bottle was 20 mcg/spray.

AS3's mix is exactly why I bought A1. I couldn't get it in time and tried to substitute A1 with Voodoo in a NAG + Voodoo + Glace mix. But wanted to try the real thing.

Quote from: Johnny Fever on Feb 13, 2024, 09:22 PMI want to dabble with the mix now that I have a variety of A1 concentrations to see if there's any notable differences with different A1 doses.

I think dabbling with that mix would be great tbh. Seemed like everyone wanted to try that mix, but there weren't that many reports imo. I might try it again myself whenever I get the NA oil since the NAG just doesn't seem to suit me

Quote from: Johnny Fever on Feb 13, 2024, 09:22 PMone bottle was 10 mcg/spray while my most recent bottle was 20 mcg/spray

So in your own experience, 20-40mcg worked for you when you got the 20mcg spray?
Title: Re: A1 ponderings
Post by: Johnny Fever on Feb 14, 2024, 03:13 AM
It might, but one particular target was difficult to crack. In one case it looked like I got better results with a smaller dose but it was hard to read. I never saw anything like deer in the headlights with higher doses but everyone's difference. I know you have to be aware for yourself, too, as I hear some are sensitive to higher A1 and suffer side effects.
Title: Re: A1 ponderings
Post by: TracerX on Feb 14, 2024, 05:34 AM
A1 is what's known as a "female comforter" also it's an imprinter. The reason you'd buy a standalone A1 is usually to combine it with another mone. You can go A1 solo, but most likely you won't get the results you want, and it'll have a chance to mess your mind, or some adverse effects. A lot buy it for the NA+A1 combo and swear by it. Oddly I haven't come around to try it out many times though I have both.

I use A1 that's produced by LaCroy, but a lot have good results with the Aroma Fero A1 and it's very affordable. Can't say much about XS. I don't remember the concentration I had on the bottle so I can't tell you the dose right now (it would require some math as I had to put it in another bottle for more precise drops).

Title: Re: A1 ponderings
Post by: Phero_SA on Feb 14, 2024, 12:52 PM
Since when does LaCroy sell single molecules?
Title: Re: A1 ponderings
Post by: TracerX on Feb 14, 2024, 03:11 PM
They don't on their official website, but they do sell to importers. & resellers. You can get a LaCroy A1 from here if you really want https://singlepheromones.com
Title: Re: A1 ponderings
Post by: kwow on Feb 18, 2024, 04:00 PM
Quote from: Johnny Fever on Feb 14, 2024, 03:13 AMIt might, but one particular target was difficult to crack. In one case it looked like I got better results with a smaller dose but it was hard to read. I never saw anything like deer in the headlights with higher doses but everyone's difference. I know you have to be aware for yourself, too, as I hear some are sensitive to higher A1 and suffer side effects.

I definitely suffer side effects of high dose A1, which is why the added con of being best gal pals at higher dose isn't something I want to continue. Although I wonder what would happen if I just upped a none product at that dose, but even if I did that wouldn't it just mean the regular dose of said none product with a lower dose of A1 would be just as good and waste less product? Ponderings

Quote from: TracerX on Feb 14, 2024, 05:34 AMA1 is what's known as a "female comforter" also it's an imprinter. The reason you'd buy a standalone A1 is usually to combine it with another mone. You can go A1 solo, but most likely you won't get the results you want, and it'll have a chance to mess your mind, or some adverse effects. A lot buy it for the NA+A1 combo and swear by it. Oddly I haven't come around to try it out many times though I have both.

Yeah for sure, the whole point of A1 is to add it to a mix with other products. But I'm wondering how many people actually do this anymore because I see a number of people mentioning these other right off the shelf products that already have imprinting in them
Title: Re: A1 ponderings
Post by: Mr Highvalue on Mar 11, 2024, 07:17 PM
I have 1/4 of a pxs A1 bottle left at 20mcg per spray.

I usually use it as 3 sprays a time on it's own or with socials. It gets the ladies extremely comfortable and doing things for me that they wouldn't usually do with other guys.
Title: Re: A1 ponderings
Post by: kwow on Mar 14, 2024, 01:32 AM
Quote from: Mr Highvalue on Mar 11, 2024, 07:17 PMI have 1/4 of a pxs A1 bottle left at 20mcg per spray.

I usually use it as 3 sprays a time on it's own or with socials. It gets the ladies extremely comfortable and doing things for me that they wouldn't usually do with other guys.

At 60mcg total as a standalone huh? Interesting. What's your age and racial makeup? Do you OD on -none products easily?
Title: Re: A1 ponderings
Post by: Mr Highvalue on Mar 14, 2024, 05:49 PM
Quote from: kwow on Mar 14, 2024, 01:32 AM
Quote from: Mr Highvalue on Mar 11, 2024, 07:17 PMI have 1/4 of a pxs A1 bottle left at 20mcg per spray.

I usually use it as 3 sprays a time on it's own or with socials. It gets the ladies extremely comfortable and doing things for me that they wouldn't usually do with other guys.

At 60mcg total as a standalone huh? Interesting. What's your age and racial makeup? Do you OD on -none products easily?

No, I don't OD on anone products.

I'm 50 years old and can handle the anone products very well at higher doses. I feel they give me a real energy when I have them on, like I feel fearless with anone on me.

My family lineage goes back to Southern Europe and the mid east.
Title: Re: A1 ponderings
Post by: Johnny Fever on Mar 14, 2024, 06:31 PM
I do have a question: At what dose does A1 go from "enchanting" toward a female to deer in the headlights or other unexpected behavior? I've used 10mcg / 20 mcg A1 spray from PXS but favored Love Scent's oil, which is apparently pretty high dosage wise. I don't think I've observed odd behavior but only noted it "not working" and wondering if I'm missing something along the way.
Title: Re: A1 ponderings
Post by: Johnny Fever on Mar 15, 2024, 09:00 PM
BTW: Love Scent recently did a blog entry which may be of interest:

PHEROMONE SCIENCE: ANDROSTADIENONE AND FIRST IMPRESSIONS (https://blog.love-scent.com/2024/03/15/pheromone-science-androstadienone-first-impressions/)
Title: Re: A1 ponderings
Post by: kwow on Mar 19, 2024, 08:26 PM
Quote from: Johnny Fever on Mar 14, 2024, 06:31 PMI do have a question: At what dose does A1 go from "enchanting" toward a female to deer in the headlights or other unexpected behavior? I've used 10mcg / 20 mcg A1 spray from PXS but favored Love Scent's oil, which is apparently pretty high dosage wise. I don't think I've observed odd behavior but only noted it "not working" and wondering if I'm missing something along the way.

Wish I knew. I just know after 30mcg I move from intimidating to 'hey gurl heyyyyyy' in the eyes of my date. Only did that 5 times above 30mcg and results were consistent even with girls I had slept with previously. Like we had a first date, had sex. 2nd date and just kissed because we just wanted to grab some dinner together quickly. 3rd date to her apartment and sex all night. 4th date... 'I'm not sure we have sexual chemistry'

But then I wore Xist + Evolve on 5th date (friendship meet up) annndddddd we were back to having sex again.

5 different girls with the same experience. Only 1 of those girls I can't say whether I would have gotten her back on track or not because I didn't meet up with the 1st one again because I was still confused as to what happened.

That's why I was wondering about other people's experience with other companies and their A1. But HighValue just said it works great for him. So not really sure. Would love more people reporting on it though

Title: Re: A1 ponderings
Post by: kwow on Mar 19, 2024, 08:27 PM
You know what, I'm gonna run an experiment and wear 100mcg solo a few times and see what happens  ;D
Title: Re: A1 ponderings
Post by: Mr Highvalue on Mar 20, 2024, 03:26 AM
Quote from: kwow on Mar 19, 2024, 08:27 PMYou know what, I'm gonna run an experiment and wear 100mcg solo a few times and see what happens  ;D

Be sure to report back AND..... be careful! ;D
Title: Re: A1 ponderings
Post by: RussianWolf on Mar 20, 2024, 09:55 AM
Quote from: kwow on Mar 19, 2024, 08:27 PMYou know what, I'm gonna run an experiment and wear 100mcg solo a few times and see what happens  ;D

You'll experience fatigue and possibly depression if worn consecutively.
Title: Re: A1 ponderings
Post by: ebbnflow on Mar 20, 2024, 05:36 PM
Quote from: Johnny Fever on Mar 14, 2024, 06:31 PMI do have a question: At what dose does A1 go from "enchanting" toward a female to deer in the headlights or other unexpected behavior? I've used 10mcg / 20 mcg A1 spray from PXS but favored Love Scent's oil, which is apparently pretty high dosage wise. I don't think I've observed odd behavior but only noted it "not working" and wondering if I'm missing something along the way.

I just ordered A1 from PXS, but at only 5mcg per spray :(

I'm thinking maybe we need to add the Diffusion Technology for maximum results. From one review of DT on PXS: "Definitely makes a huge difference when adding to single molecules and Putatives!"

Title: Re: A1 ponderings
Post by: kwow on Mar 22, 2024, 12:56 AM
Quote from: RussianWolf on Mar 20, 2024, 09:55 AM
Quote from: kwow on Mar 19, 2024, 08:27 PMYou know what, I'm gonna run an experiment and wear 100mcg solo a few times and see what happens  ;D

You'll experience fatigue and possibly depression if worn consecutively.

Yeah I agree. Honestly this is why I use it sparingly. I remember having conversation with you on the old site when I was meeting up with the ex wearing this and jesus... it intensified the one-itis and really made me depressed. That was at only 40mcg. Just wore 100mcg with NAG and Voodoo, and all three of those products make me feel like shit the day after.

Quote from: Mr Highvalue on Mar 20, 2024, 03:26 AM
Quote from: kwow on Mar 19, 2024, 08:27 PMYou know what, I'm gonna run an experiment and wear 100mcg solo a few times and see what happens  ;D

Be sure to report back AND..... be careful! ;D

Unfortunately I didn't stick to my plan and ended up using a combo. But I DID use the 100mcg just to test.

Mix:
1/2 pump NAG
3 drops Voodoo
100mcg A1 (pxs)
3 sprays Glace (think 2017. But basically water for me)

Results:
Was more of a chilled family lime more than anything and we were also battling with some bad news. But surprisingly we had a pretty decent time just talking. I can't say anything was extraordinary, but maybe the conversation was a little bit more meaningful and really flowed very easily. /end

So not really much to report. The best thing is that I don't feel depressed right now and it's about 7 hours after application. Feel pretty upbeat.

Will update on that in the morning. Probably won't see action in a date setting until next week though

*EDIT*
Felt zero negative effects that I usually do the day after wearing those products. Was pretty upbeat all day surprisingly
Title: Re: A1 ponderings
Post by: kwow on Apr 22, 2024, 02:24 PM
Been using 100mcg of A1 once or twice a week. In combo with NAG and Voodoo. No lethargy. No depression.

This is in direct contrast to my old interactions with A1 at even 60mcg. The only difference I can say is I'm in a place in life where I've done a ton of work on myself over the years and happy with the person I am in majority of aspects of my life
Title: Re: A1 ponderings
Post by: Johnny Fever on Apr 22, 2024, 06:32 PM
Quote from: kwow on Apr 22, 2024, 02:24 PMBeen using 100mcg of A1 once or twice a week. In combo with NAG and Voodoo. No lethargy. No depression.

I had thought that too much A1 become "betafying" - have you noticed anything like this? My Love Scent A1 is supposed to equate out to about 60mcg/drop so I've been trying to dispense smaller drops. Back when I thought the dose per drop was about a half I used this on a target I have a great deal of interest with (along with NA and Glace). Knowing what I know now I wonder if the large quantity of A1 did something I wasn't looking to have happen.
Title: Re: A1 ponderings
Post by: kwow on Apr 26, 2024, 02:44 PM
Quote from: Johnny Fever on Apr 22, 2024, 06:32 PMI had thought that too much A1 become "betafying" - have you noticed anything like this?

I think this is accurate. As I mentioned earlier in this thread when doing high doses of A1 a few girls really loved spending time with me and staying out for 5-6 hours, wanting to see me again, saying how much fun it is. But then saying they weren't sure it was sexual (only ever happened while on high doses of A1)

Swapped out the A1 and just used either Evolve or Alfa Maschio and the next time we met up we slept together.

This new experiment is showing me so far that I'm not having the negative self effects with high doses, but wearing this often is doing the same as before in terms of the beta aura and self feel. At first it wasn't the case, but now it is. Whether I'm naturally adapting or the body is changing to the signature, who knows.

I'll experiment a little bit more for now, but I'm thinking this high a dose should be reserved for once every two months, or a month minimum. First date just to build that connection and that's it.

But if that's the case then it seems better to just use pxs Cohesion and be done with it.