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Title: P83
Post by: Dsouza on Apr 13, 2024, 09:44 AM
I have a bottle on the way!


Post p83 reviews here!
Title: Re: P83
Post by: Dsouza on Apr 14, 2024, 08:16 AM
How much do people really know about this molecule?   

I haven't read too many reviews on it, and I'm not sure how it's disinhibition works?  Verbally , through touch, Both, Sensory overload?  Too much has been said but nothing concerete.


Anyone use it for several years care to comment?
Title: Re: P83
Post by: Mr Highvalue on Apr 16, 2024, 04:29 AM
Quote from: Dsouza on Apr 14, 2024, 08:16 AMHow much do people really know about this molecule?   

I haven't read too many reviews on it, and I'm not sure how it's disinhibition works?  Verbally , through touch, Both, Sensory overload?  Too much has been said but nothing concerete.


Anyone use it for several years care to comment?


I had their p83 a quite a few years ago. For disinhibition to occur you'll need to dose above 50mcg. I used to use it at 3 sprays from a 25mcg per spray to go bottle they used to sell.

I was on a first date with a hot modelesque blonde woman in her mid twenties when I was in my mid 30s at the time. Right from the start she would tell me there is something different about you, and I feel I will lose it around you. Like within the first 3 minutes of the date. Anyway, She was asking me questions about myself that she presumed about me that I couldn't confirm with her. Later that evening she put her hand on my lap when driving her back to her place, and she invited me in. The first 10 minutes it was all hands on from her, I didn't initiate it was all her part. Then about another 10 minutes later my head was buried in her crotch and we went the full hog box and dice from there on the first date. She admitted to me later that night she doesn't normally lose it that soon with guys but had the feeling with me that she would not be able to control herself.

So yeah, both verbal and physical disinhibition I remember encountering. I still remember her words and out of the ordinary physical disinhibition on that date till today, it was 15 years ago now.
Title: Re: P83
Post by: Dsouza on Apr 16, 2024, 05:30 AM
Quote from: Mr Highvalue on Apr 16, 2024, 04:29 AM
Quote from: Dsouza on Apr 14, 2024, 08:16 AMHow much do people really know about this molecule?   

I haven't read too many reviews on it, and I'm not sure how it's disinhibition works?  Verbally , through touch, Both, Sensory overload?  Too much has been said but nothing concerete.


Anyone use it for several years care to comment?


I had their p83 a quite a few years ago. For disinhibition to occur you'll need to dose above 50mcg. I used to use it at 3 sprays from a 25mcg per spray to go bottle they used to sell.

I was on a first date with a hot modelesque blonde woman in her mid twenties when I was in my mid 30s at the time. Right from the start she would tell me there is something different about you, and I feel I will lose it around you. Like within the first 3 minutes of the date. Anyway, She was asking me questions about myself that she presumed about me that I couldn't confirm with her. Later that evening she put her hand on my lap when driving her back to her place, and she invited me in. The first 10 minutes it was all hands on from her, I didn't initiate it was all her part. Then about another 10 minutes later my head was buried in her crotch and we went the full hog box and dice from there on the first date. She admitted to me later that night she doesn't normally lose it that soon with guys but had the feeling with me that she would not be able to control herself.

So yeah, both verbal and physical disinhibition I remember encountering. I still remember her words and out of the ordinary physical disinhibition on that date till today, it was 15 years ago now.

Beautiful fond memories of ONS!  I have those memories too.

Tell me did p83 usually pull blonde haired women?
Title: Re: P83
Post by: Tzar on Apr 16, 2024, 09:24 AM
Quote from: Mr Highvalue on Apr 16, 2024, 04:29 AMFor disinhibition to occur you'll need to dose above 50mcg. I used to use it at 3 sprays from a 25mcg per spray to go bottle they used to sell.

Hi, if one is looking to disinhibit himself would the lowest concentation of 2mcg per spray be enough spraying it on the mustache? Or 12.5 mcg?
Title: Re: P83
Post by: Mr Highvalue on Apr 16, 2024, 09:26 AM
Dsouza

Coming to think of it now, I may have also been wearing 2 drops of A314 along with it as well. But I can't imagine A314 did the disinhibition from her.

It had also worked on an young English brunette lass too. Also a first date lay. With her it was nothing else but 100mcg of P83.

Saw the blonde 5 times after our first encounter each time it ended up in sleeping with her after a night out. The same story with the brunette, but only saw her 3 times in total. Those were the days. I was younger and casual sex was a thing I loved getting from girls I met who were up for it.
Title: Re: P83
Post by: Mr Highvalue on Apr 16, 2024, 09:30 AM
Quote from: tzar on Apr 16, 2024, 09:24 AM
Quote from: Mr Highvalue on Apr 16, 2024, 04:29 AMFor disinhibition to occur you'll need to dose above 50mcg. I used to use it at 3 sprays from a 25mcg per spray to go bottle they used to sell.

Hi, if one is looking to disinhibit himself would the lowest concentation of 2mcg per spray be enough spraying it on the mustache? Or 12.5 mcg?


You'll need a lot more than that. At least up to about 45mcg before you start getting some real noticeable effects.
Title: Re: P83
Post by: SigmaWolf on Apr 16, 2024, 11:09 AM
Quote from: Mr Highvalue on Apr 16, 2024, 04:29 AM
Quote from: Dsouza on Apr 14, 2024, 08:16 AMHow much do people really know about this molecule?   

I haven't read too many reviews on it, and I'm not sure how it's disinhibition works?  Verbally , through touch, Both, Sensory overload?  Too much has been said but nothing concerete.


Anyone use it for several years care to comment?


I had their p83 a quite a few years ago. For disinhibition to occur you'll need to dose above 50mcg. I used to use it at 3 sprays from a 25mcg per spray to go bottle they used to sell.

I was on a first date with a hot modelesque blonde woman in her mid twenties when I was in my mid 30s at the time. Right from the start she would tell me there is something different about you, and I feel I will lose it around you. Like within the first 3 minutes of the date. Anyway, She was asking me questions about myself that she presumed about me that I couldn't confirm with her. Later that evening she put her hand on my lap when driving her back to her place, and she invited me in. The first 10 minutes it was all hands on from her, I didn't initiate it was all her part. Then about another 10 minutes later my head was buried in her crotch and we went the full hog box and dice from there on the first date. She admitted to me later that night she doesn't normally lose it that soon with guys but had the feeling with me that she would not be able to control herself.

So yeah, both verbal and physical disinhibition I remember encountering. I still remember her words and out of the ordinary physical disinhibition on that date till today, it was 15 years ago now.

This is very good info. Mr high Value, I plan to get P83 as well. I wonder if this 50mg dose is Asian friendly , I wanted to buy the lowest dose for try out until I questioned again after seeing your comments on >/50mg
Title: Re: P83
Post by: greedware on Apr 16, 2024, 04:59 PM
I see in the old spreadsheet that Beta-THDOC is a disinhibitor, too.  (in Love Boat and Exotica XS)  Googling around, there's claims it works on GABA (anxiety reduction, like benzos)

How does P83 compare?
Title: Re: P83
Post by: Mr Highvalue on Apr 16, 2024, 07:01 PM
Quote from: SigmaWolf on Apr 16, 2024, 11:09 AM
Quote from: Mr Highvalue on Apr 16, 2024, 04:29 AM
Quote from: Dsouza on Apr 14, 2024, 08:16 AMHow much do people really know about this molecule?   

I haven't read too many reviews on it, and I'm not sure how it's disinhibition works?  Verbally , through touch, Both, Sensory overload?  Too much has been said but nothing concerete.


Anyone use it for several years care to comment?


I had their p83 a quite a few years ago. For disinhibition to occur you'll need to dose above 50mcg. I used to use it at 3 sprays from a 25mcg per spray to go bottle they used to sell.

I was on a first date with a hot modelesque blonde woman in her mid twenties when I was in my mid 30s at the time. Right from the start she would tell me there is something different about you, and I feel I will lose it around you. Like within the first 3 minutes of the date. Anyway, She was asking me questions about myself that she presumed about me that I couldn't confirm with her. Later that evening she put her hand on my lap when driving her back to her place, and she invited me in. The first 10 minutes it was all hands on from her, I didn't initiate it was all her part. Then about another 10 minutes later my head was buried in her crotch and we went the full hog box and dice from there on the first date. She admitted to me later that night she doesn't normally lose it that soon with guys but had the feeling with me that she would not be able to control herself.

So yeah, both verbal and physical disinhibition I remember encountering. I still remember her words and out of the ordinary physical disinhibition on that date till today, it was 15 years ago now.

This is very good info. Mr high Value, I plan to get P83 as well. I wonder if this 50mg dose is Asian friendly , I wanted to buy the lowest dose for try out until I questioned again after seeing your comments on >/50mg

Yes, works much better and is less intimidating than Androstenone on the Asian ladies. There is no anone intimidation and may indeed do the trick with getting a more shy and quiet Asian lady to open up to you.
Title: Re: P83
Post by: Mr Highvalue on Apr 16, 2024, 07:02 PM
Quote from: greedware on Apr 16, 2024, 04:59 PMI see in the old spreadsheet that Beta-THDOC is a disinhibitor, too.  (in Love Boat and Exotica XS)  Googling around, there's claims it works on GABA (anxiety reduction, like benzos)

How does P83 compare?

I believe P83 is Beta-Thdoc. If not exactly it, then P83 is certainly derived from it.
Title: Re: P83
Post by: Mr Highvalue on Apr 16, 2024, 07:10 PM
Quote from: SigmaWolf on Apr 16, 2024, 11:09 AM
Quote from: Mr Highvalue on Apr 16, 2024, 04:29 AM
Quote from: Dsouza on Apr 14, 2024, 08:16 AMHow much do people really know about this molecule?   

I haven't read too many reviews on it, and I'm not sure how it's disinhibition works?  Verbally , through touch, Both, Sensory overload?  Too much has been said but nothing concerete.


Anyone use it for several years care to comment?


I had their p83 a quite a few years ago. For disinhibition to occur you'll need to dose above 50mcg. I used to use it at 3 sprays from a 25mcg per spray to go bottle they used to sell.

I was on a first date with a hot modelesque blonde woman in her mid twenties when I was in my mid 30s at the time. Right from the start she would tell me there is something different about you, and I feel I will lose it around you. Like within the first 3 minutes of the date. Anyway, She was asking me questions about myself that she presumed about me that I couldn't confirm with her. Later that evening she put her hand on my lap when driving her back to her place, and she invited me in. The first 10 minutes it was all hands on from her, I didn't initiate it was all her part. Then about another 10 minutes later my head was buried in her crotch and we went the full hog box and dice from there on the first date. She admitted to me later that night she doesn't normally lose it that soon with guys but had the feeling with me that she would not be able to control herself.

So yeah, both verbal and physical disinhibition I remember encountering. I still remember her words and out of the ordinary physical disinhibition on that date till today, it was 15 years ago now.

This is very good info. Mr high Value, I plan to get P83 as well. I wonder if this 50mg dose is Asian friendly , I wanted to buy the lowest dose for try out until I questioned again after seeing your comments on >/50mg

Oh, One more thing.

Don't get 50mg and 50mcg confused, they are two very different measurements. Mg is the total amount per bottle, mcg is the total amount per spray out of the bottle.
Title: Re: P83
Post by: Dsouza on Apr 17, 2024, 04:18 AM
April 16, 2024

Yesterday the 16th, I had used 1 spray of p83 in the evening.  I could only test for selfies and on my SO since I broke my leg.

I used 12.5 mcg.

I could not tell much in selfies.  My SO put her arms and cuddled beside me for a bit but she always does that before sleeping.

I don't feel p83 did anything for me.. Maybe I should try it earlier in the day.  Or in a mix.

I do feel VERY tired today.  Like I can barely get out of bed.  I'm never this sleepy.

Any comments why?
Title: Re: P83
Post by: Mr Highvalue on Apr 17, 2024, 04:51 PM
Quote from: Dsouza on Apr 17, 2024, 04:18 AMApril 16, 2024

Yesterday the 16th, I had used 1 spray of p83 in the evening.  I could only test for selfies and on my SO since I broke my leg.

I used 12.5 mcg.

I could not tell much in selfies.  My SO put her arms and cuddled beside me for a bit but she always does that before sleeping.

I don't feel p83 did anything for me.. Maybe I should try it earlier in the day.  Or in a mix.

I do feel VERY tired today.  Like I can barely get out of bed.  I'm never this sleepy.

Any comments why?


I think you may need to go with a higher dosage for the effects you're looking to see out of it. 12.5mcg of P83 isn't a very lot for the effect of disinhibition.

I have felt tired at times after using certain types of mones. I can't remember if I got that tiredness effect with P83 though, it's been quite a few years since I've used it.
Title: Re: P83
Post by: Wyatt on Oct 07, 2024, 11:01 PM
I still have a bottle and a half of p83...

I should wear it more in the future. But it was one of my first mones I used to wear back when I really got into mones when I first moved to Japan. (Pherone I think it was called X11 was my first phero and it was actually really good juice. I'd say it was a mix of rone, none and a hefty bit of A1, maybe some alpha & beta sterol, too, but that was way back in 2003-2008)

P83 usually lead to some crazy nights, but my game sucked back then, and the negatives from wearing it far outweighed the positives, so I became gun shy when it came to reaching for it. (Now I'll open 150-500 women in a night and politely shoot most of them down, back when I bought it, just approaching a woman once a week was a nightmare).

Will test it again next summer and report back. (I focus on other things the rest of the year).
Title: Re: P83
Post by: He-Mone on Oct 08, 2024, 10:28 AM
Quote from: Wyatt on Oct 07, 2024, 11:01 PMI still have a bottle and a half of p83...

I should wear it more in the future. But it was one of my first mones I used to wear back when I really got into mones when I first moved to Japan. (Pherone I think it was called X11 was my first phero and it was actually really good juice. I'd say it was a mix of rone, none and a hefty bit of A1, maybe some alpha & beta sterol, too, but that was way back in 2003-2008)

P83 usually lead to some crazy nights, but my game sucked back then, and the negatives from wearing it far outweighed the positives, so I became gun shy when it came to reaching for it. (Now I'll open 150-500 women in a night and politely shoot most of them down, back when I bought it, just approaching a woman once a week was a nightmare).

Will test it again next summer and report back. (I focus on other things the rest of the year).

What negatives were you experiencing from p83? More uninhibited rejections?
Title: Re: P83
Post by: Wyatt on Oct 09, 2024, 01:21 AM
lol! This! This!

Never really thought of it as that till now 🤣🤣🤣


My game's much better now, had four multiple girlfriends openly (Fridays were fun with three back to back women, mornings, noons and nights, with only the noon girlfriend aware of the other 2 coming over (making the bed etc.) far more times than I can count), but back then my game sucked, and your insights are likely spot on.


Will break out the P83 next summer.
Title: Re: P83
Post by: Arrow on May 07, 2025, 04:03 PM
I just got P83 and it seems to be great stuff. I experimented with it alone and discovered it has a fantastic scent.
I also discovered that it goes well with other mone product combos for an added boost and attention grabber.
P83 is proving to be a winner so far for me.