so when people talk of core, soe, hypnotica, orbital,nude swoon etc.,is it making the women feel more social towards You? or also making You feel like socializing and courageous enough to approach her? SOE made me a chatterbox but in an incoherent way, Core did nothing. IO, nothing. Instant Shine Ammo was the one mix that helped me with this. R the social sexuals better at helping you open than pure socials?
Unfortunately, I think people react to these products differently, especially with self-effects.
I've seen posts claiming this or that makes the wearer more socially confident, then I tried it and it did nothing for me.
After going through a bunch of things, I've found the socials do jack shit for me selfie-wise - I've tried Glace, HS, Nude, Connect, Mascot.
(for me, I've felt more self-confident on Wolf, SXD-9 and Love Boat. Not saying those will work for you)
I don't think you need self-effects either to feel more self-confident. If you find a product that hits your targets hard before you say anything, that can really boost your desire to talk to her, she's handing herself to you on a platter. (But so far, the social sexuals have been duds for me, too)
XS has a custom blend, XS121, that is made to help men approach women, though I've not used it.
wow that is ineteresting. androtics claim the same with p130. is it the same juice i wonder? i think there are a lot of mone users just as interested in self effects as effects on others. i guess you throw a bunch of social molecules together dhea, dheas, taa, anol etc.
There's nothing.
Just like all the PUA techniques in the world as useless if you feel fear during an approach.
For shy guys closest thing is what we used to do in our 20's. A couple shots or a couple beers. Then approach.
There is something called social anxiety and I believe mindful meditation, can relax the heart and mind and make you more centered in the moment so you're not feeling all those insecurities.
Bad Wolf will help you. Garry designed it to push you out of your comfort zone.
Quote from: Dsouza on May 01, 2024, 01:04 PMThere's nothing.
Just like all the PUA techniques in the world as useless if you feel fear during an approach.
For shy guys closest thing is what we used to do in our 20's. A couple shots or a couple beers. Then approach.
There is something called social anxiety and I believe mindful meditation, can relax the heart and mind and make you more centered in the moment so you're not feeling all those insecurities.
That's inaccurate. Sure, classic PUA stuff does require you a degree of congruence -> conveying the image of 'that social guy'. So a shy guy would not benefit from those as they will come in friction with his behavior/what he's projecting. With that I will mention two additional things about this.
1) There are Pick up methods / systems that are designed for introverts and shy people.
2) A lot of the time, I see in real life firsthand from either people who got into seduction by themselves, or in the people I taught myself (I don't claim myself as a pua coach), you can actually learn the system, be shy, and mess a lot of shit up and still get much better results than you currently have. It might not be that consistent or effective, but hey girls gave that shy awkward guy a chance, and I've seen some people get a gf like that. Learned a system, messed up the system, but that one cute girl liked their approach anyway.
Quote from: TracerX on May 01, 2024, 01:51 PMBad Wolf will help you. Garry designed it to push you out of your comfort zone.
Quote from: Dsouza on May 01, 2024, 01:04 PMThere's nothing.
Just like all the PUA techniques in the world as useless if you feel fear during an approach.
For shy guys closest thing is what we used to do in our 20's. A couple shots or a couple beers. Then approach.
There is something called social anxiety and I believe mindful meditation, can relax the heart and mind and make you more centered in the moment so you're not feeling all those insecurities.
That's inaccurate. Sure, classic PUA stuff does require you a degree of congruence -> conveying the image of 'that social guy'. So a shy guy would not benefit from those as they will come in friction with his behavior/what he's projecting. With that I will mention two additional things about this.
1) There are Pick up methods / systems that are designed for introverts and shy people.
2) A lot of the time, I see in real life firsthand from either people who got into seduction by themselves, or in the people I taught myself (I don't claim myself as a pua coach), you can actually learn the system, be shy, and mess a lot of shit up and still get much better results than you currently have. It might not be that consistent or effective, but hey girls gave that shy awkward guy a chance, and I've seen some people get a gf like that. Learned a system, messed up the system, but that one cute girl liked their approach anyway.
SS does a good job of teaching meditation before approach. RJ concurs if you have crippling social anxiety no tehcniques will work for you.
If you're deathly scared of driving on the highway it doesn't matter if you know how a car operates.
Women can sense hesitation in a man even before he approaches.
This is why for introverts aside from mediation I would recommend a good product like CAS which calms and relaxes you and makes it fairly easy to talk to women without chances of facing a harsh rejection.
Even AV seems to do that for me. When I wear AV I feel my minds operating faster , I think more seductively, and I'm more bold.
Also being out of the game doesn't help anyone. The longer you're out of the game the harder pickup becomes. One's got to keep the blade sharp.
Quote from: Dsouza on May 01, 2024, 01:59 PMQuote from: TracerX on May 01, 2024, 01:51 PMBad Wolf will help you. Garry designed it to push you out of your comfort zone.
Quote from: Dsouza on May 01, 2024, 01:04 PMThere's nothing.
Just like all the PUA techniques in the world as useless if you feel fear during an approach.
For shy guys closest thing is what we used to do in our 20's. A couple shots or a couple beers. Then approach.
There is something called social anxiety and I believe mindful meditation, can relax the heart and mind and make you more centered in the moment so you're not feeling all those insecurities.
That's inaccurate. Sure, classic PUA stuff does require you a degree of congruence -> conveying the image of 'that social guy'. So a shy guy would not benefit from those as they will come in friction with his behavior/what he's projecting. With that I will mention two additional things about this.
1) There are Pick up methods / systems that are designed for introverts and shy people.
2) A lot of the time, I see in real life firsthand from either people who got into seduction by themselves, or in the people I taught myself (I don't claim myself as a pua coach), you can actually learn the system, be shy, and mess a lot of shit up and still get much better results than you currently have. It might not be that consistent or effective, but hey girls gave that shy awkward guy a chance, and I've seen some people get a gf like that. Learned a system, messed up the system, but that one cute girl liked their approach anyway.
SS does a good job of teaching meditation before approach. RJ concurs if you have crippling social anxiety no tehcniques will work for you.
If you're deathly scared of driving on the highway it doesn't matter if you know how a car operates.
Women can sense hesitation in a man even before he approaches.
This is why for introverts aside from mediation I would recommend a good product like CAS which calms and relaxes you and makes it fairly easy to talk to women without chances of facing a harsh rejection.
Even AV seems to do that for me. When I wear AV I feel my minds operating faster , I think more seductively, and I'm more bold.
Also being out of the game doesn't help anyone. The longer you're out of the game the harder pickup becomes. One's got to keep the blade sharp.
I don't think Cas help you overcome AA. You can also learn to snoop out the women who are 'already interested in you'. Then you can be 100% you won't get a rejection. Even a shy guy can work with that, I have sent you some material about that if you've read that message.
But I agree that it's much more convenient to work and ditch the shyness. But I just say, not all is lost if you're struggling.
Honestly, if one is so scared they can't even say hi to women buy yourself a cute puppy and walk it everyday.
Count how many hot women open you, talk to you about your pet and keep the conversation going!
Quote from: mahalo silver on Apr 30, 2024, 10:50 PMwow that is ineteresting. androtics claim the same with p130. is it the same juice i wonder? i think there are a lot of mone users just as interested in self effects as effects on others. i guess you throw a bunch of social molecules together dhea, dheas, taa, anol etc.
XS has XSP130 which should be the same as Androtics' P130.
They call XS121 "Approach Confidence /M." Looks like it's a blend of 7 molecules, so maybe it has some P130 in it.
Quote from: TracerX on May 01, 2024, 02:39 PMAA. You can also learn to snoop out the women who are 'already interested in you'. Then you can be 100% you won't get a rejection. Even a shy guy can work with that, I have sent you some material about that if you've read that message.
Hi, would you send that material to me too, please!
I believe that many people are interested in this material, me too :)
I somehow start to think a lot of people here enjoy chasing girls rather than getting results. So I'm not too sure, I've sent you guys what I've sent Dsouza.
Quote from: TracerX on May 04, 2024, 06:21 AMI somehow start to think a lot of people here enjoy chasing girls rather than getting results. So I'm not too sure, I've sent you guys what I've sent Dsouza.
Also interested in this info, this is where I kinda get stuck every once in a while. Is it in a pdf format or on video?
@Phero_SA I am sending you the pdf versions of books TracerX showed me.
Thanks Tzar, guys just remember not to upload pirated content to PT. As long as there's no weird pirated copy uploaded here, all is good.
hi Tzar or tracer x, i would be interested in this material too, thanks.
Hi, Im sending them.
Guys, if someone else is interested write me directly to PM, not here, not to derail the thread too much. I offer this so we not all bothering TracerX. He was kind enough to send them to me.
Quote from: TracerX on May 01, 2024, 01:51 PMBut I agree that it's much more convenient to work and ditch the shyness. But I just say, not all is lost if you're struggling.
Honestly, other than bad wolf, Lifting weights will help. Lift for 6-9 months, （you won't stop after this, you'll just start seeing results)
Start dressing well after that (your body should look a lot better) and you won't need to not be shy, the women will end that for you.
Quote from: TracerX on May 04, 2024, 06:21 AMI somehow start to think a lot of people here enjoy chasing girls rather than getting results. So I'm not too sure, I've sent you guys what I've sent Dsouza.
Heh, from what I've talked with you about before...hahah you're spot on lmao.
its about chasing the Validation from a female, so the end game is actually the ego stroking, not bedding women.
well.....I can't really help there lmao
Wear mones that make women open you and have more social effects.
Has anyone tried XS121 AC?
I am considering trying it out but want to make sure it's got real merit.
Also if you used it with success , did it also work with combos? If so , which mones and what dosages?
Only people who've actually used AC. We all know in "theory" what it is supposed to do.
Steve advertises it as the ability to say HI to any hot woman in a bar. I've said HI to women all my life and that alone is not going get them into my bed.
I'm wondering what exactly this blend does that leads it towards seduction and getting laid after the approach?
I mean saying hi to hundreds of hot women and leaving it at that is the definition of INSANITY.
People buy AC because they assume fear of approach so it makes sense if you're afraid to approach you'd be shivering leading things to the bedroom.
So if AC makes you fearless to approach does it also have qualities that help you fearlessly lead things to the bedroom?
I'm very interested in it but need to know more. Discuss.