I am 24 years old and completely new to the game. I'll start uploading single reviews. If you all wish to scold me, laugh with me or give me advices you are welcome. Meanwhile a quick summary of my funny first experiences. I started in summer after I broke up with my girlfriend.
I bought DIRTY PRIMITIVE through Aroma Fero by LAL. I used to bathe in it. I'm talking more than 10 drops of oil two or free times. My house was overwhelmed with the smell of copulins. 🤭 I was a stinky mess yet learned a lot. I learnt to dial down. Results were positive by women, I seemed to go unnoticed less often. Very negative by males: more than one male friend told me I smelled of cat piss. Women were much more interested in me and sometimes I could feel a more sexual vibe to the interaction, with many glances and such. Doesn't seem to last long.
VODOO: got approached and got women talkative, a family member of mine had a dream-nightmare of me that i think is related. When I don't wash it off I 100% have nightmares while sleeping that may or may not have romantic undertones. Sweeter in smell, never got bad comments. (2-5 drops).
BAD WOLF: some friends said to me I was masculine, tough, had leadership, sex appeal and found me to be unusually "fit" or "well groomed" even though I am slightly overweight. Others seemed not to notice at all. Acqua Vitae: don't know if I got a faulty package but I literally got no result at varying doses.
AlPHA Q: my experience seems to be very different from the wild enthusiasm I encountered that led me to buy. S1ck Shop got my product to Europe in more than a month. It seems to be very very hit or miss relating to me.
Today I got through FedEx a PheromoneXS package. The package was filled with surprises: from food to phero-samples in addition that I did not order and a handwritten letter to thank for buying. It arrived in Europe in a couple of days sealed and encrypted. Superb efficiency. I would love to thank Steve in a way or another. I tried out SOB + XIST combo in average doses and for a good half an hour a female friend of mine stated it was similar to when I used DIRTY PRIMITIVE, curiously enough. She stated the smell was intense and kept laughing at my jokes in a slightly more than ordinary way.
Welcome aboard sir. It is really fun to experiment with these stuff but it is also really hard to dose and get them right but when you do, it is undeniable. The only phero that I have used which didn't have very obvious effects was The Hookup and aside from that everything worked to a certain degree. I suggest learning each of them individually and then maybe creating combos for different scenarios. After a while it becomes really really fun.
Thank you for the suggestions. I just released my first reviews for DP, Voodoo and SOB.
I don't want to start another thread about a newbie, but I hope Highlander doesn't mind. Maybe someone will read this and help. I'm also new to this topic. I wanted to ask for advice in two situations.
1) I need to win over a woman (or maybe several women), aged 35-40. I need a sense of complete trust, a positive attitude, and possibly some infatuation. Sex is optional, but I wouldn't refuse if it works. I'll have about a week while we work on the archive together. She's higher up my career ladder and although she treats me well (I can say we're friends in a way), I've learned that even though we're friends, not only doesn't she contribute to my advancement, but she sometimes hinders it, indirectly.
2) I need to rebuild my relationship with my wife of 36 years. We had a huge fight an hour ago, and she left for her mother's. The thing is, our relationship has recently become something like brother-sister, or friend-zoned, if you will. Hell, friend-zoned after 8 years. So, no cheating, I checked, she doesn't seem to want to leave, and I don't want to ruin the marriage. But there's no passion, and there hasn't been sex for a long time. (After reading forums and some articles, I realized she's gotten used to my pheromones and her brain views me as a close relative, not a man.) So, I need the effect of falling in love, as well as the liberation for hot and wild sex.
I have a limited time to order—just a week before my business trip, where I'll meet my mean boss (she's actually nice to me, almost friendly, but it's like some kind of wall and she constantly undermines my career advancement). I can order with weekly delivery only from Aromafero.
After two weeks of searching through various resources, including this one, I chose:
1 - Grail of Affection sample - pheromone oil 6.1 ml,
2 - Pure pheromone concentrate "Beta-androsterone" 10 ml,
3 - Pure pheromone concentrate "F" 10 ml,
4 - Zero to 69 - pheromone spray 10 ml | Treasures of Pheromones
I also became interested in:
- Dirty Primitive,
- Aqua Vitae (although reviews are controversial; some say it's more sexually charged than Nude)
- Androstadienone (I understand it's more of a love-inducing product than Androsterone)
- Nude Alpha plus Androstadienon
Post script: Unfortunately, my situation doesn't allow me to buy a lot, and I think it would be easier to hide a couple of bottles from my wife at home than dozens of oils. I'm counting on 3-4 units for 150-200 euros. I also need something unscented, since everyone knows I only use my two favorite perfumes.
Also, in the first case, I'd like to avoid anything aggressive, so as not to provoke men to be aggressive towards me.
But in the second case—with my wife—I'll only be using it at home, at least at first, so I might consider something with alpha, but not too strong.
@feroferero - In your particular case, I'd recommend either Xist oil or APi oil unscented
Quote from: Mr Highvalue on Dec 22, 2025, 12:35 AM@feroferero - In your particular case, I'd recommend either Xist oil or APi oil unscented
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Hi. Thanks for the reply. Unfortunately, Xist isn't available in Europe, and as I said, I'm a bit limited in time before I start using it—about a week. It won't have time to arrive from the States, and the taxes on parcels are too high right now. Plus, from what I've read about Xist, it works well on women under 30; 35-40 is more vague and unpredictable. I still haven't fully grasped all the abbreviations. What do they mean by "APi oil"? Anyway, thanks for the advice. I'll try Xist in the future if I get the chance.
I've currently chosen 4 items for myself:
-0-69 (but I'm still unsure, as I've only had 2-3 successful uses out of the total, so I might switch to Alpha Treasures or Nude)
-Androstadienone
-Dirty primitive
-Punisher perfume
Use AscendXS or Captain
Quote from: Artist Sam1 on Dec 22, 2025, 05:42 AMUse AscendXS or Captain
Thank you. AscendXS is also only from the States, but I'll add it to my future purchases. And Captain—I was thinking about it too. In any case, I'll probably get the 6ml tester, although I think Alpha Treasures is softer and more versatile (based on the descriptions and reviews).
Why I watch less alphas is because I want to gently win over my boss's woman, and then, after some time has passed and the wall is broken, I can consolidate the result with one of the alpha options. Because she's a headstrong woman and might block me due to alpha aggression.
Quote from: feroferero on Dec 21, 2025, 07:03 PMI don't want to start another thread about a newbie, but I hope Highlander doesn't mind. Maybe someone will read this and help. I'm also new to this topic. I wanted to ask for advice in two situations.
1) I need to win over a woman (or maybe several women), aged 35-40. I need a sense of complete trust, a positive attitude, and possibly some infatuation. Sex is optional, but I wouldn't refuse if it works. I'll have about a week while we work on the archive together. She's higher up my career ladder and although she treats me well (I can say we're friends in a way), I've learned that even though we're friends, not only doesn't she contribute to my advancement, but she sometimes hinders it, indirectly.
2) I need to rebuild my relationship with my wife of 36 years. We had a huge fight an hour ago, and she left for her mother's. The thing is, our relationship has recently become something like brother-sister, or friend-zoned, if you will. Hell, friend-zoned after 8 years. So, no cheating, I checked, she doesn't seem to want to leave, and I don't want to ruin the marriage. But there's no passion, and there hasn't been sex for a long time. (After reading forums and some articles, I realized she's gotten used to my pheromones and her brain views me as a close relative, not a man.) So, I need the effect of falling in love, as well as the liberation for hot and wild sex.
I have a limited time to order—just a week before my business trip, where I'll meet my mean boss (she's actually nice to me, almost friendly, but it's like some kind of wall and she constantly undermines my career advancement). I can order with weekly delivery only from Aromafero.
After two weeks of searching through various resources, including this one, I chose:
1 - Grail of Affection sample - pheromone oil 6.1 ml,
2 - Pure pheromone concentrate "Beta-androsterone" 10 ml,
3 - Pure pheromone concentrate "F" 10 ml,
4 - Zero to 69 - pheromone spray 10 ml | Treasures of Pheromones
I also became interested in:
- Dirty Primitive,
- Aqua Vitae (although reviews are controversial; some say it's more sexually charged than Nude)
- Androstadienone (I understand it's more of a love-inducing product than Androsterone)
- Nude Alpha plus Androstadienon
Post script: Unfortunately, my situation doesn't allow me to buy a lot, and I think it would be easier to hide a couple of bottles from my wife at home than dozens of oils. I'm counting on 3-4 units for 150-200 euros. I also need something unscented, since everyone knows I only use my two favorite perfumes.
Also, in the first case, I'd like to avoid anything aggressive, so as not to provoke men to be aggressive towards me.
But in the second case—with my wife—I'll only be using it at home, at least at first, so I might consider something with alpha, but not too strong.
You'll create problems using pheromones with your wife unless you adopt a new behavioral pattern that matches the pheromone you're using.
You can't project being an alpha male with the same attitudes; that will create chaos in your home.
Users of pheromones don't understand that the signature needs to match the behavior. You can't project a super-alpha signature and treat your wife like a beta male; she'll feel threatened.
How would a super-alpha male treat a woman? That's how you should treat them while using a super-alpha pheromone.
Attitudes need to match your signature; otherwise, the person will feel repulsed. Believe me.
Be careful.
My hormonal balance is disrupted due to the surgery and hormone therapy I underwent three years ago. So I understand the reasons for the changes in our relationship, and also why I decided to correct the situation with pheromones.
Of course, if I had taken a sweat sample before the surgery, I could have mixed my own personal perfume and pure hormones if I knew the exact proportions, but alas, no one does that.
I'm gradually restoring my balance with fadogia, turkesterone, and beta-ecdyserone, supplemented with yohi, but this restoration is very slow; in my 20s or 25s, everything would have been much simpler.
Yes, another option is to start testosterone injections, and my body will automatically mix what should be in my armpits. But! Taking testosterone injections is fraught with infertility, and afterwards, I'll still have to restore my hormonal balance after exogenous testosterone injections (and I want another child).
Therefore, due to the long recovery, I will lose my family and job before I recover. That's why I decided to turn to pheromones. It was a completely conscious and deliberate step.
Anyway, thank you for your post and the warning. It would have saved me from making rash decisions if I'd made rash decisions myself.
You're cooking interesting cookies here and people have given you some good recommendations and tips.
Perhaps change your own attitude towards the situations you're facing atm, it sounds dumb but sometimes a change in attitude/behavior towards something or someone is all you need.
I also say APi and Xist but Evolve oil (for your wife) could be an option but you're on the clock. I definitely think Xist is what you're looking for though.
Wish you the best brother.
I completely agree that the problem can look different depending on your perspective. Can I ask what "APi" means? I still haven't found it? Regarding XIST, several people have recommended it, and after reading up on it, I've decided to order it, possibly along with Evolve. Even if I don't get it this time, it'll be there next time. Anyway, thanks for your help.
Quote from: feroferero on Dec 22, 2025, 10:56 AMMy hormonal balance is disrupted due to the surgery and hormone therapy I underwent three years ago. So I understand the reasons for the changes in our relationship, and also why I decided to correct the situation with pheromones.
Of course, if I had taken a sweat sample before the surgery, I could have mixed my own personal perfume and pure hormones if I knew the exact proportions, but alas, no one does that.
I'm gradually restoring my balance with fadogia, turkesterone, and beta-ecdyserone, supplemented with yohi, but this restoration is very slow; in my 20s or 25s, everything would have been much simpler.
Yes, another option is to start testosterone injections, and my body will automatically mix what should be in my armpits. But! Taking testosterone injections is fraught with infertility, and afterwards, I'll still have to restore my hormonal balance after exogenous testosterone injections (and I want another child).
Therefore, due to the long recovery, I will lose my family and job before I recover. That's why I decided to turn to pheromones. It was a completely conscious and deliberate step.
Anyway, thank you for your post and the warning. It would have saved me from making rash decisions if I'd made rash decisions myself.
The best thing you can do to improve yourself in every way is fasting, fasting only with water. Do some fasts of 3 days (72 hours) or more. This is the best thing you can do for yourself. Fasting improves a person; the more you fast, the more you feel the difference.
Quote from: feroferero on Dec 21, 2025, 07:03 PMI don't want to start another thread about a newbie, but I hope Highlander doesn't mind. Maybe someone will read this and help. I'm also new to this topic. I wanted to ask for advice in two situations.
1) I need to win over a woman (or maybe several women), aged 35-40. I need a sense of complete trust, a positive attitude, and possibly some infatuation. Sex is optional, but I wouldn't refuse if it works. I'll have about a week while we work on the archive together. She's higher up my career ladder and although she treats me well (I can say we're friends in a way), I've learned that even though we're friends, not only doesn't she contribute to my advancement, but she sometimes hinders it, indirectly.
2) I need to rebuild my relationship with my wife of 36 years. We had a huge fight an hour ago, and she left for her mother's. The thing is, our relationship has recently become something like brother-sister, or friend-zoned, if you will. Hell, friend-zoned after 8 years. So, no cheating, I checked, she doesn't seem to want to leave, and I don't want to ruin the marriage. But there's no passion, and there hasn't been sex for a long time. (After reading forums and some articles, I realized she's gotten used to my pheromones and her brain views me as a close relative, not a man.) So, I need the effect of falling in love, as well as the liberation for hot and wild sex.
I have a limited time to order—just a week before my business trip, where I'll meet my mean boss (she's actually nice to me, almost friendly, but it's like some kind of wall and she constantly undermines my career advancement). I can order with weekly delivery only from Aromafero.
After two weeks of searching through various resources, including this one, I chose:
1 - Grail of Affection sample - pheromone oil 6.1 ml,
2 - Pure pheromone concentrate "Beta-androsterone" 10 ml,
3 - Pure pheromone concentrate "F" 10 ml,
4 - Zero to 69 - pheromone spray 10 ml | Treasures of Pheromones
I also became interested in:
- Dirty Primitive,
- Aqua Vitae (although reviews are controversial; some say it's more sexually charged than Nude)
- Androstadienone (I understand it's more of a love-inducing product than Androsterone)
- Nude Alpha plus Androstadienon
Post script: Unfortunately, my situation doesn't allow me to buy a lot, and I think it would be easier to hide a couple of bottles from my wife at home than dozens of oils. I'm counting on 3-4 units for 150-200 euros. I also need something unscented, since everyone knows I only use my two favorite perfumes.
Also, in the first case, I'd like to avoid anything aggressive, so as not to provoke men to be aggressive towards me.
But in the second case—with my wife—I'll only be using it at home, at least at first, so I might consider something with alpha, but not too strong.
Just use copulins and ignore her, don't pay much attention to her, as if she were a woman you're not attracted to, she'll become attracted to you, believe me.
Quote from: wesllyx on Dec 22, 2025, 04:37 PMThe best thing you can do to improve yourself in every way is fasting, fasting only with water. Do some fasts of 3 days (72 hours) or more. This is the best thing you can do for yourself. Fasting improves a person; the more you fast, the more you feel the difference.
This is truly excellent advice, I agree with every word. I've been fasting for a year now, and I'm approaching the 7-day mark. I can say it's wonderful: no excess fat, wrinkles have smoothed out, my sweat smells cleaner and more pleasant to women. I have erections like I did when I was 18. So, yes, forum members, fast for at least 48 hours, just on water. (But if you're not familiar with it, you should start with intermittent fasting for 6-18 hours.)
Quote from: wesllyx on Dec 22, 2025, 04:42 PMJust use copulins and ignore her, don't pay much attention to her, as if she were a woman you're not attracted to, she'll become attracted to you, believe me.
Oh yeah, as they say, women always want what others have. That's why I chose Dirty Primitives as one of the options. Thanks, bro.
Quote from: wesllyx on Dec 22, 2025, 10:28 AMQuote from: feroferero on Dec 21, 2025, 07:03 PMI don't want to start another thread about a newbie, but I hope Highlander doesn't mind. Maybe someone will read this and help. I'm also new to this topic. I wanted to ask for advice in two situations.
1) I need to win over a woman (or maybe several women), aged 35-40. I need a sense of complete trust, a positive attitude, and possibly some infatuation. Sex is optional, but I wouldn't refuse if it works. I'll have about a week while we work on the archive together. She's higher up my career ladder and although she treats me well (I can say we're friends in a way), I've learned that even though we're friends, not only doesn't she contribute to my advancement, but she sometimes hinders it, indirectly.
2) I need to rebuild my relationship with my wife of 36 years. We had a huge fight an hour ago, and she left for her mother's. The thing is, our relationship has recently become something like brother-sister, or friend-zoned, if you will. Hell, friend-zoned after 8 years. So, no cheating, I checked, she doesn't seem to want to leave, and I don't want to ruin the marriage. But there's no passion, and there hasn't been sex for a long time. (After reading forums and some articles, I realized she's gotten used to my pheromones and her brain views me as a close relative, not a man.) So, I need the effect of falling in love, as well as the liberation for hot and wild sex.
I have a limited time to order—just a week before my business trip, where I'll meet my mean boss (she's actually nice to me, almost friendly, but it's like some kind of wall and she constantly undermines my career advancement). I can order with weekly delivery only from Aromafero.
After two weeks of searching through various resources, including this one, I chose:
1 - Grail of Affection sample - pheromone oil 6.1 ml,
2 - Pure pheromone concentrate "Beta-androsterone" 10 ml,
3 - Pure pheromone concentrate "F" 10 ml,
4 - Zero to 69 - pheromone spray 10 ml | Treasures of Pheromones
I also became interested in:
- Dirty Primitive,
- Aqua Vitae (although reviews are controversial; some say it's more sexually charged than Nude)
- Androstadienone (I understand it's more of a love-inducing product than Androsterone)
- Nude Alpha plus Androstadienon
Post script: Unfortunately, my situation doesn't allow me to buy a lot, and I think it would be easier to hide a couple of bottles from my wife at home than dozens of oils. I'm counting on 3-4 units for 150-200 euros. I also need something unscented, since everyone knows I only use my two favorite perfumes.
Also, in the first case, I'd like to avoid anything aggressive, so as not to provoke men to be aggressive towards me.
But in the second case—with my wife—I'll only be using it at home, at least at first, so I might consider something with alpha, but not too strong.
You'll create problems using pheromones with your wife unless you adopt a new behavioral pattern that matches the pheromone you're using.
You can't project being an alpha male with the same attitudes; that will create chaos in your home.
Users of pheromones don't understand that the signature needs to match the behavior. You can't project a super-alpha signature and treat your wife like a beta male; she'll feel threatened.
How would a super-alpha male treat a woman? That's how you should treat them while using a super-alpha pheromone.
Attitudes need to match your signature; otherwise, the person will feel repulsed. Believe me.
Be careful.
What do you think of a product like swoon by pheromone treasures for a newbie? Would this create problems with people?
If your intention is sex, just use copulins and ignore women, treat them as if they're not very important, because that's what the copulins signal to them: that you have women easily. Someone who has many women shouldn't be careful with them. If you do that, you'll have a lot of sex.
Quote from: wesllyx on Dec 22, 2025, 06:47 PMIf your intention is sex, just use copulins and ignore women, treat them as if they're not very important, because that's what the copulins signal to them: that you have women easily. Someone who has many women shouldn't be careful with them. If you do that, you'll have a lot of sex.
only copulins, without androstenone
Quote from: feroferero on Dec 22, 2025, 04:27 PMCan I ask what "APi" means?
It stands for Pi or 3.14
Api is based upon a former legendary product called A314 from androtics. Steve at PheromoneXS tried to replicate it from his years working at androtics
can you describe your personality and your wife's personality. how you were in the beginning of the relationship and what you think made her fall for you etc. and how your personalities are now etc. this is the perfect grounds to experiment. ofc people are gonna think heavy alpha or status upfront , or heavy fall in love/ comfort. but i think knowing these things will help people help you better
If your intention is to have sex, whether with your wife or other women, simply use copulins and act dismissively towards them, as if they weren't important. Act as if you were already having sex with two women every day, without hunger, without desire. Show that you don't need sex, you already have more than enough. Ignore them completely. If you talk to them, always speak in a tone that suggests you're not interested in sex.
You will have a lot of sex, believe me.
Don't try to please them; on the contrary, convey that they are the ones who need to please you.
Copulins and indifference are the best pheromones for sex.
Quote from: wesllyx on Dec 23, 2025, 03:07 PMIf your intention is to have sex, whether with your wife or other women, simply use copulins and act dismissively towards them, as if they weren't important. Act as if you were already having sex with two women every day, without hunger, without desire. Show that you don't need sex, you already have more than enough. Ignore them completely. If you talk to them, always speak in a tone that suggests you're not interested in sex.
You will have a lot of sex, believe me.
Don't try to please them; on the contrary, convey that they are the ones who need to please you.
Copulins and indifference are the best pheromones for sex.
I think you should start up a thread that goes deep into this strategy. I like where you are getting at so I would be interested if you can elaborate more. For example I got DP which has copulins but also -enone in it so would it still be okay? Do you think physical attractiveness is still important? Why do copulins hit females so hard when combined with not caring about them?
Understand this:
"Coupulins" = a sign that you have relationships with women.
"Indifference" = a sign that you are worth more than her.
Have you ever seen a Ferrari want to belong to a poor person?
But you've seen many times a poor man wishing he had a Ferrari, right?
When you desire something, you place yourself below it. When you act indifferently towards women, you signal that you are worth more than them, so they will desire you, they will be the ones chasing after you.
The game of indifference works naturally in seduction. When you add copulins, it amplifies everything; everything becomes easier and faster.
Adding enona generates anxiety in you, and women feel this and distance themselves.
Use only copulins, 1 drop or less.
Another tip: a man of value doesn't perform oral sex on women; that's submission. They should do it to you.
You should fuck them, fuck them angrily, as if they were something despicable.
They will love you.
give actual examples of what you've said and what results you got.
Quote from: wesllyx on Dec 25, 2025, 06:46 AMUnderstand this:
"Coupulins" = a sign that you have relationships with women.
"Indifference" = a sign that you are worth more than her.
Have you ever seen a Ferrari want to belong to a poor person?
But you've seen many times a poor man wishing he had a Ferrari, right?
When you desire something, you place yourself below it. When you act indifferently towards women, you signal that you are worth more than them, so they will desire you, they will be the ones chasing after you.
The game of indifference works naturally in seduction. When you add copulins, it amplifies everything; everything becomes easier and faster.
Adding enona generates anxiety in you, and women feel this and distance themselves.
Use only copulins, 1 drop or less.
Another tip: a man of value doesn't perform oral sex on women; that's submission. They should do it to you.
You should fuck them, fuck them angrily, as if they were something despicable.
They will love you.
Homeboy had me until his other tip on not giving oral on the women🤨
Quote from: Fero_XO on Dec 27, 2025, 03:23 AMHomeboy had me until his other tip on not giving oral on the women🤨
Real men don't suck pussy, they fuck it. Sucking pussy is for weak, submissive men.
A man makes a woman suck his dick, not suck her pussy.
Until you can become a real man, keep pleasing women by sucking pussy.
Quote from: wesllyx on Dec 27, 2025, 10:41 AMQuote from: Fero_XO on Dec 27, 2025, 03:23 AMHomeboy had me until his other tip on not giving oral on the women🤨
Real men don't suck pussy, they fuck it. Sucking pussy is for weak, submissive men.
A man makes a woman suck his dick, not suck her pussy.
Until you can become a real man, keep pleasing women by sucking pussy.
Where should we put the copulins? And I only have Dirty Primitive which has copulins in it and not pure cops. Would that be okay?
Quote from: Lethal 2.0 on Dec 27, 2025, 10:56 AMQuote from: wesllyx on Dec 27, 2025, 10:41 AMQuote from: Fero_XO on Dec 27, 2025, 03:23 AMHomeboy had me until his other tip on not giving oral on the women🤨
Real men don't suck pussy, they fuck it. Sucking pussy is for weak, submissive men.
A man makes a woman suck his dick, not suck her pussy.
Until you can become a real man, keep pleasing women by sucking pussy.
Where should we put the copulins? And I only have Dirty Primitive which has copulins in it and not pure cops. Would that be okay?
I always use it on my forearm, just above the wrist.
Only one drop or less, don't put too much.
I've used DP before, it's good, but androstenone generates a bit of anxiety in you and in other people. I much prefer using pure Copulins.
With just Copulins you maintain your personality, you don't get agitated, etc...
Thank you all for the answers, I appreciate it. I disappeared so abruptly that I am now in the process of divorce, my wife made her choice))). On the one hand, I am lil sad that our marriage fell apart, but on the other hand, now I can not restrain myself in the strength and type of influence with my female boss, and a large number of other women become available to me. 8) ;D
Nude Alpha
Quote from: nicemonster on Dec 22, 2025, 10:36 PMcan you describe your personality and your wife's personality. how you were in the beginning of the relationship and what you think made her fall for you etc. and how your personalities are now etc. this is the perfect grounds to experiment. ofc people are gonna think heavy alpha or status upfront , or heavy fall in love/ comfort. but i think knowing these things will help people help you better
The moment came and I decided to answer.
-At the beginning of the relationship we had a good talk and I made it clear to her that if she wants me to be responsible for her - then she can't do what she wants.
-I gave her an example with parents and children - parents control children because they are responsible for them, but if the child starts to behave independently, then the responsibility of parents decreases or disappears. because you can't be responsible for what you don't control.
-I gave her the second example based on a car - I will invest money in my car, I will service it, my car will look the best of all - because it's mine. At the same time, I will not refuel and service a taxi or a rented car, I will only pay the tariff for the time during which I used it but not a cent more.
-Then she understood me correctly and everything was fine. But after the operation and therapy my test decreased, which accordingly affected my smell and the amount of my native pheromones. also due to the decrease in the test my strictness and control decreased, like I became a more homely version of myself. multiply all this by a long relationship when everything got boring (even the most delicious steak will get to you if you eat it every day). that's how her attitude fell apart.
-The main thing is control and rigidity - women perceive a friendly man as weak, because when you treat them well - it's as if you want to get something from her, something that you can't get by force. And this is not only from my (now ex-) wife, it's almost everyone I talked to. Some women, whom I myself transferred to the friend zone, almost directly said that when a man treats them well, gives them gifts - it looks to them as if he serves to gain access to their dumpling, which he cannot take "by force" (I do not mean not to rape, but to take with his charisma, authority, male energy, etc.).
-That is why I agree with Wesllyx - (with or without copulins), if you start paying a lot of attention to a woman - consider yourself in the friend zone. A full man will never look at food for a long time and be interested in it, while a hungry one can stare at all sorts of goodies for minutes... and women see it. After all, if you are full (in terms of female attention and sex) - it means that women pay attention to you, they like you, there is something in you, wow, this territory is worth exploring, even if for one night, but it is worth it. At the same time, if you are hungry for sex and relationships, if you spread out in front of her like a red carpet for a celebrity - for her you become defective, something is wrong with you, plus she understands that you are hungry, that you are in deficit - which means you can be controlled... and this does not mean that you should become a frozen version of yourself, just remember that you are a man, raise your head higher, remember your pride and value, because if you do not love yourself and if you do not appreciate yourself - then others will not do this either.
-It's like coming to a pawnshop with an old priceless thing at a time when you do not know its price – others will give it a price and believe me it will be very, very low. So you should know your price and not sell yourself as if it is a seasonal sale for everyone – you are one of a kind, you are unique, and unique things are expensive)))
-That's how it is. That is why I turned my attention to pheromones - to cover the time for restoring my hormonal background. Although, perhaps over time I will switch to hormone replacement therapy, because after 40-45 no herbs will be able to raise your hormones to the level when you were 20-25.
Quote from: feroferero on Today at 06:06 AM...
Once you have to train a girl and explain things to her over and over it's best to move on. most of us learn this the hard way, myself included. You cant change a person's nature by will. i like the car rental thing you mentioned. You can explain to a rental how to be your car, but if she's internally a rental towards you then she'll never truly be yours. it's just too much work to keep up the act. thats why now that your 'power' diminished shes back to being a rental in her mind because it's her true nature and her true frame of refernce to you. the hardest and best thing to do is move on to someone that is naturally your car now. then there will be no performance...performances are exhausting. as sad as it is woman are way more dangerous than men when it comes to hypergamy thats why it's hard to go all in because of situations like this.
anyways, most people here that mentioned alpha mones seem to be right if you want to keep this relationship. since you cant get pxs, lal is your best bet. I like lal stuff above all other mones in general tbh. i think you need bad wolf and overdose. and maybe sprinkle in some cops(dp) here and there.
Wesllyx is right to an extent but his thoughts are too extreme and only work in certain cases. if you dont know women and are trying to get women you hve to give them attentions..you have to talk to them. you cant ignore them altogether. you're right too you cant just lay down. it's a push and pull. u can ignore or mistreat them alot. but you need to give them some positive emotional spikes.thats what you need to do. I think using overdose at one pump at first you'll start seeing a difference, act indifferent at first with it. maybe when she starts coming on or close to you initiate then stop abruptly and do something else or even leave. it's a rollercoaster. make sure you control, and do all of the domination thing way more than you do the nice things. but you have to do the nice things. if you fuck her and go hardcore and degrade her etc she'll enjoy it, but once you're done you have to cuddle with her.
when you became the best you, you start doing these things automatically for some reason. lol and if you want to eat pussy eat pussy, if thats what you really enjoy then do it dont listen to fools saying real men dont do that. whats a real man? a real man does what he truly wants...he isnt acting and performing to get shit in return. good luck fighting the good fight man