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Title: Are any of you still COLD approaching?
Post by: Dsouza on Oct 10, 2025, 04:12 AM
If so what type of game are you using for cold approach?
Title: Re: Are any of you still COLD approaching?
Post by: BlackSheep on Oct 19, 2025, 01:17 PM
I cold approach almost daily.

My game is pretty direct. I only go indirect if it's obvious that direct would be inappropriate for the situation. i.e. if it's at a funeral or something lol.

Other than that it's pretty authentic. I have DHVs I sprinkle in but I see push-pull as inauthentic and counterproductive.

Most of my game is based around vibing naturally and moving the interaction forward. Open -> number -> date -> lay -> rotation. Straight-line persuasion style.
Title: Re: Are any of you still COLD approaching?
Post by: BlackSheep on Oct 19, 2025, 11:29 PM
Quote from: HowCool on Oct 19, 2025, 01:48 PM
Quote from: BlackSheep on Oct 19, 2025, 01:17 PMI cold approach almost daily.

My game is pretty direct. I only go indirect if it's obvious that direct would be inappropriate for the situation. i.e. if it's at a funeral or something lol.

Other than that it's pretty authentic. I have DHVs I sprinkle in but I see push-pull as inauthentic and counterproductive.

Most of my game is based around vibing naturally and moving the interaction forward. Open -> number -> date -> lay -> rotation. Straight-line persuasion style.

Hey bro how do you like nude, and swoon? How are they solo on their own?

I love both of them. Swoon has def been a staple for me in general, it has such a fun vibe. It's great for younger women. It makes girls in their early 20s give me the doggy dinner bowl look. Their eyes kinda glaze over and they smile as they look up at me. And swoon alone gives me that exact same reaction from multiple younger women I talk to whenever I'm wearing it alone. It's a very specific reaction and kind of unmistakable.

Nude is also great for cold approach. I think it helps put the attention on you in a way in social settings. The self-effects make me more extroverted. And the beautifying effect is very very real.

Both of them also are very non-threatening when worn alone. Versatile for daytime settings, work settings, and night settings. During the night tho I'd pair them with SOB which is just such a reliable one for what it does.
Title: Re: Are any of you still COLD approaching?
Post by: Dsouza on Oct 20, 2025, 04:18 PM
The problem with Nude and Swoon the girls are too young.  Almost too young for most men to play with.

I notice attraction from 18-22 yo girls 90% of the time. 
Title: Re: Are any of you still COLD approaching?
Post by: BlackSheep on Oct 22, 2025, 06:40 PM
Quote from: Dsouza on Oct 20, 2025, 04:18 PMThe problem with Nude and Swoon the girls are too young.  Almost too young for most men to play with.

I notice attraction from 18-22 yo girls 90% of the time. 

Lol hey 18-22 is still legal in most jurisdictions 😂

I've had success with those two with girls even in late 20s. But I usually pair with SOB for nightgame. Pairing either one of them with Taboo is great too, I've had older women respond to that.
Title: Re: Are any of you still COLD approaching?
Post by: BlackSheep on Oct 22, 2025, 06:41 PM
Quote from: HowCool on Oct 20, 2025, 03:06 PM
Quote from: BlackSheep on Oct 19, 2025, 11:29 PM
Quote from: HowCool on Oct 19, 2025, 01:48 PM
Quote from: BlackSheep on Oct 19, 2025, 01:17 PMI cold approach almost daily.

My game is pretty direct. I only go indirect if it's obvious that direct would be inappropriate for the situation. i.e. if it's at a funeral or something lol.

Other than that it's pretty authentic. I have DHVs I sprinkle in but I see push-pull as inauthentic and counterproductive.

Most of my game is based around vibing naturally and moving the interaction forward. Open -> number -> date -> lay -> rotation. Straight-line persuasion style.

Hey bro how do you like nude, and swoon? How are they solo on their own?

I love both of them. Swoon has def been a staple for me in general, it has such a fun vibe. It's great for younger women. It makes girls in their early 20s give me the doggy dinner bowl look. Their eyes kinda glaze over and they smile as they look up at me. And swoon alone gives me that exact same reaction from multiple younger women I talk to whenever I'm wearing it alone. It's a very specific reaction and kind of unmistakable.

Nude is also great for cold approach. I think it helps put the attention on you in a way in social settings. The self-effects make me more extroverted. And the beautifying effect is very very real.

Both of them also are very non-threatening when worn alone. Versatile for daytime settings, work settings, and night settings. During the night tho I'd pair them with SOB which is just such a reliable one for what it does.

What do you think of barely legal?

I love BL, it just gives you this vibe where you're just on the same wavelength with younger women. The name is a little creepy but the blend is excellent.
Title: Re: Are any of you still COLD approaching?
Post by: BlackSheep on Oct 23, 2025, 01:17 AM
Quote from: HowCool on Oct 22, 2025, 08:55 PM
Quote from: BlackSheep on Oct 22, 2025, 06:41 PM
Quote from: HowCool on Oct 20, 2025, 03:06 PM
Quote from: BlackSheep on Oct 19, 2025, 11:29 PM
Quote from: HowCool on Oct 19, 2025, 01:48 PM
Quote from: BlackSheep on Oct 19, 2025, 01:17 PMI cold approach almost daily.

My game is pretty direct. I only go indirect if it's obvious that direct would be inappropriate for the situation. i.e. if it's at a funeral or something lol.

Other than that it's pretty authentic. I have DHVs I sprinkle in but I see push-pull as inauthentic and counterproductive.

Most of my game is based around vibing naturally and moving the interaction forward. Open -> number -> date -> lay -> rotation. Straight-line persuasion style.

Hey bro how do you like nude, and swoon? How are they solo on their own?

I love both of them. Swoon has def been a staple for me in general, it has such a fun vibe. It's great for younger women. It makes girls in their early 20s give me the doggy dinner bowl look. Their eyes kinda glaze over and they smile as they look up at me. And swoon alone gives me that exact same reaction from multiple younger women I talk to whenever I'm wearing it alone. It's a very specific reaction and kind of unmistakable.

Nude is also great for cold approach. I think it helps put the attention on you in a way in social settings. The self-effects make me more extroverted. And the beautifying effect is very very real.

Both of them also are very non-threatening when worn alone. Versatile for daytime settings, work settings, and night settings. During the night tho I'd pair them with SOB which is just such a reliable one for what it does.

What do you think of barely legal?

I love BL, it just gives you this vibe where you're just on the same wavelength with younger women. The name is a little creepy but the blend is excellent.

What do you like better Taboo or BL? If i have already taboo is BL worth still trying?

Depends on what your goals are really. BL works better on a specific type of woman, younger, or "young at heart" types respond really well to it.
Title: Re: Are any of you still COLD approaching?
Post by: Dsouza on Oct 23, 2025, 02:55 PM
Quote from: BlackSheep on Oct 23, 2025, 01:17 AM
Quote from: HowCool on Oct 22, 2025, 08:55 PM
Quote from: BlackSheep on Oct 22, 2025, 06:41 PM
Quote from: HowCool on Oct 20, 2025, 03:06 PM
Quote from: BlackSheep on Oct 19, 2025, 11:29 PM
Quote from: HowCool on Oct 19, 2025, 01:48 PM
Quote from: BlackSheep on Oct 19, 2025, 01:17 PMI cold approach almost daily.

My game is pretty direct. I only go indirect if it's obvious that direct would be inappropriate for the situation. i.e. if it's at a funeral or something lol.

Other than that it's pretty authentic. I have DHVs I sprinkle in but I see push-pull as inauthentic and counterproductive.

Most of my game is based around vibing naturally and moving the interaction forward. Open -> number -> date -> lay -> rotation. Straight-line persuasion style.

Hey bro how do you like nude, and swoon? How are they solo on their own?

I love both of them. Swoon has def been a staple for me in general, it has such a fun vibe. It's great for younger women. It makes girls in their early 20s give me the doggy dinner bowl look. Their eyes kinda glaze over and they smile as they look up at me. And swoon alone gives me that exact same reaction from multiple younger women I talk to whenever I'm wearing it alone. It's a very specific reaction and kind of unmistakable.

Nude is also great for cold approach. I think it helps put the attention on you in a way in social settings. The self-effects make me more extroverted. And the beautifying effect is very very real.

Both of them also are very non-threatening when worn alone. Versatile for daytime settings, work settings, and night settings. During the night tho I'd pair them with SOB which is just such a reliable one for what it does.

What do you think of barely legal?

I love BL, it just gives you this vibe where you're just on the same wavelength with younger women. The name is a little creepy but the blend is excellent.

What do you like better Taboo or BL? If i have already taboo is BL worth still trying?

Depends on what your goals are really. BL works better on a specific type of woman, younger, or "young at heart" types respond really well to it.

Just purchased BL.
Have you ever gotten kissing, oral sex, or sex with BL solo?  If in combo what did you pair it with?
Is it just a social/flirty vibe meant to vibe with young at heart girls or does it get you laying them?

I'm not looking for platonic relations.
Title: Re: Are any of you still COLD approaching?
Post by: Dsouza on Oct 24, 2025, 02:17 AM
Quote from: BlackSheep on Oct 19, 2025, 01:17 PMI cold approach almost daily.

My game is pretty direct. I only go indirect if it's obvious that direct would be inappropriate for the situation. i.e. if it's at a funeral or something lol.

Other than that it's pretty authentic. I have DHVs I sprinkle in but I see push-pull as inauthentic and counterproductive.

Most of my game is based around vibing naturally and moving the interaction forward. Open -> number -> date -> lay -> rotation. Straight-line persuasion style.

Where did you learn your method of game from?  It seems like you've got an actual blueprint or method to the madness that stems beyond trial and error. Resources?
Title: Re: Are any of you still COLD approaching?
Post by: BlackSheep on Oct 24, 2025, 11:13 AM
Quote from: Dsouza on Oct 23, 2025, 02:55 PM
Quote from: BlackSheep on Oct 23, 2025, 01:17 AM
Quote from: HowCool on Oct 22, 2025, 08:55 PM
Quote from: BlackSheep on Oct 22, 2025, 06:41 PM
Quote from: HowCool on Oct 20, 2025, 03:06 PM
Quote from: BlackSheep on Oct 19, 2025, 11:29 PM
Quote from: HowCool on Oct 19, 2025, 01:48 PM
Quote from: BlackSheep on Oct 19, 2025, 01:17 PMI cold approach almost daily.

My game is pretty direct. I only go indirect if it's obvious that direct would be inappropriate for the situation. i.e. if it's at a funeral or something lol.

Other than that it's pretty authentic. I have DHVs I sprinkle in but I see push-pull as inauthentic and counterproductive.

Most of my game is based around vibing naturally and moving the interaction forward. Open -> number -> date -> lay -> rotation. Straight-line persuasion style.

Hey bro how do you like nude, and swoon? How are they solo on their own?

I love both of them. Swoon has def been a staple for me in general, it has such a fun vibe. It's great for younger women. It makes girls in their early 20s give me the doggy dinner bowl look. Their eyes kinda glaze over and they smile as they look up at me. And swoon alone gives me that exact same reaction from multiple younger women I talk to whenever I'm wearing it alone. It's a very specific reaction and kind of unmistakable.

Nude is also great for cold approach. I think it helps put the attention on you in a way in social settings. The self-effects make me more extroverted. And the beautifying effect is very very real.

Both of them also are very non-threatening when worn alone. Versatile for daytime settings, work settings, and night settings. During the night tho I'd pair them with SOB which is just such a reliable one for what it does.

What do you think of barely legal?

I love BL, it just gives you this vibe where you're just on the same wavelength with younger women. The name is a little creepy but the blend is excellent.

What do you like better Taboo or BL? If i have already taboo is BL worth still trying?

Depends on what your goals are really. BL works better on a specific type of woman, younger, or "young at heart" types respond really well to it.

Just purchased BL.
Have you ever gotten kissing, oral sex, or sex with BL solo?  If in combo what did you pair it with?
Is it just a social/flirty vibe meant to vibe with young at heart girls or does it get you laying them?

I'm not looking for platonic relations.


It's definitely not platonic. But also on the more social side. I really do love it, I almost feel like you can't OD on it. I sprayed like 20 sprays on myself when I was first testing it just to see what would happen, then went to meet my friend for dinner. Immediately I walk in the door of the restaurant and the two college-age hostess chicks were completely on my wavelength. "On the same wavelength" is the best way I can describe it.

It's like you just see each other and you're connecting with them, and before you even talk you both just know you're riding each other's vibes and they want to get to know you. Self effects made me more fun and animated, too. And it gave me a ton of opportunities for escalation.

I have worn BL solo with girls I was already sleeping with and had no problems there. But nowadays I'm usually pairing it with something else when meeting new women to steer it toward a more sexual/intimate realm.

BL was best for escalation when paired with SOB. That combo is one of my faves. SOB adds an edge to BL that it doesn't have on its own. Taboo is great with it too.

In fact, I wanna say 3 or so months ago (last july) I number closed a stripper while wearing all 3 - BL/Taboo/SOB. She was one of MANY strippers in the place that showed super overt interest in me that night. Like staring from across the room, trying to get my attention, etc.

It was a super on night for me, I don't know if that mone combo was the sole reason why but it DEFINITELY helped. And the girl I #closed was def one of the hottest girls in the place. Not THE hottest, the hottest strippers are always busy grinding on geriatric men... but she was in the top 5.

I was wearing the same (BL/Taboo/SOB) when I met with her as a regular person the next day and banged.

One thing I noticed with the BL that night is that it creates this connection/vibe with hot girls, but you have to DIRECT where you want it to go. I noticed with a couple strippers, they definitely felt like it was "on" with me in that sense, but they interpreted it like I was a CUSTOMER and even a potential REGULAR for them at first. Which I've never had happen so blatantly. Like they felt the vibe pull so strongly that they were like, "Oh yeah, this guy wants to come back and buy dances from me on a regular basis" when I hadn't even bought one dance from them at all (and I never do unless they're indisputably on the same page that I'm not a customer).

Part of that is my fault as with strip club game getting OUT of the customer frame is priority numero uno and I didn't cement myself as "not a customer" enough with those girls (the easiest way to do that is to just say you work in the industry, as a DJ or business leader or something else. But I don't like to lie and was primarily trying to do it by implication using more subtle strategies so they come to their own conclusion that I wasn't a bitch-ass customer. When it works, it works better but implications don't always land with some girls so you have to be more explicit with them).

Once I was more explicit it's like a bell went off in their heads and they got it. It's the vibe of, "I get what this place is and I'm not playing that game because I'm not a sad little man who pays for this."

So keep that in mind. I think BL is excellent for opening the door to escalation because of the vibe it creates with women. But you have to be the one who leads them through it.
Title: Re: Are any of you still COLD approaching?
Post by: BlackSheep on Oct 24, 2025, 11:14 AM
Quote from: HowCool on Oct 23, 2025, 03:47 PMNotice any depression or side effects from the A1 in BL?

Not really, aside from a mild light-headedness the next day. IMO it's worth it.

Keep in mind i only get the side effects from A1 after I wear the single molecule (2 or 3 drops) a couple days in a row. And even then I wouldn't call it depression. More like introspection.
Title: Re: Are any of you still COLD approaching?
Post by: BlackSheep on Oct 24, 2025, 11:25 AM
Quote from: Dsouza on Oct 24, 2025, 02:17 AM
Quote from: BlackSheep on Oct 19, 2025, 01:17 PMI cold approach almost daily.

My game is pretty direct. I only go indirect if it's obvious that direct would be inappropriate for the situation. i.e. if it's at a funeral or something lol.

Other than that it's pretty authentic. I have DHVs I sprinkle in but I see push-pull as inauthentic and counterproductive.

Most of my game is based around vibing naturally and moving the interaction forward. Open -> number -> date -> lay -> rotation. Straight-line persuasion style.

Where did you learn your method of game from?  It seems like you've got an actual blueprint or method to the madness that stems beyond trial and error. Resources?

I have been doing game since way back in the day, I even used to live in a "project vegas" of sorts back in 2015 with a bunch of guys who were really dedicated to this. So it's kind of a mishmash of what I've picked up from the last 15yrs.

BUT one of the biggest needle-movers for me was JMULV's methods. He goes by John Anthony Lifestyle now on YouTube. You really can't beat his systems, and you can layer in whatever applies to you that helps after that.

Aside from that I'm an ardent student of evolutionary psychology. When you study that you can't get swayed by the social media bullshit going around or marketing trying to tell you what girls want and making you feel inadequate.

Also Mystery is an OG, but I think the Mystery Method overcomplicates things. The stuff from the Mystery Method that still applies is:
> Attraction switches (from evolutionary psych)
> Compliance model
> Microcalibration

His other stuff like "group theory" and "negging" is stupid and turns more guys into social terrorists than seducers.

Also I have been in marketing/copywriting for the past 12ish years and viewing the whole process like a sales funnel is extremely helpful. Another user on here asked me to write a longer post detailing my whole strategy and when I get the time to write that out, I will definitely do it. Probably this weekend.
Title: Re: Are any of you still COLD approaching?
Post by: Dsouza on Oct 27, 2025, 04:12 AM
Upon reflection I realize I don't need to learn scripts to be a better speaker.

My experience with the Barely Legal combo worked magic last night with an HB9 with natural, granular, conversation.

I discuss my expereince in the BL thread.

To be honest I found it too tame solo for my age.  I had to combo it up with some other products.
Title: Re: Are any of you still COLD approaching?
Post by: BlackSheep on Oct 28, 2025, 12:57 PM
Quote from: Dsouza on Oct 27, 2025, 04:12 AMUpon reflection I realize I don't need to learn scripts to be a better speaker.

My experience with the Barely Legal combo worked magic last night with an HB9 with natural, granular, conversation.

I discuss my expereince in the BL thread.

To be honest I found it too tame solo for my age.  I had to combo it up with some other products.


Haha I was just going to write a reply about how I don't use scripts/routines for that reason.

Yeah I love BL. I wish they sold it in 30ml! I add a 10ml one to every order from PXS just to be sure I don't run out.

And yeah that's why I combine BL with SOB a lot. BL lacks the edge but works so well for vibing.
Title: Re: Are any of you still COLD approaching?
Post by: Dsouza on Oct 29, 2025, 01:16 PM
Quote from: HowCool on Oct 28, 2025, 03:29 PM
Quote from: BlackSheep on Oct 28, 2025, 12:57 PM
Quote from: Dsouza on Oct 27, 2025, 04:12 AMUpon reflection I realize I don't need to learn scripts to be a better speaker.

My experience with the Barely Legal combo worked magic last night with an HB9 with natural, granular, conversation.

I discuss my expereince in the BL thread.

To be honest I found it too tame solo for my age.  I had to combo it up with some other products.


Haha I was just going to write a reply about how I don't use scripts/routines for that reason.

Yeah I love BL. I wish they sold it in 30ml! I add a 10ml one to every order from PXS just to be sure I don't run out.

And yeah that's why I combine BL with SOB a lot. BL lacks the edge but works so well for vibing.

If they told you to choose and you had to only pick one. Wich would you choose and why? BL or Taboo?


I know this wasn't addressed to me but I feel it wise to reply since my opinion is of value as I have tried both products.

If you only had to get one Taboo or Barely Legal get Taboo.  The reason is for some men (especially myself 50+) BL doesn't have any ommph on its own.  Taboo has the whole kitchen sink.  I think it was designed for the candlelight dinner plus homerun.

If you can afford both, get both.  The synergy of both combined is greater than the individual products on their own.