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Two of these are no longer available buuut...

1. 2013 AM
2. True pheromones true love
3. Artist Sam's version of A314
4. NA
5. NPA

The top three are my favorite combo atm. When I don't feel like using up my dwindling supply of AM I substitute in NPA instead.

Welcome aboard, I've enjoyed your posts on the old forum and it's good to get more veterans in here.

Personally I haven't seen disinhibition from monester. Not saying it's not there but for me it hasn't been blatant like in some other blends. I've seen it with hypnotic connections and EPP however, and the great thing about the attraction essence stuff is it has absolutely no pheromone smell, iirc that's been a concern of yours in the past. EPP, monester and SDB all combo well with high none mixes as well, just don't go overboard or you'll start scaring guys.

Has anyone successfully comboed TL with cops? I know that the conventional wisdom is that meo-est and cops don't mix well, but a lot of people say that about A1 and cops too, and that combo has been great on me. Tempted to try it but I don't want waste any of my remaining TL if it's guaranteed to not work...

Try taking half a teaspoon of agmatine before pheromone usage. This seems to drastically change the next day effects for me, I'm curious if it works the same for others.

Does anybody know if LAL use alcohol in their DPG?

They're 70% DPG and 30% ethanol iirc

My 2023 bottle of L2K seems to have one property that no other mone does: it disinhibits the hell out of my GF. She goes from a quiet introvert to a social butterfly from two sprays. 2014 L2K doesn't seem to have this effect on her, and I haven't been able to replicate it with various combinations of DHEAS, beta-androstAnol, and androstenols. Maybe it's the androsterone potassium sulfate? I also agree with those who say that it makes guys very friendly. Still haven't found a way to make it work great for pickup though, it seems to be social but not terribly attractive.

For anyone that's tried both, how do impi wipes compare to the normal spray? Do you find the effects to be identical?

I discovered this by accident and still need to test it more, but for anyone that suffers from reverse imprinting try this and let me know if it works for you: 1 gram agmatine beforehand and a nicotine patch the entire time you're wearing the imprinting pheromone. I assume nicotine gum or a vape would work too.

The majority of the sprays are back in stock again now

As far as I remember:

Alfa Machio + Glace = L2K

He-Mone also remembered it that way and posted it on Discord.

We just need to find the right ratio of the mix.

Here's what Chris had to say about it:

"L2K version 1 & 2 are both different from a straight mix of glace & AM.

L2K v1. is basically a 3:2 ratio of glace / AM, with exaggerated confidence boosting / fun / upbeat vibe of glace: it's got more molecule A, more DHEAS, and a few other differences from a straight up mix of Glace / AM. On the AM side, there's more androstadienone (20% more than AM)

so L2Kv1 = 66% glace with exaggerated social / fun qualities, and 33% Alfa Maschio with 20% more Androstadienone.

L2Kv2. is a the same 3:2 (66% and 33%) ratio, with 66% going to glace which has had molecule A completely eliminated (as it has beta-qualities), and has 33% Alfa Maschio with more Androstenone and Androstanone. Plus the same 20% more Androstadienone, and a similar increase in DHEAS.

So it is really a strange hybridization of Glace and Alfa Maschio, with magnified elements of either glace or AM; v.1 = Glace on steroids / Beefed up AM; v.2 being glace (lacking beta/femininity) and Alfa Maschio on steroids.

Neither is like straight up Glace + AM."

[We're planning to revive the classic Alpha Dream formulas – Glace and Alfa Maschio.]

We're planning to revive the classic Alpha Dream formulas – Glace and Alfa Maschio.
We've got the knowledge, motivation, and capability, and we still remember those legendary early versions that existed before the NOS release.

Big thanks to @Velvet_Eye for the help and advice — much appreciated!

Right now, we're waiting for a few pheromone molecules to arrive.
Once we have them, we'll craft several test versions and start field testing.
After that, we'll decide whether to release the products publicly or keep them private for now.

STATUS: Waiting for molecules → Testing phase coming soon.
Last update: October 2025.

Great news, excited to test this!

They've been out of stock of a bunch of stuff exactly like this before and bounced back, although that was pre-tariffs.

According to Ekscentra "Although we don't technically know 100% that P86 is Androstenetrione, SteveO specifically mentioned somewhere that he would treat P86 as though it were -etrione regardless. So yes, XSP86 is -etrione."
https://pherotruth.fans/Thread-Sources-of-Androstenetrione

So yeah the safest bet is just to buy XSP86.

I bought House of Nutrition 6-oxo but I'm not sure how effective it is. Still need to do more testing.

Can we really use the supplements and dilute it into a spray or oil so that it has pheromone like effects?

I haven't done it myself, but it seems like a large percentage of the people who have tried to DIY it say it doesn't work like the PT stuff. There are two kinds of astaxanthin, naturally occuring, which is esterfied, and lab made, which isn't. I'm not sure which PT uses.

There was some speculation that P83 might be beta THDOC. I don't think anyone knows what P96 is besides Androtics, Stevo, and Garry