Nude Alpha Gel

[kwow]

I've a few of these unscented for about 6 years, and I'll be honest, I can't figure them out.

I've worn small doses and super high doses like 8 pumps. I don't really see many reactions from the people around me/targets

The way it affects me though, is it makes me very closed off. I'm in my head and not really engaging, especially in groups.

I really wanted to like this mone after the reviews on the old forum, but I just can't find anything good about it.

I'll try the regular Nude Alpha version at some point instead to see the comparison. Did anyone else have success with this mone?

[Johnny Fever]

I have both and always had good experience with NA but not so much with the gel. Gotta wait for warmer weather so I can break out NAG. SXD-9 and what little I have left of my OD sample.

[Alphonso]

I have both. NA oil is a wonderfull blend, probably the one I used the most over the last 4 years. NAG is a dude for me. Give me headache and nothing from people around me.

[kwow]

I have both and always had good experience with NA but not so much with the gel. Gotta wait for warmer weather so I can break out NAG. SXD-9 and what little I have left of my OD sample.

I have both. NA oil is a wonderfull blend, probably the one I used the most over the last 4 years. NAG is a dude for me. Give me headache and nothing from people around me.

Yeah it definitely seems like NA is still popular but I don't see many successful reports about NAG unfortunately

[Ryan1991]

Been wearing half a pump of NAG with 1-2 sprays of Cohesion and 1-2 sprays of Xist. I apply the cover scent first, then the gel, then the sprays.

Although I got some pretty decent hits, now that you mention the introversion it definitely took more of an effort to be social.

Maybe a social or playful product like Bliss or Love Boat could help counteract that, but then the sheer amount of mones is starting to get quite excessive.

Maybe Evolve would be a good boost.

[Merovingian]

I have yet to see success with my NAG

Does anyone know what's in it?

[kwow]

Although I got some pretty decent hits, now that you mention the introversion it definitely took more of an effort to be social.

Maybe a social or playful product like Bliss or Love Boat could help counteract that, but then the sheer amount of mones is starting to get quite excessive.

Have you tried the Cohesion and Xist as a combo by themselves without the NAG?

I've used socials like Shine and Bliss with NAG and I'd say a few things about it:

1.) It does mitigate the introverted aspect somewhat at the beginning, but within a couple hours the NAG wins out.

2.) If you find yourself crashing after a particular social, and then combine that with NAG, the crash the day after might be rough. It is for me.

3.) If a social is needed to buffer the NAG, especially in an already social/bonding mix like with Cohesion and Xist, then is there even an upside to the NAG at that point? Might be better off just using Evolve + Xist/Cohesion as otherwise it seems like a waste of many mones trying to get an effect that seems lackluster overall

I have yet to see success with my NAG

How do you apply it? Dosage? Unscented? Combo or solo?

[CJ_W]

I have NAG and used it a few times, It's a LOT stronger than the oil, so I have to maybe use half a pump. 

NA as a whole again is to use as an imprinter, and a long term kind of thing. Of course in clubs and bars it doesn't really do much unless you expose your target to it for a longer period of time.  I went to a club with this on and sat near a few ladies, and within about 20 minutes of so, they started noticing me and started chatting me up.

Again, I've tried this in a coffee shop and nothing like that happened.  I did get the big eyes of a lady sitting next to me when I began talking to her for a while.   Got her contact info and got ghosted lol. But she really seemed to like my company and lingered just like NA oil does.

Would I use this as a main mone?   Not sure, I'd need to test this more, but honestly I think this is a better one to use when you're already in a relationship and want to get her latching on to you more.  I think NA oil can be used like this as well and maybe more in the club/bar scene. But I think there are better products for that.

If anyone still has NAG I'd just keep testing for a month or two.

[kwow]

I have NAG and used it a few times, It's a LOT stronger than the oil, so I have to maybe use half a pump. 

NA as a whole again is to use as an imprinter, and a long term kind of thing. Of course in clubs and bars it doesn't really do much unless you expose your target to it for a longer period of time.  I went to a club with this on and sat near a few ladies, and within about 20 minutes of so, they started noticing me and started chatting me up.

Again, I've tried this in a coffee shop and nothing like that happened.  I did get the big eyes of a lady sitting next to me when I began talking to her for a while.   Got her contact info and got ghosted lol. But she really seemed to like my company and lingered just like NA oil does.

Would I use this as a main mone?   Not sure, I'd need to test this more, but honestly I think this is a better one to use when you're already in a relationship and want to get her latching on to you more.  I think NA oil can be used like this as well and maybe more in the club/bar scene. But I think there are better products for that.

If anyone still has NAG I'd just keep testing for a month or two.

That's interesting. I've used anywhere from a third of a pump to like 10 pumps. For me it doesn't do anything.

Clubs and parties don't mix well with me and mones if it's anything sexual or too intimate bonding. I'll find a circle cleared around me and my party within 20 mins of being in my phero cloud.

NAG I've more tried to use with restaurants and bar dates. Never did anything by itself. With Voodoo it did bring girls back. Like I would meet with them like 3-4 times within a week and a half to 2 weeks. But they weren't necessarily doing so with romantic interest

[ripShadow]

Pherofolk,

So NAG was the mone that made me make a profile to post on the original PT (because it was having unintended consequences and I was trying to see if someone had ideas on how to navigate them). I can safely say after years of use several times a week (always 1 pump) that it is an effective product and is very consistent, but it requires two things in my experience: (1) exposure; and (2) congruence.

You can and will see immediate effects from NAG, but not the imprinting ones. For example, respect and authority tend to be immediate for me (within the first 60 seconds). I have never been called "sir" by women or "boss" by men more times in my life than while using NAG. The most other most notable effect I've experienced is the velcro-effect and it is kind of hard to describe, but if you start a conversation with someone, it feels like they will converse with you indefinitely until you end the conversation or "allow" them to go (they will say things like, "I really must be going... I should get back to work... etc. repeatedly, but not actually leave unless you say, "you should definitely do that," "good idea," or the like and even then it's like they second guess their decision (almost like they want you to want them to stay)). It's like they need your approval.

The not immediate effect - the whole reason I tried NAG and that other people likely do too - is the imprinting. And in my experience, that part takes exposure and congruence. There seems to be a positive correlation between exposure and the amount they think about you (for example, if I go on a date with a girl for 4+ hours, she will tell me things like "I've never felt this way about someone before," "I can't stop thinking about you," "there's something different about you," etc.) like... two to three days later. But, these effects are strongest when they reach out to me first - as if I sent a text after the date saying it was fun and we should do it again sometime, but nothing else in the days that follow. My hypothesis on that has always been that they are constantly thinking about me, but it feels natural to them because I am not instigating the thought with a communication (I have never asked, but that makes sense to me).

However, the other side of that coin is congruence. One of the major drawbacks - IMHO - of NAG is that congruence means keeping your mouth shut and saying really important things when you have to speak. It is frustratingly hard to explain this one, but the best way to do it is to say: imagine if the person you are speaking to will remember every word you say obsessively. If you say something negative or arguably negative, there will be 10x the reaction and they will never forget. But if you say something positive: same thing. In my experience, women can and will fall in love with you if you are the real deal (not just trying to sleep with them, etc.) and you actively engage them in conversation (using just open ended questions and not talking about yourself unless they ask you - even then, keep your answers concise). The reason I say this is a major drawback is that most of your conversations will necessarily need to be one-sided and you cannot control what people hear you say, only what you say. So people will be excited to talk to you, but not excited to hear you talk. And they might interpret what you say in the most a-backwards way possible.

There are also some negative long-term side effects. For example, there are numerous women in my life (not even just romantic interests) that view me adversarially and try to compete with me. I do not understand where this comes from other than NAG and do not engage any women in that way, let alone these women. I suppose it is possible they are trying to "test" me as a mate from a biological perspective, but I have not even expressed interest in many of these women, just treated them with respect and common courtesy. It would be easy to write it off as "it's just those women," but they only do it with me so that ain't it champ. Another long term negative side effect is women's sleep. In my experience, they will struggle with sleep heavily and unless this is just a way more common thing with women in my country than ever before, I am thinking it is NAG. My confirmation bias on these two is that when I have stopped for periods of time those issues seem to dissipate.

As for the oil - I have never seen effects. It is literally the same product (IIRC Gary chimed in on this) and I know the oil came first, but it is always a bag of nadda for me every time I wear the oil (almost out of the bottle at this point). Maybe that is because people are used to the gel sig on me or maybe it is because I am not using so many drops (IIRC, Gary said a pump is like eight drops of the oil, so that really could be it TBH). Or maybe the gel is smoother. I am not sure, but that has been my experience.

[CJ_W]

NAG is a concentrated version of NA Oil. So a few drops of NA oil probably is not enough, I usually used 4-6 drops

[Johnny Fever]

NAG is a concentrated version of NA Oil. So a few drops of NA oil probably is not enough, I usually used 4-6 drops

I know I usually default for 6 - 8 drops. Looking at AS3's Fall in Love mix he mentioned a 3-inch strip of NA when in the roller bottle. I wonder what that equates to in drops?

[sigma]

I ran today half of Gary Tester bottle of NAG. I didn't find any difference between NAG and NA. I think I need more testing for NAG or lower my dose to see the difference between two.

[CJ_W]

NAG is a concentrated version of NA Oil. So a few drops of NA oil probably is not enough, I usually used 4-6 drops

I know I usually default for 6 - 8 drops. Looking at AS3's Fall in Love mix he mentioned a 3-inch strip of NA when in the roller bottle. I wonder what that equates to in drops?

I honestly dont think it matters that much, The roller is kinda scuffed anyway, when I had the oil roller I just took it out and used a dropper.

His combo was NA+A1+Glace right?  Glace was a social if I remember right, so you could probably use HS in it's place. (I could be wrong but yeah) I think the interaction with A1 and those two together was the most important part. A1 being the Lynchpin of the combo.

[CJ_W]

I ran today half of Gary Tester bottle of NAG. I didn't find any difference between NAG and NA. I think I need more testing for NAG or lower my dose to see the difference between two.

Where did you test it? How much did you take? How long did you test it? did you talk to the same women more than once for a longer period of time?