A314 Marketplace

[ebbnflow]

So it seems A314 will be launching a marketplace where members can create mixes to test and even sell. What do you think of this? Would any of you create and sell mixes there?

[Johnny Fever]

So it seems A314 will be launching a marketplace where members can create mixes to test and even sell. What do you think of this? Would any of you create and sell mixes there?

While it might have merit I don't know how likely I would be in jumping on unknown mixes. It's bad enough I've paid for mixes by popular vendors which for all intents and purposes gave me the same results as water. Perhaps after the crafter makes it, tweaks it and has a successful testing phase then I might be interested then.

[ebbnflow]

I agree with you there. I'm thinking about making a "sex god" mix with TAC and some other molecules. I wonder how expensive it would be, though.

[greedware]

I really want to get my hands on L2k and this might be a way to do it, given my bad luck ordering from AD.   

Just hope the formula on the spreadsheet is correct.

[ebbnflow]

I really want to get my hands on L2k and this might be a way to do it, given my bad luck ordering from AD. 

Just hope the formula on the spreadsheet is correct.

There's not really a formula on the spreadsheet. It's just the supposed contents. You'll have to do a lot of testing around.

The components from what is assumed to be from highest to lowest concentrations are:

Androstadienone, alpha androstenol, DHEAS, adrostANONE, androstENONE, beta androstANOL, beta androstENOL, and androstERONE sulfate at 128 mcg of pheromones per spray.

This is the same information as found on the product page, minus the mcg/spray directly. But you can also figure out the mcg/spray from their page by dividing 29 mg (29,000 mcg) by 226 sprays, which would be 128.318584 mcg/spray.

You'll have to mess around with ratios and figure out how many sprays would be in the bottles/atomizers from A314. So it would take a lot of experimenting, and you can make your own formula based off LIIK, but you'll probably never copy the exact formula.

[greedware]

I really want to get my hands on L2k and this might be a way to do it, given my bad luck ordering from AD. 

Just hope the formula on the spreadsheet is correct.

There's not really a formula on the spreadsheet. It's just the supposed contents. You'll have to do a lot of testing around.

The components from what is assumed to be from highest to lowest concentrations are:

Androstadienone, alpha androstenol, DHEAS, adrostANONE, androstENONE, beta androstANOL, beta androstENOL, and androstERONE sulfate at 128 mcg of pheromones per spray.

This is the same information as found on the product page, minus the mcg/spray directly. But you can also figure out the mcg/spray from their page by dividing 29 mg (29,000 mcg) by 226 sprays, which would be 128.318584 mcg/spray.

You'll have to mess around with ratios and figure out how many sprays would be in the bottles/atomizers from A314. So it would take a lot of experimenting, and you can make your own formula based off LIIK, but you'll probably never copy the exact formula.

Oh, ok, so those numbers aren't ratios?   like 8 parts erone sulf to 1 part dienone

If a lot of tinkering would be involved I'm probably better off just buying the components myself

I did ask PXS if they could do a custom blend for me and they said they would get back to me... and never did.  LOL

[ebbnflow]

Oh, ok, so those numbers aren't ratios?  like 8 parts erone sulf to 1 part dienone

If a lot of tinkering would be involved I'm probably better off just buying the components myself

I did ask PXS if they could do a custom blend for me and they said they would get back to me... and never did.  LOL

Yeah, unfortunately they're not the ratios, so the numbers you see aren't how many parts of each molecule there would be; just the suspected order. A "1" would likely the be the first ingredient at the highest concentration compared to others, and an "8" would be towards the last of ingredients in a smaller concentration.

I think the cheapest options for basic molecules would be Aroma Fero and Pheromone Treasures, though some molecules like DHEAS, anone, erone-s and banol you would need to order from XS.

[He-Mone]

I really want to get my hands on L2k and this might be a way to do it, given my bad luck ordering from AD. 

Just hope the formula on the spreadsheet is correct.

There's not really a formula on the spreadsheet. It's just the supposed contents. You'll have to do a lot of testing around.

The components from what is assumed to be from highest to lowest concentrations are:

Androstadienone, alpha androstenol, DHEAS, adrostANONE, androstENONE, beta androstANOL, beta androstENOL, and androstERONE sulfate at 128 mcg of pheromones per spray.

This is the same information as found on the product page, minus the mcg/spray directly. But you can also figure out the mcg/spray from their page by dividing 29 mg (29,000 mcg) by 226 sprays, which would be 128.318584 mcg/spray.

You'll have to mess around with ratios and figure out how many sprays would be in the bottles/atomizers from A314. So it would take a lot of experimenting, and you can make your own formula based off LIIK, but you'll probably never copy the exact formula.

Oh, ok, so those numbers aren't ratios?  like 8 parts erone sulf to 1 part dienone

If a lot of tinkering would be involved I'm probably better off just buying the components myself

I did ask PXS if they could do a custom blend for me and they said they would get back to me... and never did.  LOL

Here's a quote from Chris about L2K V2:

"LIIK v. 2 is finalized. For all DIYers ill give some insight on the formula..
Per bottle:
4.5 mg A1
2.75 mg none
3.25 mg androstAnone
9 mg DHEAS
12 mg alpha androstenol
xx micrograms androsterone sulphate potassium : D
1 unlisted ingredient
1 secret ingredient
Ethanol, PG, DPG, 10% deionized water"

And here's a quote from the old forum I saved in my notes about L2K V1, unfortunately I don't remember the original author:

"Calculating from the info thats given my best guess to the L2Kv1 brake down is aprox...
4.05 mg Androstadienone
2.4 mg none
2.84 mg androstAnone
8.1 mg DHEAS
8.4 mg alpha androstenol
"A lot of additional Molecule 'A'"
Possible 1 unlisted ingredient
Possible 1 secret ingredient
With the "25% increase -none" I subtracted 12.5% equally from both none types, it could be more changes in androstAnone or vice versa. Alpha dreams website says the original Alpha Maschio had 29 mg per bottle (Did Chris ever give an updated number?) From whats calculated here L2kv1 has potentially 25.79mg of ingredients disclosed. There is 3.21 or more if using 29mg as a reference point distributed to Molecule A/alpha-THDOC and any secret ingredients. V2 has 31.5mg thats disclosed and what looks like some secret ingredients used for steering so my best guess is that both v1 and v2 are not too far off from having between 32-35mg of ingredients."

[ebbnflow]

Nice, He-Mone!

Then one can cross reference with what's listed on AD's site.

V2 35 mg, 36 ml:
Androstadienone
Alpha-androstenol
DHEAS
Androstanone
Androstenone
ß-androstenol
Androsterone
Androsterone potassium sulfate
Androsterone sodium sulfate

V1 29 mg, 36 ml:
Androstadienone
Alpha-androstenol
DHEAS
Androstanone
Androstenone
ß-androstAnol (Molecule "A")
ß-androstenol
Androsterone potassium sulfate

I don't know where to get erone potassium sulfate, though.

[He-Mone]

Yeah I don't know where you would get the erone potassium sulfate unless you have the credentials to order from a Sigma-Aldrich type company. There's also alpha-THDOC in L2K, which nobody carries. Aroma Fero used to have it as an option in their custom formula creator, which was discontinued due to it being a pain in the ass for them. I imagine if you ordered enough bottles to make it worth their while they would be open to doing a one-off custom formula.

[sigma]

PXS has lot of single molecule which are hard to find. One example is Androstanone. No vendor sale Androstanone except PXS. So might worth to contact PXS for custom order.

[Phero_SA]

I really want to get my hands on L2k and this might be a way to do it, given my bad luck ordering from AD. 

Just hope the formula on the spreadsheet is correct.

There's not really a formula on the spreadsheet. It's just the supposed contents. You'll have to do a lot of testing around.

The components from what is assumed to be from highest to lowest concentrations are:

Androstadienone, alpha androstenol, DHEAS, adrostANONE, androstENONE, beta androstANOL, beta androstENOL, and androstERONE sulfate at 128 mcg of pheromones per spray.

This is the same information as found on the product page, minus the mcg/spray directly. But you can also figure out the mcg/spray from their page by dividing 29 mg (29,000 mcg) by 226 sprays, which would be 128.318584 mcg/spray.

You'll have to mess around with ratios and figure out how many sprays would be in the bottles/atomizers from A314. So it would take a lot of experimenting, and you can make your own formula based off LIIK, but you'll probably never copy the exact formula.

Oh, ok, so those numbers aren't ratios?  like 8 parts erone sulf to 1 part dienone

If a lot of tinkering would be involved I'm probably better off just buying the components myself

I did ask PXS if they could do a custom blend for me and they said they would get back to me... and never did.  LOL

Here's a quote from Chris about L2K V2:

"LIIK v. 2 is finalized. For all DIYers ill give some insight on the formula..
Per bottle:
4.5 mg A1
2.75 mg none
3.25 mg androstAnone
9 mg DHEAS
12 mg alpha androstenol
xx micrograms androsterone sulphate potassium : D
1 unlisted ingredient
1 secret ingredient
Ethanol, PG, DPG, 10% deionized water"

And here's a quote from the old forum I saved in my notes about L2K V1, unfortunately I don't remember the original author:

"Calculating from the info thats given my best guess to the L2Kv1 brake down is aprox...
4.05 mg Androstadienone
2.4 mg none
2.84 mg androstAnone
8.1 mg DHEAS
8.4 mg alpha androstenol
"A lot of additional Molecule 'A'"
Possible 1 unlisted ingredient
Possible 1 secret ingredient
With the "25% increase -none" I subtracted 12.5% equally from both none types, it could be more changes in androstAnone or vice versa. Alpha dreams website says the original Alpha Maschio had 29 mg per bottle (Did Chris ever give an updated number?) From whats calculated here L2kv1 has potentially 25.79mg of ingredients disclosed. There is 3.21 or more if using 29mg as a reference point distributed to Molecule A/alpha-THDOC and any secret ingredients. V2 has 31.5mg thats disclosed and what looks like some secret ingredients used for steering so my best guess is that both v1 and v2 are not too far off from having between 32-35mg of ingredients."

I remembered this. I screenshot it from Ostrich Twisted journal

[He-Mone]

I really want to get my hands on L2k and this might be a way to do it, given my bad luck ordering from AD.   

Just hope the formula on the spreadsheet is correct.

Did you see Dsouza is selling a bottle of L2K in the trading post section?

[Phero_SA]

With this list I kind of made my own version. I did add some Androsterone, because I am not natural bossy. I did add a bit of Beta Androstenol, because I thought that could be the secret ingredien. And I did replace Molecule A by some other ingredient, which works like a physical inhibitor. (Quite often women do try to point my attention to their crotch, when I wear it.)

What's the name of this molecule? Care to share it

[Phero_SA]

Wow interesting

So is the Saw Palmetto in suppliment form or from the fruit itself

Maybe I'll whip up a batch and test it