I've a few of these unscented for about 6 years, and I'll be honest, I can't figure them out.
I've worn small doses and super high doses like 8 pumps. I don't really see many reactions from the people around me/targets
The way it affects me though, is it makes me very closed off. I'm in my head and not really engaging, especially in groups.
I really wanted to like this mone after the reviews on the old forum, but I just can't find anything good about it.
I'll try the regular Nude Alpha version at some point instead to see the comparison. Did anyone else have success with this mone?
I have both and always had good experience with NA but not so much with the gel. Gotta wait for warmer weather so I can break out NAG. SXD-9 and what little I have left of my OD sample.
I have both. NA oil is a wonderfull blend, probably the one I used the most over the last 4 years. NAG is a dude for me. Give me headache and nothing from people around me.
Quote from: Johnny Fever on Feb 13, 2024, 07:51 AMI have both and always had good experience with NA but not so much with the gel. Gotta wait for warmer weather so I can break out NAG. SXD-9 and what little I have left of my OD sample.
Quote from: Alphonso on Feb 13, 2024, 01:39 PMI have both. NA oil is a wonderfull blend, probably the one I used the most over the last 4 years. NAG is a dude for me. Give me headache and nothing from people around me.
Yeah it definitely seems like NA is still popular but I don't see many successful reports about NAG unfortunately
Been wearing half a pump of NAG with 1-2 sprays of Cohesion and 1-2 sprays of Xist. I apply the cover scent first, then the gel, then the sprays.
Although I got some pretty decent hits, now that you mention the introversion it definitely took more of an effort to be social.
Maybe a social or playful product like Bliss or Love Boat could help counteract that, but then the sheer amount of mones is starting to get quite excessive.
Maybe Evolve would be a good boost.
I have yet to see success with my NAG
Does anyone know what's in it?
Quote from: Ryan1991 on Feb 20, 2024, 10:45 AMAlthough I got some pretty decent hits, now that you mention the introversion it definitely took more of an effort to be social.
Maybe a social or playful product like Bliss or Love Boat could help counteract that, but then the sheer amount of mones is starting to get quite excessive.
Have you tried the Cohesion and Xist as a combo by themselves without the NAG?
I've used socials like Shine and Bliss with NAG and I'd say a few things about it:
1.) It does mitigate the introverted aspect somewhat at the beginning, but within a couple hours the NAG wins out.
2.) If you find yourself crashing after a particular social, and then combine that with NAG, the crash the day after might be rough. It is for me.
3.) If a social is needed to buffer the NAG, especially in an already social/bonding mix like with Cohesion and Xist, then is there even an upside to the NAG at that point? Might be better off just using Evolve + Xist/Cohesion as otherwise it seems like a waste of many mones trying to get an effect that seems lackluster overall
Quote from: Merovingian on Feb 23, 2024, 01:10 PMI have yet to see success with my NAG
How do you apply it? Dosage? Unscented? Combo or solo?
I have NAG and used it a few times, It's a LOT stronger than the oil, so I have to maybe use half a pump.
NA as a whole again is to use as an imprinter, and a long term kind of thing. Of course in clubs and bars it doesn't really do much unless you expose your target to it for a longer period of time. I went to a club with this on and sat near a few ladies, and within about 20 minutes of so, they started noticing me and started chatting me up.
Again, I've tried this in a coffee shop and nothing like that happened. I did get the big eyes of a lady sitting next to me when I began talking to her for a while. Got her contact info and got ghosted lol. But she really seemed to like my company and lingered just like NA oil does.
Would I use this as a main mone? Not sure, I'd need to test this more, but honestly I think this is a better one to use when you're already in a relationship and want to get her latching on to you more. I think NA oil can be used like this as well and maybe more in the club/bar scene. But I think there are better products for that.
If anyone still has NAG I'd just keep testing for a month or two.
Quote from: CJ_W on Mar 03, 2024, 11:27 PMI have NAG and used it a few times, It's a LOT stronger than the oil, so I have to maybe use half a pump.
NA as a whole again is to use as an imprinter, and a long term kind of thing. Of course in clubs and bars it doesn't really do much unless you expose your target to it for a longer period of time. I went to a club with this on and sat near a few ladies, and within about 20 minutes of so, they started noticing me and started chatting me up.
Again, I've tried this in a coffee shop and nothing like that happened. I did get the big eyes of a lady sitting next to me when I began talking to her for a while. Got her contact info and got ghosted lol. But she really seemed to like my company and lingered just like NA oil does.
Would I use this as a main mone? Not sure, I'd need to test this more, but honestly I think this is a better one to use when you're already in a relationship and want to get her latching on to you more. I think NA oil can be used like this as well and maybe more in the club/bar scene. But I think there are better products for that.
If anyone still has NAG I'd just keep testing for a month or two.
That's interesting. I've used anywhere from a third of a pump to like 10 pumps. For me it doesn't do anything.
Clubs and parties don't mix well with me and mones if it's anything sexual or too intimate bonding. I'll find a circle cleared around me and my party within 20 mins of being in my phero cloud.
NAG I've more tried to use with restaurants and bar dates. Never did anything by itself. With Voodoo it did bring girls back. Like I would meet with them like 3-4 times within a week and a half to 2 weeks. But they weren't necessarily doing so with romantic interest
Pherofolk,
So NAG was the mone that made me make a profile to post on the original PT (because it was having unintended consequences and I was trying to see if someone had ideas on how to navigate them). I can safely say after years of use several times a week (always 1 pump) that it is an effective product and is very consistent, but it requires two things in my experience: (1) exposure; and (2) congruence.
You can and will see immediate effects from NAG, but not the imprinting ones. For example, respect and authority tend to be immediate for me (within the first 60 seconds). I have never been called "sir" by women or "boss" by men more times in my life than while using NAG. The most other most notable effect I've experienced is the velcro-effect and it is kind of hard to describe, but if you start a conversation with someone, it feels like they will converse with you indefinitely until you end the conversation or "allow" them to go (they will say things like, "I really must be going... I should get back to work... etc. repeatedly, but not actually leave unless you say, "you should definitely do that," "good idea," or the like and even then it's like they second guess their decision (almost like they want you to want them to stay)). It's like they need your approval.
The not immediate effect - the whole reason I tried NAG and that other people likely do too - is the imprinting. And in my experience, that part takes exposure and congruence. There seems to be a positive correlation between exposure and the amount they think about you (for example, if I go on a date with a girl for 4+ hours, she will tell me things like "I've never felt this way about someone before," "I can't stop thinking about you," "there's something different about you," etc.) like... two to three days later. But, these effects are strongest when they reach out to me first - as if I sent a text after the date saying it was fun and we should do it again sometime, but nothing else in the days that follow. My hypothesis on that has always been that they are constantly thinking about me, but it feels natural to them because I am not instigating the thought with a communication (I have never asked, but that makes sense to me).
However, the other side of that coin is congruence. One of the major drawbacks - IMHO - of NAG is that congruence means keeping your mouth shut and saying really important things when you have to speak. It is frustratingly hard to explain this one, but the best way to do it is to say: imagine if the person you are speaking to will remember every word you say obsessively. If you say something negative or arguably negative, there will be 10x the reaction and they will never forget. But if you say something positive: same thing. In my experience, women can and will fall in love with you if you are the real deal (not just trying to sleep with them, etc.) and you actively engage them in conversation (using just open ended questions and not talking about yourself unless they ask you - even then, keep your answers concise). The reason I say this is a major drawback is that most of your conversations will necessarily need to be one-sided and you cannot control what people hear you say, only what you say. So people will be excited to talk to you, but not excited to hear you talk. And they might interpret what you say in the most a-backwards way possible.
There are also some negative long-term side effects. For example, there are numerous women in my life (not even just romantic interests) that view me adversarially and try to compete with me. I do not understand where this comes from other than NAG and do not engage any women in that way, let alone these women. I suppose it is possible they are trying to "test" me as a mate from a biological perspective, but I have not even expressed interest in many of these women, just treated them with respect and common courtesy. It would be easy to write it off as "it's just those women," but they only do it with me so that ain't it champ. Another long term negative side effect is women's sleep. In my experience, they will struggle with sleep heavily and unless this is just a way more common thing with women in my country than ever before, I am thinking it is NAG. My confirmation bias on these two is that when I have stopped for periods of time those issues seem to dissipate.
As for the oil - I have never seen effects. It is literally the same product (IIRC Gary chimed in on this) and I know the oil came first, but it is always a bag of nadda for me every time I wear the oil (almost out of the bottle at this point). Maybe that is because people are used to the gel sig on me or maybe it is because I am not using so many drops (IIRC, Gary said a pump is like eight drops of the oil, so that really could be it TBH). Or maybe the gel is smoother. I am not sure, but that has been my experience.
NAG is a concentrated version of NA Oil. So a few drops of NA oil probably is not enough, I usually used 4-6 drops
Quote from: CJ_W on Mar 27, 2024, 02:44 PMNAG is a concentrated version of NA Oil. So a few drops of NA oil probably is not enough, I usually used 4-6 drops
I know I usually default for 6 - 8 drops. Looking at AS3's Fall in Love mix he mentioned a 3-inch strip of NA when in the roller bottle. I wonder what that equates to in drops?
I ran today half of Gary Tester bottle of NAG. I didn't find any difference between NAG and NA. I think I need more testing for NAG or lower my dose to see the difference between two.
Quote from: Johnny Fever on Mar 27, 2024, 05:28 PMQuote from: CJ_W on Mar 27, 2024, 02:44 PMNAG is a concentrated version of NA Oil. So a few drops of NA oil probably is not enough, I usually used 4-6 drops
I know I usually default for 6 - 8 drops. Looking at AS3's Fall in Love mix he mentioned a 3-inch strip of NA when in the roller bottle. I wonder what that equates to in drops?
I honestly dont think it matters that much, The roller is kinda scuffed anyway, when I had the oil roller I just took it out and used a dropper.
His combo was NA+A1+Glace right? Glace was a social if I remember right, so you could probably use HS in it's place. (I could be wrong but yeah) I think the interaction with A1 and those two together was the most important part. A1 being the Lynchpin of the combo.
Quote from: sigma on Mar 27, 2024, 10:49 PMI ran today half of Gary Tester bottle of NAG. I didn't find any difference between NAG and NA. I think I need more testing for NAG or lower my dose to see the difference between two.
Where did you test it? How much did you take? How long did you test it? did you talk to the same women more than once for a longer period of time?
Quote from: CJ_W on Mar 28, 2024, 07:02 AMQuote from: sigma on Mar 27, 2024, 10:49 PMI ran today half of Gary Tester bottle of NAG. I didn't find any difference between NAG and NA. I think I need more testing for NAG or lower my dose to see the difference between two.
Where did you test it? How much did you take? How long did you test it? did you talk to the same women more than once for a longer period of time?
At dance class. Around 10-15 pump of tester spray each glob is very small for tester. I did only for one day so conclude result on one day not good idea. But, NAG shows same power as N.A. It gave me same lovey dovey eyes and warmth from women. I was feeling I was wearing N.A. I small difference I found was young women were showing bit more good reaction.
oh ok great, Dance class is a good place to test...although 10-15 pumps is a bit much, even for tester. I'm assuming you used the whoe bottle? You probably should have used 3 pumps and spread it out over a few weeks, especially with N.A. it's a good mone to use less of at a time.
Quote from: CJ_W on Mar 28, 2024, 03:54 PMI'm assuming you used the whoe bottle?
Half of tester bottle. Yeah, I used bit more. But, Didn't faced any ghosting. Felt like I was wearing regular N.A. oil.
Quote from: sigma on Mar 28, 2024, 10:25 PMQuote from: CJ_W on Mar 28, 2024, 03:54 PMI'm assuming you used the whoe bottle?
Half of tester bottle. Yeah, I used bit more. But, Didn't faced any ghosting. Felt like I was wearing regular N.A. oil.
Try like half a pump for a few outings then a full pump after that. More is not always better. Especially with NA. I think you wasted a lot of product. What are you rushing for?
Quote from: CJ_W on Mar 29, 2024, 06:57 AMQuote from: sigma on Mar 28, 2024, 10:25 PMQuote from: CJ_W on Mar 28, 2024, 03:54 PMI'm assuming you used the whoe bottle?
Half of tester bottle. Yeah, I used bit more. But, Didn't faced any ghosting. Felt like I was wearing regular N.A. oil.
Try like half a pump for a few outings then a full pump after that. More is not always better. Especially with NA. I think you wasted a lot of product. What are you rushing for?
So this my speculation that I increased my tolerance for N.A. means to see the same result of 1 or 2 drops of N.A. which I used get in past I need to apply more pheromone. In the past 3 drops were overwhelming for me. In past If I applied N.A. 3 drops in consecutive days I used to get fever. But now I can go upto 8-10 drops easily without OD and ghosting seeing the positive result from women. I back this speculation by reading the reports of Old pherotruth where people used to go 10-15 drops easily and some other people called that OD land for them. You can find those reports specifically for LAL products on old pherotruth.
Quote from: CJ_W on Mar 28, 2024, 07:01 AMQuote from: Johnny Fever on Mar 27, 2024, 05:28 PMQuote from: CJ_W on Mar 27, 2024, 02:44 PMNAG is a concentrated version of NA Oil. So a few drops of NA oil probably is not enough, I usually used 4-6 drops
I know I usually default for 6 - 8 drops. Looking at AS3's Fall in Love mix he mentioned a 3-inch strip of NA when in the roller bottle. I wonder what that equates to in drops?
I honestly dont think it matters that much, The roller is kinda scuffed anyway, when I had the oil roller I just took it out and used a dropper.
His combo was NA+A1+Glace right? Glace was a social if I remember right, so you could probably use HS in it's place. (I could be wrong but yeah) I think the interaction with A1 and those two together was the most important part. A1 being the Lynchpin of the combo.
A good replacement for Glace is a mix of Hypnotica/Dirty Primitive in a ratio 3:1.You can mix it in one bottle.Add a few drops to your Na/A1/mix for a potent combo.
Quote from: Wildsau on Mar 29, 2024, 07:16 PMA good replacement for Glace is a mix of Hypnotica/Dirty Primitive in a ratio 3:1.You can mix it in one bottle.Add a few drops to your Na/A1/mix for a potent combo.
Glace was gone by the time I started, so I'm really intrigued by this and love to try it (especially if it softens the
seriousness NAG sometimes has). I can safely say that adding DP to NAG had a positive effect (never tried that combo with A1 because wouldn't A1 be counter-intuitive to the DP?), but adding Hypnotica? At that point you've created a new blend (NA/A1/DP/H), no?
What's your application? When I combo NAG/A1 it is usually one pump NAG + 1-2 drops of 10ml A1. DP is 4mg Andro and 2mg of Cops so I'd probably only go one drop (or swipe) if I am adding that to NAG as a base. Then three drops of Hypno? I am game to try it, that just sounds like a f-ton of mones.
Quote from: Wildsau on Mar 29, 2024, 07:16 PMA good replacement for Glace is a mix of Hypnotica/Dirty Primitive in a ratio 3:1.You can mix it in one bottle.Add a few drops to your Na/A1/mix for a potent combo.
Gonna give this a try at some point
I have mixed both in one bottle in a ratio 3/1 Hypnotica/Dp.I usually add 2 drops of this mix.But you can add also one dab of Dp+1-2drops of Hypnotica.
Quote from: kwow on Mar 14, 2024, 01:02 AMQuote from: CJ_W on Mar 03, 2024, 11:27 PMI have NAG and used it a few times, It's a LOT stronger than the oil, so I have to maybe use half a pump.
NA as a whole again is to use as an imprinter, and a long term kind of thing. Of course in clubs and bars it doesn't really do much unless you expose your target to it for a longer period of time. I went to a club with this on and sat near a few ladies, and within about 20 minutes of so, they started noticing me and started chatting me up.
Again, I've tried this in a coffee shop and nothing like that happened. I did get the big eyes of a lady sitting next to me when I began talking to her for a while. Got her contact info and got ghosted lol. But she really seemed to like my company and lingered just like NA oil does.
Would I use this as a main mone? Not sure, I'd need to test this more, but honestly I think this is a better one to use when you're already in a relationship and want to get her latching on to you more. I think NA oil can be used like this as well and maybe more in the club/bar scene. But I think there are better products for that.
If anyone still has NAG I'd just keep testing for a month or two.
That's interesting. I've used anywhere from a third of a pump to like 10 pumps. For me it doesn't do anything.
Clubs and parties don't mix well with me and mones if it's anything sexual or too intimate bonding. I'll find a circle cleared around me and my party within 20 mins of being in my phero cloud.
NAG I've more tried to use with restaurants and bar dates. Never did anything by itself. With Voodoo it did bring girls back. Like I would meet with them like 3-4 times within a week and a half to 2 weeks. But they weren't necessarily doing so with romantic interest
Sorry I missed this post. You mentioned you cleared the floor around you for 20 metere in a circle....you were wearing too much.
I'm doing more testing of it so maybe in a few months I'll have more data. Otherwise, I'd suggest saving it for when you have alone time with you and the gf.
Quote from: CJ_W on Jun 21, 2024, 10:29 AMSorry I missed this post. You mentioned you cleared the floor around you for 20 metere in a circle....you were wearing too much.
Even at 1spray of something like the old TUTH or would do the same at clubs for me. Didn't mean NAG specifically for this particular part. There's also the consensus that women will move away because they either feel confused at their feelings or frustrated if you don't make a move.
But NAG just does nothing for me at a tiny drop to many pumps, only negative self effect of zoning everyone out and being in my own head because I just don't care.
Heard a few people have inconsistent reports with NAG themselves vs the oil so I'll be trying the oil soon
Quote from: kwow on Jul 01, 2024, 12:56 PMQuote from: CJ_W on Jun 21, 2024, 10:29 AMSorry I missed this post. You mentioned you cleared the floor around you for 20 metere in a circle....you were wearing too much.
Even at 1spray of something like the old TUTH or would do the same at clubs for me. Didn't mean NAG specifically for this particular part. There's also the consensus that women will move away because they either feel confused at their feelings or frustrated if you don't make a move.
But NAG just does nothing for me at a tiny drop to many pumps, only negative self effect of zoning everyone out and being in my own head because I just don't care.
Heard a few people have inconsistent reports with NAG themselves vs the oil so I'll be trying the oil soon
That's strange, because NAG has effects with me when I go out, but I tried it with HS (a social) as As3 and others tested that out a lot on the old forums (the combo was NA(g) a Social(some used glace, others didnt doesn't really matter) and A1. But others just used the NA with the social. The social brings the ladies to you(or at least lets you be social with them) and the NA keeps them.
Only thing is that combo, NA(g) /A1/ Social, is pretty expensive.
If you have a bottle of NA(g) I'd just use the bottle before getting the oil, if you feel like you HAVE to get another product, get a social, honestly, A Social product is something everyone should have anyway, even if they don't have other products.
anyway I'm still testing it though so I'll see later on, over time if it really works and what situations it works in...I've had some VERY interesting experiences with it so far(as in I would have been able to easily get laid the same night or at least later on that week if other external issues weren't in the way), I'll be testing it more in unrestrained ways later.
EDIT: BRO WAAAIT waitwaitwaitwaitwaitwaitwait....
I just skimmed through your journal.... you keep mixing VOODOO with NAG. . . .
It looks like you're mad scientisting. you have one entry where you used NAG with 9 drops of... voodoo wth... Then 100 MCG A1. . . .
You're ruining your data. I'd say take a couple of weeks off of mones, then test NA(g) ALONE for two weeks (while writing your reports) then maybe add a social if you have for two more weeks(if you don't, dont worry about it) then with A1 (30-40mcg is just enough)
Quote from: CJ_W on Jul 02, 2024, 07:42 AMIf you have a bottle of NA(g) I'd just use the bottle before getting the oil, if you feel like you HAVE to get another product, get a social, honestly, A Social product is something everyone should have anyway, even if they don't have other products.
Yeah I have a lot of socials. Built quite the stack since I got in the game back in the AD days almost 15 years ago (I feel old typing that out)
Quote from: CJ_W on Jul 02, 2024, 07:42 AMYou're ruining your data. I'd say take a couple of weeks off of mones, then test NA(g) ALONE for two weeks (while writing your reports)
I definitely tested NAG solo a lot before combining it. I had four 30ml bottles and been testing for 6 years. Down to the last bottle now and testing it with Voodoo and A1 because I've also tested them vigorously solo so I know what they do individually.
Voodoo was my product to use as a "not so good but have it on hand" replacement for glace in AS3s fallout mix since I found my glace to not have much of an effect. This is actually going to be updated with Hypnotica.
Quote from: CJ_W on Jul 02, 2024, 07:42 AMIt looks like you're mad scientisting. you have one entry where you used NAG with 9 drops of... voodoo wth... Then 100 MCG A1. . . .
So as I mentioned, I wasn't getting anything with NAG. So did a lot of testing across a broad range to cover all the bases. Started with a pea size, getting all the way up to 10 pumps. Bear in mind this was as gradual changes over a few years. But it was being done because there just weren't any effects.
So nothing but introversion with NAG alone, so let's test in combo. Some Pits work better in combos than by themselves, let's see if that works. That was the thinking.
100mcg of A1 was a new testing measure for me after seeing many other users report on it. Back in the day 30-50mcg was considered the sweet spot. Decided to test the theory since, again, I've tested these 3 mones quite a lot solo, and combined as a poor man's As3's fallout mix
I sure do miss you guys, I've finally found you since we lost the original forum. 10 pumps of nag is wild. I've gone as high as 2 but usually one full pump or less. For the oil I've gone as high as 12 but I typically stay in the 4-6 range. Na with dp is awesome. UT if I could only get 2 pheros, I'd go with na and od combo. I absolutely love the gel but from what I've seen the oil smacks a little harder. If I had both I'd use the gel for everyday wear and the oil for like date night or when you already know she's coming over
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9/29/2024
This week we were rejected by Fav1. She says she's still in a no dating phase, and that when we danced together at karaoke she was really just feeling the music and stuff. Which is obv bs, but we're really gonna blame this on na oil not being strong enough. We'll up the ante with na gel like we did with Girl1. The story with Girl1 is that when we first met I was rocking na gel and she asked for my snap even though I was doing nothing for it or trying anything at all with her.
I gave her my snap and she eventually thought to make an attempt to bag me when we had a get-together at Friend house. She said she didn't go through with trying anything because I wasn't paying her any attention the whole night. It was pretty obvious to me that she was into na gel but I don't really have game and I wasn't interested in her like that at all. So I let communication with her die down for a time.
Months later, I hit her around the time that I have to shave my beard, down bad, trying to get some before I'm forced to shave due to my shaving waiver being expired. I come in flirty through text, I tell her I'm stressed or whatever and she says she wouldn't mind giving me a massage. I tell her the massage I need is elsewhere, jokingly, then I try to change the topic. She shoots back "Look man, anything for a friend, I got you." So in my head, it's game on, I'm about to get my dck wet. I tell her I'm omw, and head over. 0 mones on. I go in we chit chat for a bit and I make my move. I say "So what were we texting about.." as I lean in, almost on top of her.
Her eyes go wide, and she's completely taken aback. Realization washes over her face as confusion takes over mine, and I'm taken aback. Apparently she didn't completely realize what I meant when I said I need a massage elsewhere, or whatever, somehow wires got crossed, essentially.
She hits me with "Dude I didn't even know you saw me that way, I'm so sorry." So at that point, I back off. Say my goodbyes and head back to my dorm. Not embarrassed, because I know full-on that she's attracted to me, I just shrug it off essentially.
Once I'm back in my dorm she starts texting me "I'm so sorry, I didn't mean to lead you on like that. But everything was just happening so fast and I didn't even know that you liked me like that." I'm like "It's all good, just miscommunication I guess." then she goes on "That's actually been a dream of mine for MONTHS, and if you had tried that a couple months ago I definitely would have gone through with it. But I don't really date or sleep with coworkers anymore.." I'm like "All good." Then I call it a night.
A month goes by, we've seen each other at work a few times and I made the friendship as normal as it was before I faceplanted in my seduction attempt, and I text her and ask if she wants to hang out. She's down, so I grab na oil, apply 5 drops (which was my max at the time, now anything over 3 drops I OD fs, my body chemistry has been changing a lot I guess.)
I go over and we shoot the shit for a couple hours just having fun, talking, warming conversations etc. I go back to my dorm and call it a night. The next day, I go over to her place again, but this time instead of na oil, I throw on the gel.
Don't remember my dosing for this back then, but now I can only use ⅓ of a pump before I OD, so..cheers to that.
But we hang out, and it's kinda the same vibe but close to the end of the night we start wrestling and shit, still just having fun. Then we get back to talking, she gets around to telling me that she hasn't gotten laid since November (so about 8 months) and I go "DAMNNN, that's steep. I hate that for you." I take this as my queue to leave because I was really not interested in going all the way with her. When I tried that first time, I was kinda just down bad and wanted a quick fck before I shaved my beard off. I realized that I truly didn't even want her like that after the fact, but I hadn't communicated that to her at all, so I guess in her mind she was thinking I still wanted her. So as I'm getting up to leave I say "Alright, I'mma head back to my dorm, call it a night." She gets up and starts blocking the door, playfully of course.
So we wrestle a little bit more and I throw her onto her bed. Then as I'm leaving I say "Damnn, since November? That's tough. You know you had a chance to break that streak when I made my move but you were all like "nOoo, pLeAsE i dOn'T dO tHaT wiTh cOwOrkErs" You shoulda took your chance when you had it man." ← I wrote that like that because I was kinda mocking her and making her sound silly. I said that then I left and walked back to my dorm.
Soon as I'm back in my room, sitting in my bed she texts me "So why not now?" I reply "Wdym" She says "You said I had the chance like a month ago, why not now?" I say "It's late and I gotta get up for work in the morning." She hits me back "That's a good excuse." Then I go to bed. This whole thing turns into a month of her trying to sleep with me and get me in a relationship with her. And there's no other reason for this turnaround besides na gel. So, with that being said, all of this week, I'm gonna be working with na gel to see if I can get the same results with Fav1. Even if for no other reason than to get back.
Quote from: JackedByRose333 on Sep 30, 2024, 06:31 PM9/29/2024
This whole thing turns into a month of her trying to sleep with me and get me in a relationship with her. And there's no other reason for this turnaround besides na gel.
I'm a NAG-stan, but never underestimate the power of telling a girl no when she wants to have sex with you. Girls - even unattractive ones - are not used to guys doing that and society repeatedly teaches them that men will screw anything that moves. She could have just been horny, thought of you, and then got sent into overdrive by the rejection.
It could also be what you think, just trying to be fair. Wanting a relationship with you before you guys have even had sex is definitely NAG-like to be fair.