OK a hail mary pass here.
Has anyone used the latest version and have they had any success with it. I have seen the other posts about about the early versions and how effective it was. Looking for more current updates on it. They are sending out thier ads and their pricing had went up and was possibly thinkig of pulling the trigger.
Quote from: Ultraf on Apr 09, 2024, 10:52 PMOK a hail mary pass here.
Has anyone used the latest version and have they had any success with it. I have seen the other posts about about the early versions and how effective it was. Looking for more current updates on it. They are sending out thier ads and their pricing had went up and was possibly thinkig of pulling the trigger.
Now you've reminded me. I have an LIIK V1 sitting upright in a dark cupboard since I bought it back in around 2019. Totally un-opened. I'm keen to give it a whirl. Hopefully it's vintage has been ageing nicely.
Quote from: Ultraf on Apr 09, 2024, 10:52 PMOK a hail mary pass here.
Has anyone used the latest version and have they had any success with it.
Yep, it works really well. Shipping isn't fast so be prepared to wait 2 weeks. It's a great product. Not the greatest for young women, but women 30 and up respond very well with it
Quote from: RussianWolf on Apr 10, 2024, 07:00 AMQuote from: Ultraf on Apr 09, 2024, 10:52 PMOK a hail mary pass here.
Has anyone used the latest version and have they had any success with it.
Yep, it works really well. Shipping isn't fast so be prepared to wait 2 weeks. It's a great product. Not the greatest for young women, but women 30 and up respond very well with it
This is V1 I assume? The women 30 and up are still hotties hb9 like L2k usually attracts?
Does it still have kino disinhibtion, verbal disinhibition, hot women opening you etc?
How well do you know it works? How far have you progressed with it? Can you give some examples?
Did you find the a1 levels to be higher or lower than previous years?
Quote from: Dsouza on Apr 10, 2024, 09:59 AMQuote from: RussianWolf on Apr 10, 2024, 07:00 AMQuote from: Ultraf on Apr 09, 2024, 10:52 PMOK a hail mary pass here.
Has anyone used the latest version and have they had any success with it.
Yep, it works really well. Shipping isn't fast so be prepared to wait 2 weeks. It's a great product. Not the greatest for young women, but women 30 and up respond very well with it
This is V1 I assume? The women 30 and up are still hotties hb9 like L2k usually attracts?
Does it still have kino disinhibtion, verbal disinhibition, hot women opening you etc?
How well do you know it works? How far have you progressed with it? Can you give some examples?
Did you find the a1 levels to be higher or lower than previous years?
I work exclusively with young women and I've found Possess works better on them with disinhibitiom and verbal communication and Sexual banter and innuendo.
L2K works on older women, say 28 and over.
I use it for work where I'll speak to over a hundred people/clients over a weekend. Men respect you and women want to talk to you. I haven't tried it on a date but from interacting with hundreds of women, I can definitely say its a winner.
I have just been a little more shy on pulling the trigger as the last 3 items I have dumped a good amount of money on has been duds for me. I am not sure if it is my signature changing with age or just the products changing. I have not heard of any one really excited about a stand alone product in some time.
Honestly if you guys want kino disinhibition you may want to give all kinds of single molecules a try.
There are no better social proof than to be touched by women FIRST.
That is really what set L2k 2014 and L2k 2018 apart from the rest.
Quote from: Ultraf on Apr 10, 2024, 05:04 PMI have just been a little more shy on pulling the trigger as the last 3 items I have dumped a good amount of money on has been duds for me. I am not sure if it is my signature changing with age or just the products changing. I have not heard of any one really excited about a stand alone product in some time.
honestly, vendors should offer to sell samples.
Quote from: RussianWolf on Apr 10, 2024, 07:00 AMQuote from: Ultraf on Apr 09, 2024, 10:52 PMOK a hail mary pass here.
Has anyone used the latest version and have they had any success with it.
Yep, it works really well. Shipping isn't fast so be prepared to wait 2 weeks. It's a great product. Not the greatest for young women, but women 30 and up respond very well with it
Interesting Mr Russian Wolf.I have L2k V1 bought in 2024,The receipt says V1 according to some users who bought from Alpha Dream Before.Theres rumour that L2k V1 is designed for younger woman if thats true? Hit time isnt instant right althought website claims instant attraction XD
Quote from: SigmaWolf on Apr 14, 2024, 01:09 AMQuote from: RussianWolf on Apr 10, 2024, 07:00 AMQuote from: Ultraf on Apr 09, 2024, 10:52 PMOK a hail mary pass here.
Has anyone used the latest version and have they had any success with it.
Yep, it works really well. Shipping isn't fast so be prepared to wait 2 weeks. It's a great product. Not the greatest for young women, but women 30 and up respond very well with it
Interesting Mr Russian Wolf.I have L2k V1 bought in 2024,The receipt says V1 according to some users who bought from Alpha Dream Before.Theres rumour that L2k V1 is designed for younger woman if thats true? Hit time isnt instant right althought website claims instant attraction XD
I'd love it if you could test your 2024 v1 bottle and report back.
This is an interesting discussion! In my opinion LIIK (old) is the king, even if it doesn't work well on every girl. It's the only blend which i noticed a real addictive effect on the girl you are dealing with.
I'm really curious about other users experiences with the newer version or maybe trying it by myself even if here in Europe, AD product are not easy to get anymore! I still own a little bit of the 2014 version closed and conserved well only for the special situations! :D
Quote from: Max Grey on Apr 16, 2024, 02:41 PMThis is an interesting discussion! In my opinion LIIK (old) is the king, even if it doesn't work well on every girl. It's the only blend which i noticed a real addictive effect on the girl you are dealing with.
I'm really curious about other users experiences with the newer version or maybe trying it by myself even if here in Europe, AD product are not easy to get anymore! I still own a little bit of the 2014 version closed and conserved well only for the special situations! :D
Your 2014 l2k must of expired of an ingredient must of expired by now, no? It's been 10 years.
Quote from: Dsouza on Apr 20, 2024, 03:14 PMYour 2014 l2k must of expired of an ingredient must of expired by now, no? It's been 10 years.
I don't really know honestly! The only thing i noticed is that the liquid inside the bottle became a little bit muddy. But as the effects, i used it the last summer and had a huge effect on the targer i had at the time, the same i noticed in the past. Nothing to declare on an other person which i use it with! I could test the new one and see the difference, even if i'm no more in ckntact with the LIIK receptive girl at the moment :D
Would anyone be willing to part ways with their bottle of L2K for a price?
what about 2014 Alpha maschio? ive stillgot a sample vial. Still fresh? Im also rationing 13rd of a bottle of 2017 M3X, but yes, r these things still even fresh years later?
Quote from: mahalo silver on Jul 25, 2025, 03:07 AMwhat about 2014 Alpha maschio? ive stillgot a sample vial. Still fresh? Im also rationing 13rd of a bottle of 2017 M3X, but yes, r these things still even fresh years later?
The AM will still work, but if you're worried about using old mones you can sell it to me.
If you guys all know the L2k , AM , and Glace formulas WTF is no one re-producing these golden gems?
What's stopping the best pheromone scientists from conjuring them up and re-selling them , albeit to a smaller group in today's market?
Quote from: Dsouza on Jul 31, 2025, 07:52 PMIf you guys all know the L2k , AM , and Glace formulas WTF is no one re-producing these golden gems?
What's stopping the best pheromone scientists from conjuring them up and re-selling them , albeit to a smaller group in today's market?
whiskeyzulumike the owner of Royal Pheromones has talked about making a recreation of L2K. I told him to call it Permit 2 Slay. Not sure how close it would be without using the same sources of molecules as Chris but I'd love to give it a try
Quote from: He-Mone on Jul 31, 2025, 09:45 PMwhiskeyzulumike the owner of Royal Pheromones has talked about making a recreation of L2K. I told him to call it Permit 2 Slay. Not sure how close it would be without using the same sources of molecules as Chris but I'd love to give it a try
i look forward to trying this when it comes out. I bought l2k at the end of 2018 when i just found out about pheromones and just kind of went wild not focusing on outcomes etc. all i can remember is it made me feel smooth. if this comes out again i'd buy a 30ml bottle even though i have a bag full of top notch mones that i barely get a chance to use. I hope he doesnt name it permit to slay though lol. sounds kinda gay.
Quote from: He-Mone on Jul 31, 2025, 09:45 PMQuote from: Dsouza on Jul 31, 2025, 07:52 PMIf you guys all know the L2k , AM , and Glace formulas WTF is no one re-producing these golden gems?
What's stopping the best pheromone scientists from conjuring them up and re-selling them , albeit to a smaller group in today's market?
whiskeyzulumike the owner of Royal Pheromones has talked about making a recreation of L2K. I told him to call it Permit 2 Slay. Not sure how close it would be without using the same sources of molecules as Chris but I'd love to give it a try
Can we get this project going so it's out on the market to buy before the winter? I am very excited to hear this news. Perhaps the owner needs to hear a few words of enticement and wisdom from a 30 year veteran like myself, who has used over 200+ products and considers L2k 2014 in his top 5.
I would also like to have a few words with you in private PM over this. I'd like to see this project come before years end and on the market asap.
Edit: 1 HR later. I've contacted Royal Pheromones and suggested the project be started without delay asap. There is a huge audience out there that would buy into L2k 2014 even if it wasn't 100% identical to the AD 2014 l2k formula.
Edit: 6 HRS later. Anybody have Am or L2k in Actual L&S scent still around? Would you be willing to donate it for the purpose of recreating L2k going forward? I'm asking because the potential creators of the new formula have no yardstick to measure L&S by and they need it.
PM me if you are willing to donate it.
DSOUZA
Quote from: Dsouza on Aug 01, 2025, 02:06 PMQuote from: He-Mone on Jul 31, 2025, 09:45 PMQuote from: Dsouza on Jul 31, 2025, 07:52 PMIf you guys all know the L2k , AM , and Glace formulas WTF is no one re-producing these golden gems?
What's stopping the best pheromone scientists from conjuring them up and re-selling them , albeit to a smaller group in today's market?
whiskeyzulumike the owner of Royal Pheromones has talked about making a recreation of L2K. I told him to call it Permit 2 Slay. Not sure how close it would be without using the same sources of molecules as Chris but I'd love to give it a try
Can we get this project going so it's out on the market to buy before the winter? I am very excited to hear this news. Perhaps the owner needs to hear a few words of enticement and wisdom from a 30 year veteran like myself, who has used over 200+ products and considers L2k 2014 in his top 5.
I would also like to have a few words with you in private PM over this. I'd like to see this project come before years end and on the market asap.
Edit: 1 HR later. I've contacted Royal Pheromones and suggested the project be started without delay asap. There is a huge audience out there that would buy into L2k 2014 even if it wasn't 100% identical to the AD 2014 l2k formula.
Edit: 6 HRS later. Anybody have Am or L2k in Actual L&S scent still around? Would you be willing to donate it for the purpose of recreating L2k going forward? I'm asking because the potential creators of the new formula have no yardstick to measure L&S by and they need it.
PM me if you are willing to donate it.
DSOUZA
Feel free to DM me, but for the record I'm not affiliated with Royal Pheromones, I just chat with the owner on the discord sometimes. And I do have a third of a bottle of 2013 AM for comparison purposes.
Quote from: He-Mone on Aug 02, 2025, 11:33 AMQuote from: Dsouza on Aug 01, 2025, 02:06 PMQuote from: He-Mone on Jul 31, 2025, 09:45 PMQuote from: Dsouza on Jul 31, 2025, 07:52 PMIf you guys all know the L2k , AM , and Glace formulas WTF is no one re-producing these golden gems?
What's stopping the best pheromone scientists from conjuring them up and re-selling them , albeit to a smaller group in today's market?
whiskeyzulumike the owner of Royal Pheromones has talked about making a recreation of L2K. I told him to call it Permit 2 Slay. Not sure how close it would be without using the same sources of molecules as Chris but I'd love to give it a try
Can we get this project going so it's out on the market to buy before the winter? I am very excited to hear this news. Perhaps the owner needs to hear a few words of enticement and wisdom from a 30 year veteran like myself, who has used over 200+ products and considers L2k 2014 in his top 5.
I would also like to have a few words with you in private PM over this. I'd like to see this project come before years end and on the market asap.
Edit: 1 HR later. I've contacted Royal Pheromones and suggested the project be started without delay asap. There is a huge audience out there that would buy into L2k 2014 even if it wasn't 100% identical to the AD 2014 l2k formula.
Edit: 6 HRS later. Anybody have Am or L2k in Actual L&S scent still around? Would you be willing to donate it for the purpose of recreating L2k going forward? I'm asking because the potential creators of the new formula have no yardstick to measure L&S by and they need it.
PM me if you are willing to donate it.
DSOUZA
Feel free to DM me, but for the record I'm not affiliated with Royal Pheromones, I just chat with the owner on the discord sometimes. And I do have a third of a bottle of 2013 AM for comparison purposes.
Is it in L&S?
Quote from: Dsouza on Aug 02, 2025, 01:20 PMQuote from: He-Mone on Aug 02, 2025, 11:33 AMQuote from: Dsouza on Aug 01, 2025, 02:06 PMQuote from: He-Mone on Jul 31, 2025, 09:45 PMQuote from: Dsouza on Jul 31, 2025, 07:52 PMIf you guys all know the L2k , AM , and Glace formulas WTF is no one re-producing these golden gems?
What's stopping the best pheromone scientists from conjuring them up and re-selling them , albeit to a smaller group in today's market?
whiskeyzulumike the owner of Royal Pheromones has talked about making a recreation of L2K. I told him to call it Permit 2 Slay. Not sure how close it would be without using the same sources of molecules as Chris but I'd love to give it a try
Can we get this project going so it's out on the market to buy before the winter? I am very excited to hear this news. Perhaps the owner needs to hear a few words of enticement and wisdom from a 30 year veteran like myself, who has used over 200+ products and considers L2k 2014 in his top 5.
I would also like to have a few words with you in private PM over this. I'd like to see this project come before years end and on the market asap.
Edit: 1 HR later. I've contacted Royal Pheromones and suggested the project be started without delay asap. There is a huge audience out there that would buy into L2k 2014 even if it wasn't 100% identical to the AD 2014 l2k formula.
Edit: 6 HRS later. Anybody have Am or L2k in Actual L&S scent still around? Would you be willing to donate it for the purpose of recreating L2k going forward? I'm asking because the potential creators of the new formula have no yardstick to measure L&S by and they need it.
PM me if you are willing to donate it.
DSOUZA
Feel free to DM me, but for the record I'm not affiliated with Royal Pheromones, I just chat with the owner on the discord sometimes. And I do have a third of a bottle of 2013 AM for comparison purposes.
Is it in L&S?
Nope, unscented
Quote from: He-Mone on Aug 02, 2025, 03:05 PMQuote from: Dsouza on Aug 02, 2025, 01:20 PMQuote from: He-Mone on Aug 02, 2025, 11:33 AMQuote from: Dsouza on Aug 01, 2025, 02:06 PMQuote from: He-Mone on Jul 31, 2025, 09:45 PMQuote from: Dsouza on Jul 31, 2025, 07:52 PMIf you guys all know the L2k , AM , and Glace formulas WTF is no one re-producing these golden gems?
What's stopping the best pheromone scientists from conjuring them up and re-selling them , albeit to a smaller group in today's market?
whiskeyzulumike the owner of Royal Pheromones has talked about making a recreation of L2K. I told him to call it Permit 2 Slay. Not sure how close it would be without using the same sources of molecules as Chris but I'd love to give it a try
Can we get this project going so it's out on the market to buy before the winter? I am very excited to hear this news. Perhaps the owner needs to hear a few words of enticement and wisdom from a 30 year veteran like myself, who has used over 200+ products and considers L2k 2014 in his top 5.
I would also like to have a few words with you in private PM over this. I'd like to see this project come before years end and on the market asap.
Edit: 1 HR later. I've contacted Royal Pheromones and suggested the project be started without delay asap. There is a huge audience out there that would buy into L2k 2014 even if it wasn't 100% identical to the AD 2014 l2k formula.
Edit: 6 HRS later. Anybody have Am or L2k in Actual L&S scent still around? Would you be willing to donate it for the purpose of recreating L2k going forward? I'm asking because the potential creators of the new formula have no yardstick to measure L&S by and they need it.
PM me if you are willing to donate it.
DSOUZA
Feel free to DM me, but for the record I'm not affiliated with Royal Pheromones, I just chat with the owner on the discord sometimes. And I do have a third of a bottle of 2013 AM for comparison purposes.
Is it in L&S?
Nope, unscented
That won't help. I told the owner that the L&S scent made a big difference to how it worked. I at least feel it did.
He will have to conjuer up his own leather scent or go with a trade secret scent.
All in all my biggest quest is to see this to fruition!
It's a shame that two of the best formulas ever created, L2k and Old MAG (Rumor has it that the Old MAG was made by Chris before Alpha Dream and the Alpha Machio was the new version but not as good) were made by the biggest drama queen in the universe, Chris from Alpha Dream..
Agree 100%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
Royal Pheromones told me they will not be remaking an L2k Clone.
Quote from: Dsouza on Aug 28, 2025, 07:14 PMRoyal Pheromones told me they will not be remaking an L2k Clone.
it was expected..