Hi fellow stinkers,
New member here. I have lurked the old forum for 2 years and now this one. Information you share is precious.
I got few LAL product but haven't tested them too much. Just on few occasions and they seem to work.
Not to bother you with big text, just tldr, I have social anxiety when in large groups of people.
In such settings I'm always in my head thinking they are watching me and will laugh at me for whatever reason.
I think 10 times what to say/respond and how would be interpreted. So I end up saying nothing :D.
Sometimes my heart goes 200 and my feet wobble when entering a room with many people. Totally Tzar like, no doubt. 8)
Before we get to the mone topic, want to be clear that I have taken foundational measures for my problem. The plan is solid and I'm already improving in above regards.
I will be a medical student from autumn and by then my condition will be at least 80% cured.
Here mones are coming as a cherry on top. The plan is to use some alpha blend NA/BW on body and put some disinhibitor on my nostrils.
For example alpha-androstenol and will have one in mind not to turn into a chitchatter.
Other molecules from my research would be P83, P86, P87, P103, TAC.
From this list only 83 and 86 are available at PXS.
What you reckon? Are these two or a-nol good for disinhibiting? Goal is to disinhibit myself, not others! Having said that, would be the lowest concetration of 83/86 - 2mcg per spray sufficient, given it will be before my nose?
Any other suggestion for disinhibiting?
Thank you for reading!
Tzar
Hello and welcome to PheroTruth 2.0!
Interestingly I have similar issues when in social settings, especially in larger groups (that's why I bothered to reply). Maybe not as bad as yours but I can also get anxious and am usually quiet in groups, at least until I feel comfortable with ppl I am with. I am a shy person too.
However, I can't really answer your questions as I don't know that much about single molecules and have only used some AlphaDream's products. Well, I did some reading on molecules when choosing my mones but can't remember too much.
From my experience V2 does seem to have a disinhibiting effect though, at least I have generally been able to relax and express myself freely when using it :)
Hey revird, thank you for responding!
I checked V2 and says it has a-nol and b-nol so maybe these are giving relaxing effect. Did you buy it directly from their website?
I would go for alpha androstenol together with P83 at high doses. Not as high on the androstenol but >50mcg of p83.
Quote from: Mr Highvalue on Apr 16, 2024, 09:39 AMI would go for alpha androstenol together with P83 at high doses. Not as high on the androstenol but >50mcg of p83.
Cheers!
Quote from: tzar on Apr 16, 2024, 02:43 AMHey revird, thank you for responding!
I checked V2 and says it has a-nol and b-nol so maybe these are giving relaxing effect. Did you buy it directly from their website?
Yes, I did. Would have preferred AromaFero who provide much better customer service and faster delivery times but they stopped selling AD's products :(
My doctor prescribed me compounded intranasal oxytocin for SAD. Dose is 4-6 IU, bid. 10-12 IU per day. 1 week in and I feel less inhibited.
Hi, thank you, I reasearched a bit and oxytocin sounds promising. Now I have to find where to buy it from (unfortunately going to a doctor is not an option atm, as well it seems there isn't oxy spray product in my country even with perscription.
Quote from: tzar on Apr 27, 2024, 02:45 PMHi, thank you, I reasearched a bit and oxytocin sounds promising. Now I have to find where to buy it from (unfortunately going to a doctor is not an option atm, as well it seems there isn't oxy spray product in my country even with perscription.
Europe? Maybe make your own nasal spray from IV units?
https://rupharma.com/oxytocin/
https://extrapharmacy.ru/oxytocin-injections?search=oxytocin
I'm douptful ill receive a package coming from Russia/Kazachstan assuming todays politics.
https://europe.direct-peptides.com/product/oxytocin-nasal-spray/ I checked this and one else. It says guaranteed delivery...
What about Aromafero Oxytocin? It's out of stock though.
Quote from: tzar on Apr 28, 2024, 06:36 AMI'm douptful ill receive a package coming from Russia/Kazachstan assuming todays politics.
https://europe.direct-peptides.com/product/oxytocin-nasal-spray/ I checked this and one else. It says guaranteed delivery...
What about Aromafero Oxytocin? It's out of stock though.
The AF stuff has ETOH and MCT, you don't want to put that up your nose!
Maybe these places ship to europe?
https://oxyluv.com/
https://science.bio/product/oxytocin-ac-spray/
check reddit too, there's discussions on it
Thats a good point on mct/edoh in the nose. Glad you mention it.
So science.bio doesn't ship to my country, Pherluv does but there is risk with customs always.
I found another site https://biolabshop.eu/peptides/113-oxytocin-spray-10mg-5905601708377.html
Shipping prices are high but since they ship from Poland I will receive the package surely.
If someone EU based have had purchased anything from following sites please comment!
https://biolabshop.eu/
https://germany.pharmalabglobal.com/product/oxytocin-nasal-spray/
https://europe.direct-peptides.com/product/oxytocin-nasal-spray/
Oxytocin is used to force animals into labor and dangerous to pregnant women if exposed. In the veterinary field it comes in an injectable form and fairly cheap.
Possess has disinhibition qualities and I've seen women say things they were thinking out loud without meaning to.
Quote from: RussianWolf on Apr 29, 2024, 10:25 AMOxytocin is used to force animals into labor and dangerous to pregnant women if exposed. In the veterinary field it comes in an injectable form and fairly cheap.
Possess has disinhibition qualities and I've seen women say things they were thinking out loud without meaning to.
So it is betafying animals. I've seen on ebay oxytocin for bees. Maybe is making them to collect more powder for honey.
What scares me more though is description from aromafero : ''In some cases, Oxytocin can cause EXTREME character changes, especially over prolonged use. I believe this is the result of a self effect and taking your "thoughts" more seriously. If you think highly of yourself, you might notice extreme confidence to the point of cockiness or arrogance. If you think negatively of yourself, you may wind up feeling depressed, lethargic, like something is wrong with your life etc.''
Quote from: greedware on Apr 28, 2024, 03:11 PMThe AF stuff has ETOH and MCT, you don't want to put that up your nose!
@greedware, One question on this. I plan to buy alpha androstenol from AF to use it close to my nose or inside lol. Given that it will be high concentration and small amound of the liquid will be applied,
which would be the safer option alchohol or MCT?
Quote from: tzar on Apr 30, 2024, 04:21 AMQuote from: RussianWolf on Apr 29, 2024, 10:25 AMOxytocin is used to force animals into labor and dangerous to pregnant women if exposed. In the veterinary field it comes in an injectable form and fairly cheap.
Possess has disinhibition qualities and I've seen women say things they were thinking out loud without meaning to.
So it is betafying animals.
No, its a hormone that forces contractions for pregnant mammals, humans included.
Quote from: tzar on Apr 30, 2024, 04:32 AMQuote from: greedware on Apr 28, 2024, 03:11 PMThe AF stuff has ETOH and MCT, you don't want to put that up your nose!
@greedware, One question on this. I plan to buy alpha androstenol from AF to use it close to my nose or inside lol. Given that it will be high concentration and small amound of the liquid will be applied,
which would be the safer option alchohol or MCT?
Just inside your nostrils? Probably either is ok, but alcohol might burn.
Don't shoot anything up into your nasal cavity that isn't sterile! Alcohol would definitively burn the shit out of your sinuses.
Quote from: RussianWolf on Apr 30, 2024, 09:40 AMQuote from: tzar on Apr 30, 2024, 04:21 AMQuote from: RussianWolf on Apr 29, 2024, 10:25 AMOxytocin is used to force animals into labor and dangerous to pregnant women if exposed. In the veterinary field it comes in an injectable form and fairly cheap.
Possess has disinhibition qualities and I've seen women say things they were thinking out loud without meaning to.
So it is betafying animals.
No, its a hormone that forces contractions for pregnant mammals, humans included.
There's been a lot of research around the social and bonding effects of oxytocin:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5573563/
QuoteOur review focuses on the peptide oxytocin as a potential therapeutic option for individuals with social anxiety. Animal research both in nonprimates and primates supports oxytocin's role in facilitation of prosocial behaviors and its anxiolytic effects. Human studies indicate significant associations between social anxiety and oxytocin receptor gene alleles, as well as social anxiety and oxytocin plasma levels. In addition, intranasal administration of oxytocin in humans has favorable effects on social anxiety symptomology
Quote from: greedware on Apr 30, 2024, 02:49 PMJust inside your nostrils? Probably either is ok, but alcohol might burn.
Don't shoot anything up into your nasal cavity that isn't sterile! Alcohol would definitively burn the shit out of your sinuses.
Ok, thanks, I will go with oil version. I'm not gonna shove it deep inside the nose, just at the nose entrance.
Last week i put 2 drops of AV unscented on a surface and then I was scraping a bit with a tooth pick and rub it onto my nose entrance, so might have been like half drop applied. I had great self effects. Could be a placebo cause same day I read about AV selfies and experienced many of them like the smirk and feeling above everyday stuff etc...
I don't know what is mone composition of AV.
Yesterday I tried this but with BW. Cover scent of BW is nice but unbearable when in your nose, so I end up cleaning it after 20 mins. During the day I dealt with many things, very productive, and slight agression and irritable..
Prefer AV so far.