AV review thread!
Recently I started to revisit this mone. Originally this was my first mone that Garry recommended me to use. It's perfect for cold approaches, gets lots of IOIs and easy number closes from women. Dating wise I find it a bit too serious and some girls (those I like) find me too unreachable at times, so I'd only use it with some alpha female/career girl, those serious girls or those who value status stimulation as a priority.
Hey TracerX,
I remember a few people saying that you don't have much time with this Mone to reach your goal. Can you confirm this or what is your experience with it?
I actually used it once in a job interview with very good results, but not with women yet.
I would say it's rather that you often just get opportunities to move forward much faster with it, and if you don't capitalize on it, it might backfire. Like let's take an example:
You're talking to a girl and are wearing AV. She see flashes and smiles and interests and all that, that's when you should take her number, if you stall an extra 30 min this might wear off and she'll feel that you might not be interested, same with escalation if at a date it feels like the right time to kiss but you don't it kinda draws back.
I once had a number close in around 30 seconds talking to two girls who sat by the river, the entire convo was 30 seconds then I just left (cause I had to lol). I think if I had waited more it might've ended up differently.
I don't think you have to close the girl on the same night and all is lost. But if you see opportunities just go for it and don't stall.
I found with AV I got 30 numbers from 30 models talking to them for only 10 min. But 95% of them never even acknowledged a single text I sent them -- the numbers went no where. At the time I was getting the numbers it seemed they were really into me too!
I feel you can't get a woman's number and follow up with AV. You have to go for the close.
I don't feel it's a dating mone. More 2 am nightclub, girls on dance floor, whose gonna pull into a washroom stall or back alley or car for a quick fuck.
When I got numbers with AV, most would follow up, however, I did find it's better to lower the dose, switch a product or even go without mones at time. Having AV aura constantly on the average girl makes it too serious on them, that's why mostly I'd use it in group gatherings, and in cold approaching
But assuming you closed the same night with AV, have you managed to followup this relation with the girls or they ghost you?
While AV is in my war chest I don't know why I never warmed up to it. Perhaps not truly knowing the best places to use, though I've had good luck with other LAL products.
Quote from: TracerX on Dec 19, 2023, 03:44 PMBut assuming you closed the same night with AV, have you managed to followup this relation with the girls or they ghost you?
I've never fclosed with AV. So far only M3X 2017 or AM 2014.
Closed with Aqua Vitae solo only one time.This was after the first two hours after application, and with some alcohol infused.
I have been using AV occasionally for the last 2 weeks and while I haven't seen much in the attraction side the self effects are INSANE for me. I can see that IDGAF attitude that I have read for many years now. I wonder if the weather was hotter I could see more IOIs. Will post if I see more.
Quote from: Johnny Fever on Dec 19, 2023, 05:04 PMWhile AV is in my war chest I don't know why I never warmed up to it. Perhaps not truly knowing the best places to use, though I've had good luck with other LAL products.
To me it's always been quite inconsistent, some nights out I'd get an AMAZING hit and be able to close once playing my cards right (isolating, touching, leaving to my place etc etc) but this didn't happen as much or rather the whole thing playing out successfully. it's hard to navigate around and there are just better choices for attracting women.
Garry said OD is more sexual than AV.
It's also not so hit and miss .
WHY does AV get more love?
Quote from: Dsouza on Mar 05, 2024, 03:37 AMGarry said OD is more sexual than AV.
It's also not so hit and miss .
WHY does AV get more love?
I suspect Because AV is older than OD on the market and also because OD is a gel and gels are trickier than oil due to diffusion. AV has always been hit or miss for everyone. I suspect it's women cycle dépendant. OD is more complex with phases of evolution while AV does not have too much of a change throughout excepted D+1 effect sometimes
I once tested it at a work register (4 drops 2 left back hand ,1 back right hand and one centre of neck). Didn't do anything for me surprisingly . I was thinking if it was too much at work register..... just imagine, an auntie who cut fish at the supermarket wears AV, odd aura 😂
Quote from: Alphonso on Mar 05, 2024, 05:47 PMQuote from: Dsouza on Mar 05, 2024, 03:37 AMGarry said OD is more sexual than AV.
It's also not so hit and miss .
WHY does AV get more love?
I suspect it's women cycle dépendant.
Real Interesting take on the female Cycles part. I totally didn't think that part through. nice.
@SigmaWolf I mean, what are you expecting wearing mones while working at a cash register? a Woman to just slip you her number or something? I think a lot of this is being at a venue where men and women hang out in a relaxed fashion, so at a bar, club, even at work, (if it's not a stressful place to work) . At the market at a cash register where there is a time constraint. . .what do you expect here? You can't really game girls while at the register.
unless you got on some NPA though lol. That juice works miracles in seconds.
If AV screams rock star and is close quickly has anyone tried kissing models who are introduced to them through friends etc directly on the lips right away?
If so what what their reaction (positive or negative) ? Did you ever get arrested for harassment by doing this?
Quote from: Dsouza on Mar 21, 2024, 05:37 PMIf AV screams rock star and is close quickly has anyone tried kissing models who are introduced to them through friends etc directly on the lips right away?
If so what what their reaction (positive or negative) ? Did you ever get arrested for harassment by doing this?
May I suggest you an appointment with a psychologist ?
Quote from: Alphonso on Mar 21, 2024, 08:15 PMQuote from: Dsouza on Mar 21, 2024, 05:37 PMIf AV screams rock star and is close quickly has anyone tried kissing models who are introduced to them through friends etc directly on the lips right away?
If so what what their reaction (positive or negative) ? Did you ever get arrested for harassment by doing this?
May I suggest you an appointment with a psychologist ?
All joking aside I read reports of several AV users doing this keeping in with the AV celebrity vibe.
After all if a model was introduced to Slash he'd probably greet her with a pull in hug and kiss on the lips.
AV is exactly that celebrity vibe.
I have indeed kissed dates hb9's right on the lips when they met me at a bar to greet them however I was using M3x and conversation already turned sexual over online game before we met up. Sex happened pretty soon after that with several hb9's and it was the best , most lustful sex I've ever experienced. That was 2017, I was 47 and the hb9 models were age 24-33.
I don't know if the result would have been different with AV? AV has no comfort and is hit or miss. It can also put off some women. I found no such thing with m3x 2017 or L2k 2014. Why? Extreme social proof, disinhibition.
AV is the ultimate "love or hate" mix.
It's either dreamy eyes and smiles or you have a superiority complex and I don't like you.
A total mixed bag of reactions. I could never close once with it though. I never got presented the IOIs in the most opportune of places.
I would like to get another 30ml bottle however and give it another go as my game has levelled up immensely since those days.
I seem to get no reactions from AV, good or bad. I haven't gone over 2 drops, though.
Quote from: greedware on Apr 13, 2024, 12:01 PMI seem to get no reactions from AV, good or bad. I haven't gone over 2 drops, though.
The more the better, don't be afraid to try 10 drops
Quote from: RussianWolf on Apr 13, 2024, 12:47 PMThe more the better, don't be afraid to try 10 drops
I second this. While going to club I slather A.V.
Quote from: RussianWolf on Apr 13, 2024, 12:47 PMQuote from: greedware on Apr 13, 2024, 12:01 PMI seem to get no reactions from AV, good or bad. I haven't gone over 2 drops, though.
The more the better, don't be afraid to try 10 drops
You should stop recommending again and again and again super high dosage for pretty much all the lal products. It might work for you but that is not the norm. Most products including AV have a sweet spot that users need to find by themselves.
For me it is surpringly the same dosage of 4 drops for all lals products except DP. For others it might be different
Quote from: Alphonso on Apr 13, 2024, 04:29 PMQuote from: RussianWolf on Apr 13, 2024, 12:47 PMQuote from: greedware on Apr 13, 2024, 12:01 PMI seem to get no reactions from AV, good or bad. I haven't gone over 2 drops, though.
The more the better, don't be afraid to try 10 drops
You should stop recommending again and again and again super high dosage for pretty much all the lal products.
I'm just giving sound advice. How is anyone going to find their sweet spot if they never go above and beyond?
Quote from: RussianWolf on Apr 13, 2024, 12:47 PMQuote from: greedware on Apr 13, 2024, 12:01 PMI seem to get no reactions from AV, good or bad. I haven't gone over 2 drops, though.
The more the better, don't be afraid to try 10 drops
I did 7 drops today at a crowded Japantown cherry blossom festival. I got whiplash reactions. (like standing in line and a girl in front of me whips her head around so fast to look she's going to hurt herself).
Chatted up a red head (a bit on the chubby side) and she was super intimidated. She was compliant though.
I added 3 more drops after about an hour just to see and it made me nauseated. 7 drops seems about right for me!
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Quote from: greedware on Apr 13, 2024, 07:25 PMQuote from: RussianWolf on Apr 13, 2024, 12:47 PMQuote from: greedware on Apr 13, 2024, 12:01 PMI seem to get no reactions from AV, good or bad. I haven't gone over 2 drops, though.
The more the better, don't be afraid to try 10 drops
I did 7 drops today at a crowded Japantown cherry blossom festival. I got whiplash reactions. (like standing in line and a girl in front of me whips her head around so fast to look she's going to hurt herself).
Yeah that's awesome, I've gotten the same reactions while waiting in line. AV was the mone that turned me into a believer. I used to wear it as a daily work mone but every so often some people who are sensitive to it can be repelled because to them it smells like piss. It's definitely a special product.
Av at 4 drops is magic juice from the Gods for me.
Under 4 drops I get anxiety. Over 4 drops anxiety and stone out.. too much.
Quote from: Alphonso on Apr 13, 2024, 04:29 PMQuote from: RussianWolf on Apr 13, 2024, 12:47 PMQuote from: greedware on Apr 13, 2024, 12:01 PMI seem to get no reactions from AV, good or bad. I haven't gone over 2 drops, though.
The more the better, don't be afraid to try 10 drops
You should stop recommending again and again and again super high dosage for pretty much all the lal products. It might work for you but that is not the norm. Most products including AV have a sweet spot that users need to find by themselves.
For me it is surpringly the same dosage of 4 drops for all lals products except DP. For others it might be different
Do you find AV is a product you have to close with the same night you meet a girl? And you get as far as the close whatever close that may be? A number, kiss, BJ, sex?
Quote from: RussianWolf on Apr 13, 2024, 04:57 PMQuote from: Alphonso on Apr 13, 2024, 04:29 PMQuote from: RussianWolf on Apr 13, 2024, 12:47 PMQuote from: greedware on Apr 13, 2024, 12:01 PMI seem to get no reactions from AV, good or bad. I haven't gone over 2 drops, though.
The more the better, don't be afraid to try 10 drops
You should stop recommending again and again and again super high dosage for pretty much all the lal products.
I'm just giving sound advice. How is anyone going to find their sweet spot if they never go above and beyond?
I'm with Alphonse on this. going from 2-10 drops is dumb. sorry. his body hasn't gotten used to the mone yet, it would be better to just up it by one drop until he finds his sweet spot. Thundr wrote a big post for newbies about this on PT1.
Anyone reading this thread and is a newbie: DO NOT start with high dosages. Start of with 2-3 drops so that your body can get used to it. If you suddenly spike to a high dosage, odds are the mone will have the effect of drinking 5 cups of expresso, OR a Vicodin lol, start slow, test over 2-3 months slowly up (or lower) dosages, go to different venues, events, situations etc.
Honestly, most people should spend 1-2 months of constant testing along those lines before writing about it. It's better to find your own sweet spot than to waste half a bottle cause some guy said to douse yourself in it (RW did this a lot in PT1 as well) that is bad advice. Finding what mones are good for you in the environments that are more conducive to getting what you want with the opposite sex, takes AT Least 6-12 months, if not years to get right. You have to put in the work though.
Hopefully with better posting guidelines in regards to advice, we can help shorten the time it takes to really learn these tools more efficiently.
"I'm with Alphonse on this. going from 2-10 drops is dumb. sorry."
No, hearing men complain over the years that AV isn't working for them and calling it a dud because they only wore 2 drops is why it's stupid to wear 2 drops. That's why I recommend wearing much more, because that's when you see results.
AV isn't for the faint hearted. If you can't handle getting attention or have no social skills, if you don't like being in the spotlight and the center of attention; do not buy AV. AV is very specific, it's not an all around mone, it gives off a celebrity/rockstar/vip vibe. Wearing a few drops isn't going to do that, it's not magical and so powerful that a few drops is going to do that for you.
When AV came in a roller it was much easier to use, you roll it on all over and go out. There was no scientific dosage with drops, you applied it and went about your day.
"Anyone reading this thread and is a newbie: DO NOT start with high dosages. Start of with 2-3 drops"
Why? So they can waste their time and be disappointed like so many others?
"It's better to find your own sweet spot than to waste half a bottle cause some guy said to douse yourself in it (RW did this a lot in PT1 as well) that is bad advice. Finding what mones are good for you in the environments that are more conducive to getting what you want with the opposite sex, takes AT Least 6-12 months, if not years to get right. You have to put in the work though."
No, you wouldn't be wasting any product, because in high dosages is where AV shines. And it doesn't take years to figure things out. That's ridiculous. Maybe if you are creating your own product with single molecules, but only then. Most mones are pretty basic to understand, the problem is when people don't wear enough, then they don't see results.
"Hopefully with better posting guidelines in regards to advice, we can help shorten the time it takes to really learn these tools more efficiently."
According to you it can take years to figure this out.
AV is celebrity in a bottle. Downsides; it can smell like cat piss to some. And it doesn't work great with people you are very familiar with because it's such a drastic change to your personal signature.
People mention a "sweet spot" but what is that? When you notice people paying attention to you? So a few drops gets a little attention and you think you've found you're sweet spot, when in reality that could be the minimum you need to use to just get started.
I m sorry to repeat myself but you re wrong and I have tolerated you on the former forum saying again and again incorrect statements but enough is enough. AV does not work better at high dose.
It's just a good but inconsistent product.
I agree that 1 or 2 drop is like nothing but bathing in the product does not give more than wearing a few drops, usually 4 to 5 do the trick.
And I have tried pretty much all dosage up to so many drops that I could not count them
So please stop the bullshit. What seem to work for you doesn't make a universal thruth
AV works magic for me at 4 drops.
Quote from: Alphonso on Jun 03, 2024, 05:29 PMI m sorry to repeat myself but you re wrong and I have tolerated you
Not everyone can pull off the AV vibe
Hey @RussianWolf
Not sure why people are ragging on you. It's different strokes for different folks with these things. What sort of results do you get with high dose AV?
I've tried AV at low and high dose. IMO high dose will definitely give you massive attention, and it's worth trying if you are a noob and need that "holy shit, these mones actually work!" experience.
But I found while high dose AV gives massive attraction from afar, people are repelled of they are close to you for a longer period. I don't think it's lack of social skills, there's just an intensity to the mones that is uncomfortable. I gave a family member some high dose AV to wear a few times and being close to him gave me headaches and made me irritable after a while. I speculate that women also get these uncomfortable feelings too which explains the lack of conversion to results for most people on high dose AV. Plus I can smell cat poss smell from AV very strongly and it's very unpleasant. If I can smell it, then I'm sure there are many others who smell it but say nothing.
These days I like a tiny drop of AV on the sideburns or chin to draw attention to the face as an addition to other mones. The effect is. More subtle and believable for ordinary interactions.
A
Quote from: Dsouza on Jun 03, 2024, 06:12 PMAV works magic for me at 4 drops.
That was my sweet spot for AV too. Sometimes even 3 drops.
Quote from: Alphonse on Jun 04, 2024, 02:54 AMHey @RussianWolf
Not sure why people are ragging on you. It's different strokes for different folks with these things. What sort of results do you get with high dose AV?
I've tried AV at low and high dose. IMO high dose will definitely give you massive attention, and it's worth trying if you are a noob and need that "holy shit, these mones actually work!" experience.
But I found while high dose AV gives massive attraction from afar, people are repelled of they are close to you for a longer period. I don't think it's lack of social skills, there's just an intensity to the mones that is uncomfortable. I gave a family member some high dose AV to wear a few times and being close to him gave me headaches and made me irritable after a while. I speculate that women also get these uncomfortable feelings too which explains the lack of conversion to results for most people on high dose AV. Plus I can smell cat poss smell from AV very strongly and it's very unpleasant. If I can smell it, then I'm sure there are many others who smell it but say nothing.
These days I like a tiny drop of AV on the sideburns or chin to draw attention to the face as an addition to other mones. The effect is. More subtle and believable for ordinary interactions.
A
A massive dose is good when Freshly applied but become quickly useless as the product start burning and become so potent that you get gosthed. Try it and report back.
Quote from: Alphonse on Jun 04, 2024, 02:54 AMHey @RussianWolf
Not sure why people are ragging on you. It's different strokes for different folks with these things. What sort of results do you get with high dose AV?
Thanks, Yeah I don't understand it. I recently bought Ikor and TKO from Apex and the dosage from the Creator is 1-2 sprays. So if 1 spray is 4 drops then 2 sprays equals 8 drops. But no one would call me stupid or irresponsible for suggesting other members to try 2 sprays.
For me AV gives me the utmost confidence, because even if someone doesn't respond to it, I know it's working in the background. I've had women treat me like a famous person where they couldn't even speak but just kept giggling like they just met their favorite star. It can be weird especially when you forget you're wearing mones. Deer in the headlights where they are simply mesmerized is common. Other times people want your validation.
Of course its not every woman, some are more susceptible to mones. And yes, the cat piss smell is real. I used to wear it as a daily work mone but now save it for special occasions. Its definitely not an every day relationship mone, but it will leave an impression. I've gotten hired on the spot wearing AV leaving the interviewer thoroughly impressed. Anytime you're looking to impress or leave a great first impression, AV is what I reach for.
I have unscented AV and I used it succesfully few times with just 2 drops. Effects on others were as described above : vip, rockstar vibe. I got these as a self effects as well.
Quote from: Alphonse on Jun 04, 2024, 02:54 AMHey @RussianWolf
Not sure why people are ragging on you.
A
Stop.
People are ragging on him because a LOT of us are from PT1 and saw post after post after post of him reccomend these rediculous ass dosages RIGHT OFF THE BAT when the everyone else who knew what they were talking about told people to test single products at low dosages to start then find the sweet spot. This is like usage 101
I could go in hardcore on this guy over all the bullshitting going on if I wanted to but it's not worth it.
No newbie is going to handle shit like 8-10 drops of BW for example and have a good time (he'd probably have a heart attack tbh) they should not be told to do this.
It's irresponsible as hell. Don't be an enabler. Not cool.
It's not always that more drops the more effect you get. These extreme doses can work too, it's a bit funny you can have a product that works will 1-4 drops, if you go to 6,7,8 drops it doesn't work well, but at 12 drops it suddenly works again, but similar to as if you used 4 drops lol. It's funny and confusing sometimes.
For AV I did 8-10 drops as RW suggested, it worked well at times. But this doesn't work for BW for me for example.
Quote from: CJ_W on Jun 19, 2024, 09:50 PMQuote from: Alphonse on Jun 04, 2024, 02:54 AMHey @RussianWolf
Not sure why people are ragging on you.
A
Stop.
People are ragging on him because a LOT of us are from PT1 and saw post after post after post of him reccomend these rediculous ass dosages RIGHT OFF THE BAT when the everyone else who knew what they were talking about told people to test single products at low dosages to start then find the sweet spot. This is like usage 101
I could go in hardcore on this guy over all the bullshitting going on if I wanted to but it's not worth it.
No newbie is going to handle shit like 8-10 drops of BW for example and have a good time (he'd probably have a heart attack tbh) they should not be told to do this.
It's irresponsible as hell. Don't be an enabler. Not cool.
I appreciate your passion, but you're getting a little weird about this
I forgot the power of AV until I decided to take it for a whirl again today.
Just 2 drops, thought I might have needed 4, but no...
Top notch customer service came my way. People going out of their way to please me. People assume you have loads of authority. People genuinely ask questions about you. More tips than I've ever made from my customers for my work than I've ever made in a day. Attractive women turning their heads and smiling as I walked past them, randoms I didn't know. People taking well to my suggestions and acting upon them. I even took a photo of myself in a cafe mirror as the waitress behind the counter smiled. I felt I was looking great today must have been the netrione. Told her I knew where I was going to put that photo and it wasn't Facebook. She had a chuckle.
Today flowed so smoothly. I felt like the attractive alpha who was in charge of everything and got all he wanted. People especially women were open to my suggestions and my authority. Felt great again.
I'm glad I rediscovered it's power today.
Oh, I put 1.5 sprays of AoA to get people receptive. The AV and AoA worked well and in synergy together.
Funny, i would never dream of wearing 10+ drops of AV. I always just wore less than an inch strip of it, but paired with cologne dry down. Deer in the headlights from women, or aggressive agitation like they thought I was there just to fuck.
A lot really depends on your build i think. The Androstenone in AV definitely affects women differently depending where they are at in their cycle.
Some deer in headlights, and some just get aggressive (ive even experienced physical violence) often because they are shit testing you, I remember a girl fists wailing on my chest because "he's a man he can take it." Needless to say, got laid that night. AV makes you a God and you better be ready for it cause shittests are endless if you're not ready. Also Definitely offputting to lesbians.
Quote from: whiskeyzulumike on Jul 11, 2024, 01:53 AMFunny, i would never dream of wearing 10+ drops of AV. I always just wore less than an inch strip of it, but paired with cologne dry down. Deer in the headlights from women, or aggressive agitation like they thought I was there just to fuck.
A lot really depends on your build i think. The Androstenone in AV definitely affects women differently depending where they are at in their cycle.
Some deer in headlights, and some just get aggressive (ive even experienced physical violence) often because they are shit testing you, I remember a girl fists wailing on my chest because "he's a man he can take it." Needless to say, got laid that night. AV makes you a God and you better be ready for it cause shittests are endless if you're not ready. Also Definitely offputting to lesbians.
Yes I second that and always not for the best. Last time I wore AV was in a night club. I m 40 and suddenly a girl who was probably 20 looked at me weirdly so I looked back and and she yelled ' think about your age before starring at me' . Well well, I don't know what was going on but I might have looked at her like a perv even if that was not my intention or she saw just disturbed by the product. I had to escape from the zone.
Quote from: Alphonso on Jul 11, 2024, 01:07 PMYes I second that and always not for the best. Last time I wore AV was in a night club. I m 40 and suddenly a girl who was probably 20 looked at me weirdly so I looked back and and she yelled ' think about your age before starring at me' . Well well, I don't know what was going on but I might have looked at her like a perv even if that was not my intention or she saw just disturbed by the product. I had to escape from the zone.
Lol.. how far away was she? If in earshot i'dve tried to flip the script somehow, but there's nothing worse for social proof than being called a creep.
Quote from: RussianWolf on Jun 03, 2024, 04:11 PM"I'm with Alphonse on this. going from 2-10 drops is dumb. sorry."
No, hearing men complain over the years that AV isn't working for them and calling it a dud because they only wore 2 drops is why it's stupid to wear 2 drops. That's why I recommend wearing much more, because that's when you see results.
AV isn't for the faint hearted. If you can't handle getting attention or have no social skills, if you don't like being in the spotlight and the center of attention; do not buy AV. AV is very specific, it's not an all around mone, it gives off a celebrity/rockstar/vip vibe. Wearing a few drops isn't going to do that, it's not magical and so powerful that a few drops is going to do that for you.
When AV came in a roller it was much easier to use, you roll it on all over and go out. There was no scientific dosage with drops, you applied it and went about your day.
"Anyone reading this thread and is a newbie: DO NOT start with high dosages. Start of with 2-3 drops"
Why? So they can waste their time and be disappointed like so many others?
"It's better to find your own sweet spot than to waste half a bottle cause some guy said to douse yourself in it (RW did this a lot in PT1 as well) that is bad advice. Finding what mones are good for you in the environments that are more conducive to getting what you want with the opposite sex, takes AT Least 6-12 months, if not years to get right. You have to put in the work though."
No, you wouldn't be wasting any product, because in high dosages is where AV shines. And it doesn't take years to figure things out. That's ridiculous. Maybe if you are creating your own product with single molecules, but only then. Most mones are pretty basic to understand, the problem is when people don't wear enough, then they don't see results.
"Hopefully with better posting guidelines in regards to advice, we can help shorten the time it takes to really learn these tools more efficiently."
According to you it can take years to figure this out.
AV is celebrity in a bottle. Downsides; it can smell like cat piss to some. And it doesn't work great with people you are very familiar with because it's such a drastic change to your personal signature.
People mention a "sweet spot" but what is that? When you notice people paying attention to you? So a few drops gets a little attention and you think you've found you're sweet spot, when in reality that could be the minimum you need to use to just get started.
Wasnt it revealed in the old forum that Russian Wolf is Garry Nelson himslef?
All genius is simple. In the end you want to find the minimal dose you need to get maximum results.
I've had some of the most outlandish hits without even trying with av but I've also had some of my absolute worst interactions with women as well. The outlandish hits don't really go anywhere if you don't close immediately . I get the most hits from 1st time meeting with people. Slight confrontations with women to to get go overboard so I avoid wearing it when I know I'll be in a position of authority when I have to tell women what to do or will have to tell them they can't do something. Better for parties or working for uber
I am going to continue to tell people to try BW with AV. This mix will get you places!
Quote from: Stride on Sep 21, 2024, 08:57 PMI am going to continue to tell people to try BW with AV. This mix will get you places!
Do you get similar results with the bw with avgel?
Quote from: Stride on Sep 21, 2024, 08:57 PMI am going to continue to tell people to try BW with AV. This mix will get you places!
Do you have them both scented the same? Thanks
I didn't read of BW AV closes just a lot of sexual talk. That was a while ago. Do I stand corrected?
Also what was your doses of each?
Quote from: Alphonso on Jul 11, 2024, 01:07 PMQuote from: whiskeyzulumike on Jul 11, 2024, 01:53 AMFunny, i would never dream of wearing 10+ drops of AV. I always just wore less than an inch strip of it, but paired with cologne dry down. Deer in the headlights from women, or aggressive agitation like they thought I was there just to fuck.
A lot really depends on your build i think. The Androstenone in AV definitely affects women differently depending where they are at in their cycle.
Some deer in headlights, and some just get aggressive (ive even experienced physical violence) often because they are shit testing you, I remember a girl fists wailing on my chest because "he's a man he can take it." Needless to say, got laid that night. AV makes you a God and you better be ready for it cause shittests are endless if you're not ready. Also Definitely offputting to lesbians.
Yes I second that and always not for the best. Last time I wore AV was in a night club. I m 40 and suddenly a girl who was probably 20 looked at me weirdly so I looked back and and she yelled ' think about your age before starring at me' . Well well, I don't know what was going on but I might have looked at her like a perv even if that was not my intention or she saw just disturbed by the product. I had to escape from the zone.
I'm 54 and get 23 yo looking hb10's in mall whispering "I bet his dick would fit right up my ass" as she passed right by me.
TBH that kinda freaked me out a woman so forward. So young. So good looking . And in a mall not a bar.
I don't know why AV suits me so well. I found this happened when I was looking at her intermittently but having my coffee and just playing it cool.
AV brings out the XXX in women. But she didn't stick near me to get me to open or kino. It was just like walk right past this guy , keep walking, and say that to him.
I'm 5'8", 200 lbs, 3 weight workouts a week. I train for strength. Not buffed like a bodybuilder , not ripped, but not a dad bod either.
I've never had such beautiful women gravitate around me. Not even in a bar. Not even with CASANOVA.
AV is magic. But like I said before bells and whistles what about closing?
So far I've only managed phone numbers with it. It has no comfort for a date, intimacy, sex etc
I still haven't figured it out. What is in AV that gets superstar attention? Is it fame women feel? Extreme horniness? Celebrity status? What exactly is it that they feel?
And why do some men get violent or angry just at the sight of a man wearing AV? Is it the scent, the mones? Jealousy? Sometimes there are no women around and men still get testy.
All I have to do is glance at them or their girl and some guys will start blowing the horn and giving me the finger.
It's freaky to see.
This happened outside a shoppers drug mart, and also while I was at a traffic light.
The guys were driving BMW's I drive an Accord.
Idk man, like I said, it's been hit or miss with me. I've had some great experiences with it and I've had done awful conflicts with ut as well. I've also seen some seemingly indifference directed towards me from people who typically get "smacked" with my usual blends. I've gotten the most positive results from first time a meeting. Lol I once was picked up by some chick's while I was walking yo the gym one night. And as I've stayed before, it's worked wonders for me while doing uber/uber eats. But mainly it's become my go to gym phero. I getvtons of respect and admiration from guys. But honestly I seems like women ignore me when I wear it at the gym
The last couple of days I've been experimenting with AV and Glace together on a 2:2 3:3 drop to spray split.
My thinking is that by adding the social to AV it will get women acting on their attraction impulses from AV and start talking to me first (opening me first).
It's worked on a few occasions but not all the time. The women it worked with were a bit older and less attractive for my liking. But nonetheless, it did what I wanted it to do to get women to socially act on their attraction impulse. One middle aged school teacher was getting quite aroused around me. She was the best of the bunch, but she was married.
I will test this again sometime soon.
Quote from: Mr Highvalue on Nov 01, 2024, 05:07 PMThe last couple of days I've been experimenting with AV and Glace together on a 2:2 3:3 drop to spray split.
My thinking is that by adding the social to AV it will get women acting on their attraction impulses from AV and start talking to me first (opening me first).
I've had good reactions pairing AV and sxd-9, so you're thinking makes sense.
Tested 4 drops of Av (seems to be the sweet spotfor me but need further testing)+3 nude . It seems to generate IOI from columbian woman at this mix and stare from them as I am doing my work but nothing too good noteworthy for other races .
Then bumped up to 5-6 drops of AV, nothing positive
At this point, silly me ( don't even know if it's a good idea to mix Av with nude as I have read some succesful Asian slayer report using B-nol , A1 and THU to buffer it )
Decided to use this mix since I see a lot of potential in this with top woman at 4 drops solo , insights are appreciated !
I work as an IT guy at the training center. Today, I tried AV (1.5ml tester I got from an order to Garry), with three applications using the little stick at work. There is a training session with only women today. I didn't conduct the training, but I welcomed the women and showed them to the room. All three of them seemed quite intimidated. I didn't have the chance to really converse, but it seems this small dosage is already effective.