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Has anyone ordered from this site they stock all of the Lal products their based in Hawaai https://royalpheromones.com/pages/about-us

Where did you find this site? The site itself is very new, the domain was registered in 2024-03-27. So This site is on for a little bit more than 2 months only.

I just googled lal pheromones as gary is not replying and found this site, i had a live chat with him earlier he seems genuine he said We are an authorized distributor for Garry, working on our own product also.

Ships from Garry directly. You can also email him for orders but he should also be up soon too. Same price either way.

This is awesome.  Thanks for the info

Wow! They even accept PayPal...

They just don't offer individual molecules or offer customization...

Quote from: ck on Jun 06, 2024, 12:17 PMI just googled lal pheromones as gary is not replying and found this site, i had a live chat with him earlier he seems genuine he said We are an authorized distributor for Garry, working on our own product also.

Ships from Garry directly. You can also email him for orders but he should also be up soon too. Same price either way.

Yeah Garry sometimes doesn't reply had mails not replied from him. Maybe this site owner teamed up with them, I can't. I see it is from the US so people from the US here can benefit from this. But yeah it's still fresh on the market.

just ordered overdose gel i live in the UK i will let you all know when i get it, so far the transaction has run smoothly and yes they have many payment methods which is great

Quote from: ck on Jun 07, 2024, 01:41 AMjust ordered overdose gel i live in the UK i will let you all know when i get it, so far the transaction has run smoothly and yes they have many payment methods which is great

. Did you ask for samples?

Hey guys,

I run Royal Pheromones. I was on original pherotruth as Velinxs, back from 2013 or so, but fell off the forums  (was having too much fun!)

I am helping Garry with his digital marketing, building him a new website which is coming soon, (very soon) and Garry was kind enough to allow me to resell his products as well as we will be launching our own line of products.

Currently, the products are shipping from Garry, whom I am communicating with via email. Shipping from hawaii has its challenges. So any customizations that Garry would do if still viable. This also means shipping can still be a little longer than normal as Garry keeps smaller batch sizes and often mixes to order to keep things fresh.

"Prince Charming" Coming soon.

Please email me at hello@royalpheromones.com if you have any questions.

p.s. there may be some technical difficulties with the site - I don't usually use shopify but opted to this time around and getting used to the in's and out's, so i appreciate your patience and please just let me know if you have any issues at all with the site or ordering/shipping.

Oh and if you need single molecules I'm sure that can be arranged. They are not listed on there because I run the risk of getting banned from payment processors if i'm not careful.

Quote from: whiskeyzulumike on Jun 07, 2024, 08:47 PMHey guys,

I run Royal Pheromones. I was on original pherotruth as Velinxs, back from 2013 or so, but fell off the forums  (was having too much fun!)

I am helping Garry with his digital marketing, building him a new website which is coming soon, (very soon) and Garry was kind enough to allow me to resell his products as well as we will be launching our own line of products.

Currently, the products are shipping from Garry, whom I am communicating with via email. Shipping from hawaii has its challenges. So any customizations that Garry would do if still viable. This also means shipping can still be a little longer than normal as Garry keeps smaller batch sizes and often mixes to order to keep things fresh.

"Prince Charming" Coming soon.

Please email me at hello@royalpheromones.com if you have any questions.

p.s. there may be some technical difficulties with the site - I don't usually use shopify but opted to this time around and getting used to the in's and out's, so i appreciate your patience and please just let me know if you have any issues at all with the site or ordering/shipping.

Do you ship to Australia? If you do I may consider using you next time I want to order LAL products.

Quote from: Mr Highvalue on Jun 07, 2024, 10:08 PMDo you ship to Australia? If you do I may consider using you next time I want to order LAL products.

Yes we can.  Also I should mention our retail prices are the same as Garry's.

Wonderful, it's good to see Garry being open and up for this, seeing his website was dead for a while, maybe he'll also take up new projects in the future (or finish Venom).

Quote from: whiskeyzulumike on Jun 07, 2024, 08:47 PMHey guys,


"Prince Charming" Coming soon

Thanks for picking up the mantle.  Is the Prince Charming coming from LAL or a creation from Royal?  Thanks

Hi All,

Since i am unable to upload photos directly here. Just a confirmation that this website is legit and confirmed by Garry via email of my inquires about that website.

Happy to apply screenshots if needed but wont be here since Admin didnt put the ''insert image features'' here.From the sound of this,i am confident that Royal Pheromones will deliver my order (Garry will be the one send the packaging as always)

From the chat with the owner of Royal Pheromones,he said that Garry allows him to temporarily sell LAL mones which he (the owner) and Garry are creating a new pheromone called '' Prince Charming'' where the creation is still in the early stages.

Thank you

Quote from: whiskeyzulumike on Jun 07, 2024, 10:24 PM

Quote from: Mr Highvalue on Jun 07, 2024, 10:08 PMDo you ship to Australia? If you do I may consider using you next time I want to order LAL products.

Yes we can.  Also I should mention our retail prices are the same as Garry's.

Hi, have you shipped anything to an EU country already (excludung UK) . What do you declare to customs in such case?

Hey great question.

I just spoke with Garry whom informed me of the best way to prepare labels to ship through customs worldwide.  That being said, Currently Garry is handling shipping, and once we find our groove orders will  go out next day (there may be some packages in the beginning that are slow, i apologize in advance.)  So Garry has a lot of experience with shipping through customs worldwide, avoiding prying eyes.  I won't say exactly what he does.

Also I have finished LALs new site, pending review. So that's exciting, I think shopify will be a good fit for him due to its all in one nature. We'll still stock LAL but our target market is more from paid advertising and organic seo, as to not step on Garry's toes.  (There's a lot of google traffic that goes to mainstream products, hundreds of thousand of people search for pheromone colognes every month worldwide.)

And yes, we will be stocking our own private new formulas designed and mixed by LAL.  So i'm super stoked for that, my goal is to make something unique and useful.  I have many years experience with Pheromones but of course there is always more to learn.  Our line of products is going to be a while however so don't hold your breathe!

Let me know if you have any questions, I try to jump on here from time to time.

Quote from: whiskeyzulumike on Jun 14, 2024, 01:44 PMHey great question.

I just spoke with Garry whom informed me of the best way to prepare labels to ship through customs worldwide.  That being said, Currently Garry is handling shipping, and once we find our groove orders will  go out next day (there may be some packages in the beginning that are slow, i apologize in advance.)  So Garry has a lot of experience with shipping through customs worldwide, avoiding prying eyes.  I won't say exactly what he does.

Also I have finished LALs new site, pending review. So that's exciting, I think shopify will be a good fit for him due to its all in one nature. We'll still stock LAL but our target market is more from paid advertising and organic seo, as to not step on Garry's toes.  (There's a lot of google traffic that goes to mainstream products, hundreds of thousand of people search for pheromone colognes every month worldwide.)

And yes, we will be stocking our own private new formulas designed and mixed by LAL.  So i'm super stoked for that, my goal is to make something unique and useful.  I have many years experience with Pheromones but of course there is always more to learn.  Our line of products is going to be a while however so don't hold your breathe!

Let me know if you have any questions, I try to jump on here from time to time.

Awesome would appreciate if you guys don't make it public advertising for new line

Just my $0.02.

You should keep low profile initially to not get under regulators radar. Even with Garry good work discipline is not able to solve paypal issue. Even amazon removed his products. So don't get flagged and targeted by big tech companies and regulators. They target his products as those products work really well compared any other products. As well as try to sell non related products vitamins and shitty stuff to obfuscate the really products Just like Alpha Dream sell some mind boosting supplements. You can run adverts vitamins and male wellness product and direct that traffic to your pheromone products. Lastly, Just follow garry advice atleast for initial years he is in business for many years then you can try and experiment and might get burned but anyway that will be your decision.

Quote from: sigma on Jun 14, 2024, 08:04 PMThey target his products as those products work really well compared any other products.

Are you saying there is a conspiracy to get Gary's products off the market because they work too well? 

Quote from: Riseaknight on Jun 14, 2024, 10:41 PMAre you saying there is a conspiracy to get Gary's products off the market because they work too well? 

It is a part of mass censorship program, where administrator of regulators and regulators ideologies doesn't align with purpose of product trying to achieve for it user i.e. product that undermines the female interests over the male pheromone product user (white knight trying to protect princess, but princess is allowed to do anything like giving blue ball). It is paypal, amazon, wordpress and all the big tech try to censor products like books, blogs and products that put female into disadvantage. That's why you see many steriods are banned that are used in pheromone products and that led to pheromone producer not able to produce the same product with maintaining there business legally. I don't want get into politics but it'll be very hard to sell the product that goes mainstream and undermines female interests (read as Liberal Fundamentalism).

Quote from: sigma on Jun 14, 2024, 08:04 PMAwesome would appreciate if you guys don't make it public advertising for new line

Not sure I understand what you mean.

Received my overdose gel today took about 10 working days to arrive to the uk thank you Whiskey for the amazing service  ;D

Quote from: ck on Jun 24, 2024, 02:38 PMReceived my overdose gel today took about 10 working days to arrive to the uk thank you Whiskey for the amazing service  ;D

anytime bro, enjoy!

Ordered from royal pheromones 14 days ago the fastest shipping to Australia I could get via USPS.

My order went from Hawaii to LA and is currently sitting in transit with customs there.

Is this normal procedure? That this type of mail goes from Hawaii to Australia via mainland USA?

I find it a little bit strange, that's all.

EDIT: it has been released by US customs. But still I find it hard to believe that it has to travel East first to eventually go West. Does Hawaii not have a customs facility?

Ended up picking up my order from the local PO yesterday.

Got some interesting samples thrown in now which I'd like to try but never have  including BW, SXD-9 and Lucky 7 Royale.

Quote from: Mr Level1 on Nov 19, 2024, 05:44 AMSo, I ordered for the first time at this webshop, that sells LAL products.

Apart from other difficulties with this webshop, I also did get two tracking numbers from RP for one order. Is this normal?

Did all orders from everyone arrive? Is this a reliable webshop?

(I did only get ultra short, offensive answers from them on earlier questions by mail, so I don't want to ask the webshop.)

Is this all legit?

My order arrived. But a few weeks later than scheduled.

I also received 2 tracking numbers. It turned out the 2nd tracking number was correct. They sent me an email about it.

I can only assume on the reason why there were 2 tracking numbers, but I won't post it here.

When I hear about these random "issues" it makes be either want to opt to use other merchants with better track records or simply order directly from Garry.

Ok, with the Black Friday holiday discount I pulled the trigger and bought 4 LAL products I didn't have (Possess and Possess Alpha, Primitive and Wolf). I'll let you know how my experience goes when I get them.

Quote from: Johnny Fever on Nov 29, 2024, 04:23 PMOk, with the Black Friday holiday discount I pulled the trigger and bought 4 LAL products I didn't have (Possess and Possess Alpha, Primitive and Wolf). I'll let you know how my experience goes when I get them.

Yes, please. Also if you can take a sniff of each and see if they smell and have the pheromonal scent specifically that matches the straight from Garry ones.

Quote from: Mr Level1 on Nov 30, 2024, 06:09 AMI'm still waiting for my order, that I placed on November 11. Now both tracking codes I got from them don't seem to move...

Let's hope my order will arrive some day.

I got my tracking number yesterday, so let's see how long things take.

Quote from: Mr Level1 on Nov 30, 2024, 06:09 AMI'm still waiting for my order, that I placed on November 11. Now both tracking codes I got from them don't seem to move...

Let's hope my order will arrive some day.

This happened to me as well when I ordered, both seemed to be stuck.

Turned out it was held with US customs (according to the USPS log) for almost 2 weeks before being sent on its way to me.

Like yourself I do not live in the USA, so this may have been the reason why it took a while to get moving. Mine arrived almost a month after it was expected to arrive, so be patient.

Quote from: Mr Level1 on Nov 30, 2024, 11:39 AM

Quote from: Johnny Fever on Nov 30, 2024, 07:32 AMI got my tracking number yesterday, so let's see how long things take.

And let's see if you get one or more tracking numbers. I'm not the only one why received more.

So far only got one tracking number and USPS says it should be in my hands by Monday. Interestingly enough, the origination for my shipment is Hawaii - I'm assuming that, unless Garry moved, that they're being shipped directly by him.

Quote from: Mr Level1 on Dec 04, 2024, 07:18 AMGood for you. I'm still waiting. It's close to a month now. My second tracking number was also from Hawaii, by the way.

I'm on the East Coast of the US, I don't know where you are, but if your shipment is international, that likely might be part of the delay.

Quote from: Mr Level1 on Dec 05, 2024, 08:34 AMI am in Europe, EU.

Today I got the request to pay import taxes for the package. Another ten euro added to the price.

Hey guys.  I run royal phero.  I'm also velinxs on the old pherotruth circa like 2013 era.  If you ever have any questions or concerns or issues please do email us at

hello [at] royalpheromones.com.

Mistakes unfortunately can happen sometimes but we do our best to provide a pleasant experience.

I did actually make Garry a new site, but he hasn't had the time to accept it and set it up, so royal phero is sort of a satellite for now for those that do not want to email order. Garry does  prefer email orders through him for his long time customers.

And yes everything ships from Garry, made to order.  sometimes there is issues with order management which results in duplicate labels or shit happening, we do our best to avoid issues and we are learning so we appreciate patience and just letting us know if you have any issues so that we can help. 🙏 I am always available to help just email me.

 We are not some huge e-commerce reseller or anything so if theres issue please just let me know.  I'm not on here much so email is better way of getting ahold of me.

In other news, we are working on some new formulas and will be opening up a testing SKU of 4.5mL (three sample tubes) soon for a couple different formulas that are mixed by Garry and designed by a couple members of the community. So that's exciting :)

Thanks
William

Thanks for introducing yourself and letting us know the back story. I'm sure it will be helpful to the pheromone community. And, let me extend a welcome in case I hadn't done so previously.

BTW: I edited the email address slightly to prevent the bots from scraping it. Most humans should be able how to write it in an email.

Quote from: Mr Level1 on Dec 08, 2024, 01:28 PMThough, my experience with e-mailing wasn't great. Multiple times I got short, offensive answers. Like the person (who didn't identify himself or herself in any mail) was trying to pick a fight.

Is it still acceptable to discuss that independently and uncensored here, while the vendor reads along? It feels like I might be banned from Royal Pheromones for giving this real review from this real person, when the vendor doesn't like what I write.

So, would I be forced to lie and sweet talk about a vendor, for not getting banned from it's webshop?

It's a dilemma for me. (And it should be a question everyone here should think about.) How to deal with that?

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In the mean time I hope my order from November 12 will come soon, since I am still waiting for it.

Mr Level1M: As noted on the bottom on the forum pages:

"Welcome to the PheroTruth Pheromones Forum - Dedicated to providing accurate, uncensored and unbiased reviews, advice and information on pheromones and pheromone companies, furthering Pheromone science and research, and helping those who want to learn more about pheromones, from real people who are experienced pheromone users.

PheroTruth is not owned or operated by any pheromone company and we are an uncensored forum."

Unless you do something that crosses a line legally, I believe you have the right to voice your opinions and concerns regarding any product or vendor of your choosing. Likewise, they have the ability to provide their viewpoint as well. We do live in a civilized society.

"There was a reason on the old Pherotruth that vendors couldn't participate in all the discussions."

The owners of Apex, Pheromone Treasures and Aroma Fero used to pop in now and then to answer questions and give updates.  I wish more vendors would share their input more often.

Quote from: RussianWolf on Dec 09, 2024, 09:09 AM"There was a reason on the old Pherotruth that vendors couldn't participate in all the discussions."

The owners of Apex, Pheromone Treasures and Aroma Fero used to pop in now and then to answer questions and give updates.  I wish more vendors would share their input more often.

Quote from: Mr Level1 on Dec 09, 2024, 09:35 AMMark Dallas had many reasons for not letting vendors in every thread.

I understand that on this forum vendors can see and post in every thread. That makes me a bit on guard with giving my independent and complete reviews and opinion about their products. If more members do so, it can affect the "truth" in "pherothruth", because people will self-censor themselves.

Remember that unless a vendor mentions that they're representing themselves, it's impossible to know. It wasn't until William mentioned being the operator of Royal that I had any connection between the two. With that said, there's nothing saying that any vendor could simply be on the DL and make posts spinning positive light whether they had a bad reputation or not.

Quote from: Mr Level1 on Dec 09, 2024, 09:35 AMThis is not whining, this is how it worked on the old forum. For a reason. To stay independent. Instead of defending vendors, members should defend other members.

Understand, but it's possible that members could pull a reverse uno card on a vendor as well. There are always two sides to every story.

Quote from: Mr Level1 on Dec 09, 2024, 09:35 AMNevertheless, if everyone else wants to have a forum where vendors have more influence (not only to answer questions, but also to do some surveillance of the reviews; even with your real name and address), I can look for some medium that has not the danger of becoming an advertising column, with socially acceptable reviews.

I like my forums with edgy reviews, with opinions that differ, with different kind of people, with users that don't like any vendor.

I get it, believe me. I run a tech forum site (which I may close down shortly due to lack of participation, as it's quite a niche interest area). While I've never had a vendor try to game the system, I've seen members try to defend a vendor when the product and the science behind it didn't hold much water. As I said before, as long as it doesn't cross some sort of legal boundary, I hope everyone will be truthful in their reviews and other correspondence here on PT 2.0 while sharing their experiences publicly.

OK, back to the subject at hand. Today, I was able to retrieve my package from Royal (shipped via Garry). Everything was well packed to survive USPS, and I also received four sample vials of products, which wasn't something I was counting on. At least for me, the experience was good.

Ordered possess alpha and nude from Royal Pheromones. Delivery to the UK took just over 2 weeks.

The tracking is weird as fook. I received 3 tracking numbers, one said the package has been delivered to an address in NY, another didn't work until the package arrived in the UK. The vendor was responsive to the emails I sent, but still not sure I understood it. I guess the pheros are shipped to the US, and someone mamually ships to the UK from there?

Not tested yet, but the PA smells like PA. EDIT: I take this back. It doesn't smell like Posess (D&G the one), it's a soapy vetivert scent, more like Voodoo than Possess.

One downside though is that I lost about a third of the bottle of PA. @Vendor: Probably wise to apply tape around the bottle lids if you're shopping them by air.

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Hey guys.

Just wanted to drop in and answer any questions.  I hope you're all having a blessed holiday season.

For fulfillment , Garry and Carla handles all the shipping.  I'll let them know about the possess bottle if you could email me order info.  If that ever happens please reach out. Last I ordered for personal use it  was taped. I wonder if customs may be took it off or if Carla changed it up.  If you'd like we can send out some samples sizes to replenish.

All shipping is automatically emailed out to you so as long as you use a real email address you will have received tracking numbers with your orders.  It's possible shopify email is missing sometimes I've heard other vendors complain of this.  I'll look into it.

I feel you on the weird shipping parts.  We have been experimenting with a new provider and it's caused some confusion with order fulfillment.  It's essentially a aggregator that utilizes ground advantage to a warehouse then first class package world wide. It's proven to be reliable but really weird tracking.

We have had some issues with USPS losing some orders.  It's really tough to audit all of them but I try to do so periodically.

And don't worry I'm not going to ban anyone. I'm fairly certain I know the interaction you're referring too high level and if it's who I think it was, yes it was a misinterpretation, taken as a threat, and caught me on a bad day. I could've handled differently.  So maybe we can start over, I'm not usually one to be short of rude just stretched very thin. Not an excuse. I hope you can accept my apology.

The epaq shipping provider... I have added back in the option of regular first class package, and for less confusion I'm considering dropping the epaq even though it allows me to offer $13 worldwide shipping vs 16-25+ usps first class in some instances.

Keep in mind it's just me then Carla and Garry in Hawaii right now, smoothing out the processes, and there arr occasionally issues when we we're starting up first few months and then issues with USPS. 

We don't have much control over orders once they are sent out but everything is sent out as essential oil in fats with no alcohol listed on them for best chance of no issues with customs. Also we mark it as about $5 per item on customs for minimal taxes.

 We've been pretty fortunate so far to have minimal reships, but if it's not brought to my attention that a package is lost there is a good chance I will not be able to tell because of how packages don't get scanned often when entering another country. So please let me know if any issues.

And thank you Johnny for the welcome.  As I said in another post I was velinxs in the original PT back in 2013-2015 era and I see a lot of familiar faces which is super cool. It's good to be back.

I've been slowly and methodically guiding people to pherotruth, as well as reddit to help grow the community.  I do this not just because it's good for business but because pheromones and pherotruth are something that personally changed my life ten years ago, and now I get the opportunity to help new guys with better living through pheromones.

Thank you and please don't hesitate to reach out if any questions or any order related issues.  Email is easiest way but you can also Whatsapp me at +1-612-419-4132 .  The bots have my numbers already it's okay. ;)

Some exciting news is coming up with Garry and new products that he tested out many years ago but never got to production due to merchant center issues and whatnot.  Will announce soon after first batch and some retesting.

 If I missed anyone's inquiry on this thread, I apologize, I'm on mobile, let me know if you've any burning questions or complaints, we aim to make everyone happy at the end of the day.

Cheers

- William

Edit: some grammar and for clarity.

ORDERED DEC 23 2024

RECIEVED DEC 28 2024

SO BASICALLY TOOK 2-3 EXCLUDING THE HOLIDAYS

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Quote from: ck on Jun 06, 2024, 12:17 PMI just googled lal pheromones as gary is not replying and found this site, i had a live chat with him earlier he seems genuine he said We are an authorized distributor for Garry, working on our own product also.

Ships from Garry directly. You can also email him for orders but he should also be up soon too. Same price either way.

Yeah Garry sometimes doesn't reply had mails not replied from him. Maybe this site owner teamed up with them, I can't. I see it is from the US so people from the US here can benefit from this. But yeah it's still fresh on the market.

HE REPLIES TO ME EVERY SINGLE TIME IN LESS THAN 48 HOURS
BEEN USING HIS PRODUCTS FOR 10 YEARS NOW

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Quote from: Alphonse on Dec 14, 2024, 04:27 PMOrdered possess alpha and nude from Royal Pheromones. Delivery to the UK took just over 2 weeks.

The tracking is weird as fook. I received 3 tracking numbers, one said the package has been delivered to an address in NY, another didn't work until the package arrived in the UK. The vendor was responsive to the emails I sent, but still not sure I understood it. I guess the pheros are shipped to the US, and someone mamually ships to the UK from there?

Not tested yet, but the PA smells like PA. EDIT: I take this back. It doesn't smell like Posess (D&G the one), it's a soapy vetivert scent, more like Voodoo than Possess.

One downside though is that I lost about a third of the bottle of PA. @Vendor: Probably wise to apply tape around the bottle lids if you're shopping them by air.

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Hey can you send me an email with your order details? so we can look into this and get a replenishment for you. hello@royalpheromones.com

Also, happy new years everyone. Hope it was a good one.

Hello,

this is interesting, i am really happy that Garry will be able to start selling his awesome products normally again,

i remember since 2015 and Garry is having issues either with his merchant or website,

out of all the nones i have, Garry ones always constant with the effects,

since i am back to nones after 3 years stop, i will be in need to make new order from garry,

i have noticed as well the prices has changed a bit, but that is an understandable increase with the current situations we are living,

Is Garry still offering sales on his birthday?

Cheers

guys i plan to order 3 pheromones like bad wolf i wonder are they real pheromones whats the difference between the bw they sell and the original one before 2019

Quote from: Dguyhf80 on Jan 12, 2025, 03:16 AMguys i plan to order 3 pheromones like bad wolf i wonder are they real pheromones whats the difference between the bw they sell and the original one before 2019

The only difference is a slight difference in the scent. The effects should be the same.

Just wanted to say thanks to William of Royal Pheromones.

I lost about a third of a bottle of Possess Alpha in transit for the last order I made.  William was quick to reach out and offered to send a few samples to make up the lost precious mones.

William went above and beyond and sent a whole bottle of Possess Alpha.  Its definitely not something he needed to do, and I wanted to thank him for generosity and exemplary customer service.

Cheers!

A

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Speaking about discount,

i remember Garry used to throw a big sale on his birthday, also in December,

since i was not following, i cant tell if last December there was a sale or not, also few time Garry did some sale on valentines day,

Any of those coming?

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