Phenylethylamine (PEA) is the chemical that's often called the love chemical, apparently, it's released when people fall for each other.
I've made a batch of it diluted in ethanol which has around 18mcg per drop to test its effect as a mone and it's pretty good. Just two drops give you some upbeat self effects, though it doesn't last long, I'd say like it lasts 15 min with that mix. I tried taking my dropper bottle to some dates and gathering. Works best on dates, I can just apply it in the restroom real quick and then it gives this sort of sudden happiness feeling, it's pretty subtle though so you still have to stir it.
As an example one girl who I knew went out with me, she has a boyfriend currently( though it's this kind of relationship she just 'agreed' to). After I applied the PEA 6 drops during our meeting it started to 'feel even more fun' can't describe it rationally but she started to touch me more, also we drank some beer so that helped. But she's really anti-touch though we have a great relation. Even started to joke around asking if I'd steal her from her bf. Later that day she wrote me a dozen how it was a great meeting and all bla bla.
It also has this weird beautifying effect I think. At a gathering for example I was with a lot of people in a table and talked. I applied 2 drops of this and suddenly one woman started to look better or like it totally blurred my senses rather, from a 6 to a 7 or something, suddenly you care less so immediately I went to some hotter chick not to imprint myself lol. Yea be careful with this one.
Anyway it's a nice thing to play around with
I purchased some PEA and Hordenine, so I will give my experience report when I test them out
Used PEA today with a 30mcg dose on this one girl, we drank two beers and I was wearing IMPI initially. Went to the toilet and applied the PEA and got back to her on the couch. I was taking a sip of my beer and like suddenly (like 20 seconds in) she just leaned her head on my shoulder, and started to smile more intensely, more happy mood, etc it literally doubled the positivity in her. She was all touchy (before there was only light stuff).
On the way back when we got out of the venue I held her hand "to walk across the street" (really it was just a test to see how she'd react) and I thought well it's valentines day after all, so I just kissed her to which she kissed me back, it felt kinda.. imprinting and emotional and all that.
Will pointed out she told me during the meeting about like another guy she was "hanging out with" 2 times and saw potential. So this test even more confirms PEA is powerful, however it could be just IMPI. Or PEA is like and amplifier of some sorts.
Someone needs to have a mone on and if the vibe is bad to apply it and see if it amplifies the negative or imprints positive. It makes a lot of sense that PEA would give only positive effects cause it's the chemical of love, however we all know reverse imprinting and that you can imprint really bad things.. So those are my thoughts about it. I did use PEA when the atmosphere was neutral and got positive reactions so I'm inclined to go toward that theory.
P.s: The beautifying effect is there, it annoys me cause I consciously know this is happening and still I enjoy it which makes it more annoying, that's why I recommend do this with a girl you find attractive even at the very least.
Quote from: Mr Level1 on Oct 28, 2024, 08:40 AMQuote from: TracerX on Oct 28, 2024, 07:03 AMI got mine from a local chemist, it is said "for lab services" and not for consumption. However it did say 90.1% purity, idk maybe there are other substances to balance it there. I saw PEA + HCL in some body builder shops but I didn't buy it cause it's in pills I am kinda lazy to break down pills. We can continue in the PEA thread yea.
There we go.
Do you use it often?
I myself add it quite often to my combo's and singles. I made a big bottle, with Neroli scent, which I like a lot.
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I get some sort of after effect, the next time I see people, when wearing it. They seem extra happy to see me. Like the guy who makes every party worth visiting. Not particularly romantic (it can go that way, especially combined with something sexual), but definitely an imprint.
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I think it contributed to make a woman fall in love with me. I did wear that consistently around her, while I did try out different combo's. Like for real. Normally she would be quite out of my league. But who knows, maybe it was a normal process. Those things happen.
Do you have similar experiences?
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Do you also put a MOA inhibitor in your PEA mix?
As said: I do so. Even in a higher amount then the PEA itself. I use Hordenine for that.
No not often, I used to use it often when there's some barrier with a girl. I usually would take it with me and apply on spot to get the strongest effect on a girl, it gives me like a 15 minute window opportunity to get a lot closer to the girl.
Right now I don't have my mix cause I moved out to a new place and I had to get rid of it. Probably at some point I'll make a new batch.
Yeah I had situations where girls suddenly would get imprinting from it. I wouldn't use the term "out of my league" but lets say a girl who doesn't view me as a potential partner, I had situations where after using PEA at that night the girl changed her opinion and after a few more dates we had sex.
I actually thought once that PEA gives a sort of godmode in which it's a good time to kiss a girl.
I went on a date with this girl who was a white blonde 23yo girl, definitely an extravert. From the previous meetings the convo was nice but really not much sexual/love anything beyond what you'd call friendly.
She doesn't trust men. So on this meeting I came with BW 3 drops and took the PEA with me.
We drank two beers and started to laugh and smile, a bit of friendly touch.
I went to the restroom and applied PEA on the sleeves of my jacked, I aimed for 6 drops but it spilled a bit so more like 10 drops lol.
I went back to the table and we talked again, could definitely feel the PEA kicking in. I'm not sure if I use the right words to describe it but it was a feeling of a nice light-headedness, and I saw beautifying effects, the girl looked more smooth attractive, she was an 8/10 now suddenly like 9.5/10 lol.
The girl herself was more tingly and like in a super fun mood smiling and laughing. So I took the opportunity to kiss her. And we did, all seemed to go well we made out and had a good evening. However the next day she said she feels confused with mixed emotions. Long story short she blocked me lol
And I felt kinda weird like I think I got a mini-reverse imprint from that as well.
As for the MOA I don't mix it with that.
I just mix it with 96% ethanol and apply on the clothes
Quote from: Mr Level1 on Oct 29, 2024, 11:56 AMQuote from: TracerX on Oct 29, 2024, 06:34 AMNo not often, I used to use it often when there's some barrier with a girl. I usually would take it with me and apply on spot to get the strongest effect on a girl, it gives me like a 15 minute window opportunity to get a lot closer to the girl.
Right now I don't have my mix cause I moved out to a new place and I had to get rid of it. Probably at some point I'll make a new batch.
Yeah I had situations where girls suddenly would get imprinting from it. I wouldn't use the term "out of my league" but lets say a girl who doesn't view me as a potential partner, I had situations where after using PEA at that night the girl changed her opinion and after a few more dates we had sex.
I actually thought once that PEA gives a sort of godmode in which it's a good time to kiss a girl.
I went on a date with this girl who was a white blonde 23yo girl, definitely an extravert. From the previous meetings the convo was nice but really not much sexual/love anything beyond what you'd call friendly.
She doesn't trust men. So on this meeting I came with BW 3 drops and took the PEA with me.
We drank two beers and started to laugh and smile, a bit of friendly touch.
I went to the restroom and applied PEA on the sleeves of my jacked, I aimed for 6 drops but it spilled a bit so more like 10 drops lol.
I went back to the table and we talked again, could definitely feel the PEA kicking in. I'm not sure if I use the right words to describe it but it was a feeling of a nice light-headedness, and I saw beautifying effects, the girl looked more smooth attractive, she was an 8/10 now suddenly like 9.5/10 lol.
The girl herself was more tingly and like in a super fun mood smiling and laughing. So I took the opportunity to kiss her. And we did, all seemed to go well we made out and had a good evening. However the next day she said she feels confused with mixed emotions. Long story short she blocked me lol
And I felt kinda weird like I think I got a mini-reverse imprint from that as well.
As for the MOA I don't mix it with that.
I just mix it with 96% ethanol and apply on the clothes
Thanks a lot for your extended experiences and insights!
I think I see the same effects: breaking down resistance, creating some imprint (though it might also create reversed imprint), easier to escalate, maybe some beautifying. I also see that I grab some extra attention from bystanders and and some crushy feelings while dating.
It could be that there was some imprinting with that particular woman you decribed, which she didn't want to feel, which she realized the next morning. Or possibly some shame of het own disinhibited behavior.
When you want to make a new batch and you want to make it work for hours, let me know. The MAO inhibitor makes it last much longer. I also first did make it without that too, which also gave me this much shorter window.
I always have some fun when I realize that I basically spray the happy molecule from chocolate on myself. That's a cloud which is hard to resist for a lot of people.
I think the problem was that it's like a shot of PEA that comes out of nowhere suddenly in a big dose, you're just not ready for that. But you never know, it did work as it should but there were missing elements in the chemistry.
Do you apply it on skin or on cloth? I noticed if I apply PEA it gives me a feeling of a weird twitch on the tips of my fingers lol. Kinda weird, I tried making a solution once with essential oils and coconut oils still gave me a weird feeling. So I only apply it on clothes
I'd say I used 40mcg more or less
I started looking into 'Phenylethylamine'.The effect sound great and intense but where can you get PEA?It doesnt last long which is a sad thing If it doesnt,It would be one of Goated Singles.
I currerntly playing AV with singles molecules like B-nol,A-nol etc
Quote from: TracerX on Oct 29, 2024, 06:34 AMQuote from: Mr Level1 on Oct 28, 2024, 08:40 AMQuote from: TracerX on Oct 28, 2024, 07:03 AMI got mine from a local chemist, it is said "for lab services" and not for consumption. However it did say 90.1% purity, idk maybe there are other substances to balance it there. I saw PEA + HCL in some body builder shops but I didn't buy it cause it's in pills I am kinda lazy to break down pills. We can continue in the PEA thread yea.
There we go.
Do you use it often?
I myself add it quite often to my combo's and singles. I made a big bottle, with Neroli scent, which I like a lot.
-
I get some sort of after effect, the next time I see people, when wearing it. They seem extra happy to see me. Like the guy who makes every party worth visiting. Not particularly romantic (it can go that way, especially combined with something sexual), but definitely an imprint.
-
I think it contributed to make a woman fall in love with me. I did wear that consistently around her, while I did try out different combo's. Like for real. Normally she would be quite out of my league. But who knows, maybe it was a normal process. Those things happen.
Do you have similar experiences?
-
Do you also put a MOA inhibitor in your PEA mix?
As said: I do so. Even in a higher amount then the PEA itself. I use Hordenine for that.
No not often, I used to use it often when there's some barrier with a girl. I usually would take it with me and apply on spot to get the strongest effect on a girl, it gives me like a 15 minute window opportunity to get a lot closer to the girl.
Right now I don't have my mix cause I moved out to a new place and I had to get rid of it. Probably at some point I'll make a new batch.
Yeah I had situations where girls suddenly would get imprinting from it. I wouldn't use the term "out of my league" but lets say a girl who doesn't view me as a potential partner, I had situations where after using PEA at that night the girl changed her opinion and after a few more dates we had sex.
I actually thought once that PEA gives a sort of godmode in which it's a good time to kiss a girl.
I went on a date with this girl who was a white blonde 23yo girl, definitely an extravert. From the previous meetings the convo was nice but really not much sexual/love anything beyond what you'd call friendly.
She doesn't trust men. So on this meeting I came with BW 3 drops and took the PEA with me.
We drank two beers and started to laugh and smile, a bit of friendly touch.
I went to the restroom and applied PEA on the sleeves of my jacked, I aimed for 6 drops but it spilled a bit so more like 10 drops lol.
I went back to the table and we talked again, could definitely feel the PEA kicking in. I'm not sure if I use the right words to describe it but it was a feeling of a nice light-headedness, and I saw beautifying effects, the girl looked more smooth attractive, she was an 8/10 now suddenly like 9.5/10 lol.
The girl herself was more tingly and like in a super fun mood smiling and laughing. So I took the opportunity to kiss her. And we did, all seemed to go well we made out and had a good evening. However the next day she said she feels confused with mixed emotions. Long story short she blocked me lol
And I felt kinda weird like I think I got a mini-reverse imprint from that as well.
As for the MOA I don't mix it with that.
I just mix it with 96% ethanol and apply on the clothes
Hi Tracer,I cant remember exactly but have a mind memories picture of you said you use ''Casanova+Pea'' somewhere is that right? Casanova i havent test enough but i find S1ck lines not cocentrated enough and Alpha Q is overrated.True love is great but Veteran claims woman can control their feelings with TL
Quote from: SigmaWolf on Nov 07, 2024, 10:52 AMI started looking into 'Phenylethylamine'.The effect sound great and intense but where can you get PEA?It doesnt last long which is a sad thing If it doesnt,It would be one of Goated Singles.
I currerntly playing AV with singles molecules like B-nol,A-nol etc
It's gonna be hard to get in Australia.
Quote from: He-Mone on Nov 07, 2024, 11:17 AMQuote from: SigmaWolf on Nov 07, 2024, 10:52 AMI started looking into 'Phenylethylamine'.The effect sound great and intense but where can you get PEA?It doesnt last long which is a sad thing If it doesnt,It would be one of Goated Singles.
I currerntly playing AV with singles molecules like B-nol,A-nol etc
It's gonna be hard to get in Australia.
Do you know any company that sell this? Perhaps they can sneak it into Aus just like Omn1-B3L
SigmaWolfS As for where to get it in Australia I'm not sure, maybe bodybuilder shops have it or some labs. Someone in the old forum once posted of getting molecules from the darknet, but I can't recommend that.
Yeah it worked good with CAS. Cause CAS can sometime be a bit chaotic, the PEA effect help steer it back to the right direction.
As for the duration, you guys can try experimenting with a higher percentage of carrier oil. I keep it simple use alcohol only and apply it on sight for a spike effect, which isn't always the most comfortable choice, but that's how I do it, I really didn't wanna mess with oil doses
Hey Tracer, I had thought about this as i recently been playing with More concentrated mixes.
Casanova from my single try and words on the street is that during summer,it will hit instantly which is a good edge.Would you say this CAS Solo hit instantly in the club? If so what kind of hit reaction are they and are they potent?
As far as i am aware,Casanova could be a line fall under garry and either way.S1ck and LAL product mixes are never concentrated enough.I have seen way more potent hit from my cocentrated mixes.
Would love to hear your thoughts here :)
Quote from: TracerX on Nov 07, 2024, 11:34 AMSigmaWolfS As for where to get it in Australia I'm not sure, maybe bodybuilder shops have it or some labs. Someone in the old forum once posted of getting molecules from the darknet, but I can't recommend that.
Yeah it worked good with CAS. Cause CAS can sometime be a bit chaotic, the PEA effect help steer it back to the right direction.
As for the duration, you guys can try experimenting with a higher percentage of carrier oil. I keep it simple use alcohol only and apply it on sight for a spike effect, which isn't always the most comfortable choice, but that's how I do it, I really didn't wanna mess with oil doses
In other words...
Can you please kindly share the kind of hit from Instant (summer) Or Dates (not instant) with CAS solo at your sweet spot aka 4 sprays thanks
How are the girl reacting?
I read some report say that it attract model quality woman , can be turn off for short woman. Can a girl suddenly out of nowhere show indication that they want you.
Does Av in winter ( not hot enough) enough to affect a girl near by you to these level if you don't make eye contact or open them up ?From reading, it seems to attract tall model Quality woman like a flock of Birds while it has hard molecule to wash off linger till next day.
Thanks
SW
Do you guys use regular, micronized, or ultra-micronized PEA? I will give ultra-micronized a try.
Just purchased this one: https://www.amazon.com/Ultra-Micronized-Palmitoylethanolamide-Pea-Supplement/dp/B0CQ8WSXSP
Thanks for the heads up. I'll try it anyway and report back.
Quote from: TracerX on Nov 07, 2024, 11:34 AMSigmaWolfS As for where to get it in Australia I'm not sure, maybe bodybuilder shops have it or some labs. Someone in the old forum once posted of getting molecules from the darknet, but I can't recommend that.
Yeah it worked good with CAS. Cause CAS can sometime be a bit chaotic, the PEA effect help steer it back to the right direction.
As for the duration, you guys can try experimenting with a higher percentage of carrier oil. I keep it simple use alcohol only and apply it on sight for a spike effect, which isn't always the most comfortable choice, but that's how I do it, I really didn't wanna mess with oil doses
Hi Tracer,
Found this on Ebay for PEA : Phenylethylamine HCL (Pea) Powder (125 Grams) (https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/186793151505)
Wanted to ask if PEA HCL is the same as PEA
Thanks
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Hmmm Chatgpt said this : ''Euphoria in Humans: PEA works internally by stimulating dopamine and norepinephrine release in the brain, creating feelings of euphoria. This effect occurs primarily when ingested or absorbed into the bloodstream, not when smelled or encountered externally.''
Any input if this works via smell diluted liquid yet
Looks like a good source for PEA. I'm not an expert though, check the purity levels.
As for the second. ChatGPT will only cover the molecules that are widespread, also there's not much research on PEA when used in a perfume. I can definitely say applying it on skin gives me twitches and weird sensations.
Also I'd like to add one thing that's good to keep in mind. The nose's primary function while breathing air is to analyse molecules we cannot see. I'm am quite certain it might recognize PEA and give a reaction, be it an unconscious one.
it would be interesting to use Hedione as a carrier oil
Quote from: Mr Level1 on Dec 08, 2024, 08:16 AMQuote from: nephil on Dec 07, 2024, 06:22 PMDo you guys use regular, micronized, or ultra-micronized PEA? I will give ultra-micronized a try.
Just purchased this one: https://www.amazon.com/Ultra-Micronized-Palmitoylethanolamide-Pea-Supplement/dp/B0CQ8WSXSP
I'm sorry to tell you, but Palmitoylethanolamide (CID 4671; C18H37NO2; 299.5 g/mol) is a different chemical then Phenylethylamine (CID 1001; C8H11N; 121.18g/mol).
You might get some results from Palmitoylethanolamide, though probably not the same as from Phenylethylamine. I am curious if you get any results. Let us know if you get anything out of this.
So briefly and not to derail, I used Palmitoylethanolamide around 10 times.
Selfies: light sedative that I would to compare to Nyquil, sort of mediciney not a pleasant "buzz".
Effects on others: It seems to slightly mellow out people but no interesting interactions.
Again this is not the PEA (Phenylethylamine) in topic but a different PEA (Palmitoylethanolamide) I bought by mistake. I dissolved 750mg in 10 mL of alcohol and used 2-10 sprays.
He used around 9300 mcg/ spray, and used 2-10 sprays.
It's a concentrated base mone not ready to use.
He should test it at 100 mcg per spray from 2-5 sprays
Guys, I did a really interesting experiment to make PEA last longer and spread a little better:
I mixed the PEA powder with alcohol and glycerin oil + vitamin E to make it more stable.
I added hordenine powder to prolong its effect.
But the icing on the cake, I added an Aphrodisiac Peptide, PT-141 aerosol, I mixed it on the compound.
First experiment, with a woman my age 45, immediately on familiar terms as if she had known me for years, enthusiastic with flirting and sexual conversation
But I need to do other tests with girls before giving a judgment
Quote from: Mr Level1 on Feb 16, 2025, 11:30 AMQuote from: He-Mone on Feb 16, 2025, 11:23 AMPT-141 does absolutely nothing as a pheromone IME
I never tried it.
Did you try it in mcg amounts, to see what effects it had on people?
Yeah tried a range of doses. I'm happy to be proven wrong though.
PEA 50 mg/ml
Ordenine 20 mg/ml
Propylene glycol 90-95%
Vitamin E 2%
PT-141 5mg/ml
"I need to do more field tests. But my impression is that the PT-141 is a boost