Let's talk about the best seduction programs that are out there to get LAID. Read: Hookup. Fuck. ONS. Sex.
It's not the best programs for getting a GF or wife.
Or finding your next best female friend.
With so much misinformation out there and the crap that's out there these days like Bobby Rio's stuff just frightens me.
Who can give up some REALLY effective seduction programs to get girls off dating apps like TINDER etc and into Hookups etc without looking like Brad Pitt Or Depp at 21 yo.
Happy New Year 2025!
I think I found it.
Quote from: Dsouza on Jan 07, 2025, 09:24 PMI think I found it.
Don't leave us hanging...
Jeffy's "execute the program" worked pretty damn well for me on Tinder 7 years ago, but me and him both have kind of similar goofy personalities, it might not work as well for the more suave types.
If you want Tinder, try Alex's Playing with fire, his whole channel is built on Tinder game. I had a look at his program, it's very detailed. And will help you get better chances for sure.
However it would be even better if you manage to find a seduction community with mentors who conduct seminars/bootcamps, that would tailor the techniques to you.
Personally, I'm not convinced about the PUA game. I've watched his and many similar channels, and simply put, most men aren't going to be as fortunate as they try to make it out to be. I think the hype is only to get you to spring for their courses.
It's pretty much a given that 80%+ (perhaps closer to 90%) of today's women are looking for the top 5% of guys. Looks, height, etc., all play into it. If you're short, socially challenged (not to mention follically challenged), you're pretty much screwed. Mones may help, but if a lady doesn't find you attractive from the start, they'll simply shut you down and not be interested.
Quote from: Johnny Fever on Jan 08, 2025, 06:13 PMPersonally, I'm not convinced about the PUA game. I've watched his and many similar channels, and simply put, most men aren't going to be as fortunate as they try to make it out to be. I think the hype is only to get you to spring for their courses.
It's pretty much a given that 80%+ (perhaps closer to 90%) of today's women are looking for the top 5% of guys. Looks, height, etc., all play into it. If you're short, socially challenged (not to mention follically challenged), you're pretty much screwed. Mones may help, but if a lady doesn't find you attractive from the start, they'll simply shut you down and not be interested.
FACTS!!! 💯 I second this just be yourself at the end of the day if she stays, she stays if she goes, she goes
Confidence goes a long way, even if she goes she'll be back well some of them at least just as long as you're a man down to the core and she can feel it within her bones
Reading and watching techniques are great, but if you are not going out, you will not get laid. Two years ago, I got out of a 6 year relationship and didn't know how to date. It would take me 4 months of going on dates almost every weekend before I was able to get a one-night stand. At the time I was looking for a girlfriend with a successful career so went out with more girls who were goal orientated, it would take a bit before I got laid again. Then, I found a girl was always horny and had a career that we hit it off for 5 months. After her I found a girlfriend who I had sex with on the first date who was a cop. After 9 months, we broke up and it would take me like 3 months to get laid again. Mind you I did not have a job, was drinking, and did not want to really date at the time. I got a job and went out with 3-4 girls before finding the girl I am currently f*cking. We had sex on the first date within an hour of meeting each other in person.
I have a dating profile but a lot of online dating is a numbers game and what your profile says. I am not really putting in an effort to meet the love of my life, so my profile has been more aggressive as well as my game is tailored to that. So if you want high-quality girls, it might be showing a different type of game (successful career, car, provider) vs a girl you just want to f*ck (leading, making out, having her grab your crouch through your jeans). I am masculine with both by holding their hands, touching, opening doors, and leading though.
Mode Zero + 2 pumps venom
Quote from: Phero_SA on Jan 27, 2025, 05:58 AM2 pumps venom
did venom released? Hope you're referring garry unreleased project venom?
What about the venom project?
Unfortunately it's not offered at Garry's own website (https://www.pheromonesperfumeandcologne.com/pheromonesformentoattractwomen.html), not at Royal pheromones (https://royalpheromones.com/) and not at Aroma Phero (https://www.aromafero.co.uk/product/venom-pheromone-gel-for-men-30ml-liquid-alchemy-labs/).
So, probably it's something like this (https://venomscent.com/en-nl/products/venom-16) or some other Tiktok scent.
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Interesting! Is that Gary, or someone reselling his products like Aromafero.co.uk? Has anyone ordered from them? Your thoughts?
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Thanks, Level1
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Now, back to the regular scheduled program! BEST GAME FOR GETTING LAID IN 2025 😁
Has anyone gotten a NEW LAY this year, or is everybody still dipping into old 2024 YUMMY? 😋
I'm not going to mention which online app but they had hot girls on there and I was paying $100 CAD a day just to chat with them and get them to tell me they are interested in a date to find out they wouldn't chat off the app , leave their number, call me on mine, leave their email or contact me on mine.. So i think this is a TRICK to just get desparate buyers to hang in there and keep paying for credit renewal membership.
Quote from: Dsouza on Jan 29, 2025, 06:15 PMI'm not going to mention which online app but they had hot girls on there and I was paying $100 CAD a day just to chat with them and get them to tell me they are interested in a date to find out they wouldn't chat off the app , leave their number, call me on mine, leave their email or contact me on mine.. So i think this is a TRICK to just get desparate buyers to hang in there and keep paying for credit renewal membership.
It's scam. Get off the app.
Quote from: Dsouza on Jan 29, 2025, 06:15 PMI'm not going to mention which online app but they had hot girls on there and I was paying $100 CAD a day just to chat with them and get them to tell me they are interested in a date to find out they wouldn't chat off the app , leave their number, call me on mine, leave their email or contact me on mine..
I think you should name them so educated folks can make the decision to avoid it.
Quote from: Johnny Fever on Jan 30, 2025, 08:47 PMQuote from: Dsouza on Jan 29, 2025, 06:15 PMI'm not going to mention which online app but they had hot girls on there and I was paying $100 CAD a day just to chat with them and get them to tell me they are interested in a date to find out they wouldn't chat off the app , leave their number, call me on mine, leave their email or contact me on mine..
I think you should name them so educated folks can make the decision to avoid it.
I second this, as a community were here to help one another. Theres no point in gatekeeping smh
Quote from: Dsouza on Jan 29, 2025, 06:15 PMI'm not going to mention which online app but they had hot girls on there and I was paying $100 CAD a day just to chat with them and get them to tell me they are interested in a date to find out they wouldn't chat off the app , leave their number, call me on mine, leave their email or contact me on mine.. So i think this is a TRICK to just get desparate buyers to hang in there and keep paying for credit renewal membership.
DESPERATE DOES WHAT DESPERATE DOES, you Desperate Horny Frog! 🐸
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Hey, D, I'm not that HOT, but I'll talk to you for HALF of that price. ;D
Quote from: Mr Level1 on Jan 31, 2025, 07:22 AMQuote from: Dsouza on Jan 29, 2025, 06:15 PMI'm not going to mention which online app but they had hot girls on there and I was paying $100 CAD a day just to chat with them and get them to tell me they are interested in a date to find out they wouldn't chat off the app , leave their number, call me on mine, leave their email or contact me on mine.. So i think this is a TRICK to just get desparate buyers to hang in there and keep paying for credit renewal membership.
Even when they would chat outside the app, is 100 CAD a day the right price for that? Sound more like a brothel then a dating app.
They get you with $30 CAD at a time.... little do you know your membership wears off so quickly.
Quote from: MMM on Feb 01, 2025, 07:45 AMQuote from: Dsouza on Jan 29, 2025, 06:15 PMI'm not going to mention which online app but they had hot girls on there and I was paying $100 CAD a day just to chat with them and get them to tell me they are interested in a date to find out they wouldn't chat off the app , leave their number, call me on mine, leave their email or contact me on mine.. So i think this is a TRICK to just get desparate buyers to hang in there and keep paying for credit renewal membership.
DESPERATE DOES WHAT DESPERATE DOES, you Desperate Horny Frog! 🐸
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Hey, D, I'm not that HOT, but I'll talk to you for HALF of that price. ;D
I am not desparate MMM. I used advanced game that pulled HB9-10 women chasing me literally begging for me to respond. All answered with creative, intellectual , and thoughtful responses so I believed it was REAL. It couldn't be fake nor AI. The problem is the website is a scam that phishes money out of clients.
Once I lost $100 CAD I ended my membership. So I wasn't phished out of thousands or anything like that. I spotted the scam and got out of there.
Just in case there is even a scintilla of real attraction from these women , I left all of them my phone number and website so they could get a hold of me as a last resort.
I know I've used some of the apps, and being one who isn't traditionally attractive, I have few real matches and often see typical catfish attempts. I've never even gotten as far as having so-called "matches" attempt to "encourage" me to pay for conversation and the like outside of the app. In my case, it's more of wasting money on premium features so I can pre-screen what few matches I get, only to see that they were far from truthful (or real).
Quote from: Mr Level1 on Feb 01, 2025, 02:36 PMQuote from: Dsouza on Feb 01, 2025, 12:41 PMThey get you with $30 CAD at a time.... little do you know your membership wears off so quickly.
Okay, I see. And as you stated that was counting up to about 100 CAD a day. I don't know how many days you had this account, but it sounds pretty expensive to me. Call me cheap if you want, but after spending 30 CAD (or the equivalent in euro's in my case) on women that don't want to meet me or even want to talk to me in whatsapp, I would quit paying. (Probably before paying anything at all, I would have researched the website/app before paying, to see what the experiences of other people are.) Though, I followed your posts about your spending pattern on courses, methodes, mones, jewellery and dating platforms on this forum and it seems that this is not a lot of money for you to spend on attempts to get a date.
So, do you still want to keep everyone in the dark about which site or app this was?
I spent $100 CAD in two days then ended my membership. $100 CAD is a small price to a millionaire, yet no one wants to be taken advantage of by scams.
Is it a scam or not? Let me give the women on there up to 1 year to contact me by phone or website, only then can I make the statement with real certainty. Real HB10 Supermodels can take up to a year to materialize in terms of dating in the real world.
In the interim I recommend anyone on a credit-like site of any sort to keep an eye out on whether or not your interactions are leading to dates or phone numbers or if the site keeps asking you to renew. Use your comment sense and judgement.
Dsouza
For me, it was the Tao of Badass by Joshua Pellicer followed up by How to Date Multiple Women also by Joshua Pellicer.
I read and applied the first book when I had been recently dumped by my 10 girlfriend in Taiwan of 10 years when I moved to Japan. (Her previous bf was an HK TV star, #2 behind Edison Chen for years, but I totally forget his name, however he kept trying to get her back). Anyways. I was a total simpleton back then, but finally started to get a few positive interactions with women post reading The Tao of Badass...
3 weeks in, I pulled the trigger on his 2nd book, the aforementioned How to Date Multiple Women, and I had 2 new girlfriends within 24h and 5 within a seven week period. (You MUST put in the homework if it's mentioned in the book(s)).
Over the next 8 years, I usually had 3-4 girlfriends openly (occasionally 5) and busted an estimated 1000+ condoms during this time (occasionally all 4 gfs would all be late). Fridays were incredible with more times than I can remember with 3 women in a single day (only the lunch gf knew about the others).
Never had 4 in 24h though.
2020...
Corona, caused 3 to ditch me within 3 months (main gf still with me).
Upon reflection, I absolutely don't miss the constant worry of missed periods and mainly just practice game without pulling the trigger during the summer months...
Awaiting the gel to be finally be approved before it's "game on!" and I no longer worry about busting condoms. (Have 100+ still in my fridge of these extra strong Lifestyles that gays swear by... the Japanese ones suck/too thin.. they fell great though)
Ps. I also had spent 6-10k on other dating experts during this time, but Joshua's 2 books were about 45% of the puzzle.
Pps. Mones are the other piece of the puzzle, with specific mones for specific women. Some LOVED A1, my main hates it, one p83 was her thing, another TAC; universally though, all loved none.
Ppps. The Deck of Destiny really helps my closing rate if I can get her to meet.
Quote from: Mr Level1 on Feb 02, 2025, 07:40 AMThanks for elaborating.
No matter how poor or rich somebody is, it's good to wonder is there is really a dating website or app, where real HB10 Supermodels are gathering together a dollar here and a dollar there on daily basis, while they keep a bunch of guys dangling, but never meet them or even go outside the platform with the guys. (Every message within the platform does makes them money. So, no messaging outside the platform.) Most of the time these real HB10 Supermodels turn out to be a room full of forced workers in some poor country. Also the scammers have found their way to AI and photoshop.
What I quoted from you in bold is my biggest gripe out there, given how easy it is to create a fake online persona and photoshop picture and use AI for responses. It's getting scary. Sometimes I think the only way to women is daily real life.
As for bars got kicked out of another one last night.. these retail resto-bars don't like people picking up. Need to hit the night life for sure. Even shopping malls these days are cracking down on people picking up with the amount of sex-trafficking that's going on in the Toronto Area.
It's too bad good guys like you and I are paying the price for all of this.
But that is how the chips fall....
Okay I want to make a bold statement.
I thought I'd conceal this for a year to be sure but what put the final nail in the scam coffin is I was being email by 30 hb9-10's every two hours this Valentine's Day. I knew it had to be a hoax now.
The website with the most beautiful models in the world that only chat online instead of giving out their number or meeting up (in order to keep you paying for credits) is :
Dating.com
I bought the membership through an OKCupid site. But it doesn't read OKCUpid it reads dating.com
You have been warned!
Quote from: Dsouza on Feb 14, 2025, 06:32 PMDating.com
I bought the membership through an OKCupid site. But it doesn't read OKCUpid it reads dating.com
You have been warned!
Dating.com is owned by Social Discovery Group, which also owns CupidMedia (an Aussie site), Di Mil (South Asia), DateMyAge, and Kiseki (Japan). If you disagree with how SDG runs Dating.com, you might also want to avoid those other sites.
For your information, OkCupid is one of many dating sites owned by The Match Group and not affiliated with SDG, as far as I can tell. However, Match Group does appear to own Tinder, Match.com, Meetic, OkCupid, Hinge, Plenty of Fish, OurTime, and The League. I've heard that many of the sites under the Match.com umbrella do things to attempt to extract money from you while providing a less-than-stellar user experience, keeping real matches away from your view, shadow-banning, etc. Best to vote with your wallet. if your intent is to use those services. While I personally tried a service not related to either of the two groups mentioned above, my intent was to try it only for a week as a non-paying member to see how dodgy they were. Within an hour, I "got" three matches; one was an entire state away (I only found out when I swiped left and got the "missed potential match" message, and the other two never showed up when set for a reasonable distance. I suspect they were fake. Needless to say, I have no intention of meeting someone outside of a reasonable driving area. Hell, I never got the chance to see if the one match was a bot or a real person.
Thanks for sharing your warning, Dsouza