Hello all!
I try to pick up this common topic which i seen so many times to be discussed but never clarified at 360°.
I heard so many times about depression related to mones usage especially that ones with A1 inside.
Unfortunately i'm going over a difficult period and i'm dealing with depression again (don't worry please, it's something latent which comes out sometime. I think so many people knows what i mean) and i'm very thoughtful about mones usage and their interaction with this status.
I honestly never had the day after effects some people says with very strong mones, the only physical effect i noticed so many times, is the faster heartbeat using LIIK. But when it comes to identify "mental effects" or worst with depression, it's very difficult to understand the relationship between mones usage and your mental status.
So the question for the experts are (for now): which common mones or blends are usual to lead to depression? How many days after usage is it normal to be related to mones usage? Is it possible/common to be triggered to depression by mones but going into really severe and long lasting depression time even if stopping using it?
Only to know, i'm lately using Xist mainly when i see a girl i'm dealing with and which i talked about in other topics. Sometimes i used Evolve, NA and Casanova (tried only for curiosity a few times).
I hope this could be a discussion thread to help people which are dealing these bad things and try to do a collection of everyone advice and experiences to help people to avoid a wrong mones usage which can lead to very dangerous situations.
Thanks in advance! :)
Avoid the S1CK line, those mess you up good. I'd also avoid those products that are designed to imprint. Stick with masculine alpha status products and you'll be ok. Avoid A1 stuff
Thanks for the reply!
So Casanova is definitely not to be used... It's a little bit weird because i only tested it only a few times weeks ago, but probably it lasted on the clothes i use everyday like the jacket. I see Xist doesn't contain A1 but i guess there is something else "imprinting" into it and probably this is better not to be used. I don't find the Evolve formula but i guess it also has some A1 inside.
This is a problem because Evolve and Xist are my favorite products honestly and i feel they vibes well with me. Otherwise i'm not so much into alpha mones, even if i really like the fragrance on BW and it also gives me really good vibes, but honestly i think it is not consistent with my person, and in fact i never noticed visible effects on other people as the others do!
If you're low T, avoid A1. I can visually watch men subdue into a shell over a 3.5-5 minute period while riding on the train. I frankly only apply it now around women when we're about to hit the bedroom to see if she has a clingy, in need of protection vibe. It can be gold here, but kills the tension for more often than not. Use A1 with caution; it's gold with the odd woman, but gets in the way (imo) more often than not.
Flip side, it's a good test to see if a man's T levels are low. If they're high, no effect, however, if they're low, he'll either retreat into shell or turn pissy.
Other mones: TAA gives a crash if too high, high none leads to aggression in males, frustration/avoidance in females (plus physical arousal, but they can practically never put 2+2 together here) and ghosting if way too high (and headaches personally), rone shit tests, but this can be a good thing.
Do you think it can be related to Testosterone level? (i guess you mean that with T). Or worst, testosterone level can be modulated from mones usage? maybe it would be interesting to do a blood test and involve this exam to be certain about this. I guess it's not recommended at all to use mones if someone is facing hormonal problems.
I think this 3D should be expander and discussed well, not only related to depression but also about health and safety in general!
Work on yourself first brother. In a depression is more of getting yourself back. I was in a bad space last year and didn't use mones other than for interviews and did very few dates. An alpha mix will help you get productive a bit. This would be BW, Ascend, Alphab Treasure. Looking back, I would want to a light dose of bad wolf under the nose because the selfies alone want you to be a man that gets the job done. I am not saying a high dose, just enough to get you focused. I would also use Copulins as it will also have benefits.
For interviews, I would use aqua vitae if you have it.
My last year, I went through hell and deep depression, and I bounced back. Your main shouldn't be the money but focusing on your mindset. It is working out, applying to jobs that you might not be qualified for, interviewing for jobs you are not qualified, talking to people and try to be friendly. You are already feeling low, but you do need to go through things that make you uncomfortable to get out of it. Keep desensitizing yourself to these things and in no time the world is your oyster!
Thanks for your words, i really appreciate your help! :)
btw, before getting the flu this last week, i tried to go out with BW and i have to say i would use it only for the selfies... Honestly i didn't notice any effect on the others but i guess this is also because of the personal congruence with the product you are going to use. I think this is the only Alpha product i own at the moment, besides NA and SOB (i gifted it because i can't stand the smell). About NA instead, i think this is more congruent with me but i fear about the imprinting properties you guys suggested to avoid. Even if you can use it without A1, i think it could be dangerous anyway. Do you have an advice on what NOT TO USE absolutely? my stuff is listed below :)
Any support will be appreciated and i suggest again to improve this 3D and make maybe a list of product to use or to avoid absolutely to help people in case of need! I think this topic is often discussed but taken not too seriously and i think this is a big mistake!
Quote from: Max Grey on Feb 16, 2025, 08:57 AMThanks for your words, i really appreciate your help! :)
btw, before getting the flu this last week, i tried to go out with BW and i have to say i would use it only for the selfies... Honestly i didn't notice any effect on the others but i guess this is also because of the personal congruence with the product you are going to use. I think this is the only Alpha product i own at the moment, besides NA and SOB (i gifted it because i can't stand the smell). About NA instead, i think this is more congruent with me but i fear about the imprinting properties you guys suggested to avoid. Even if you can use it without A1, i think it could be dangerous anyway. Do you have an advice on what NOT TO USE absolutely? my stuff is listed below :)
Any support will be appreciated and i suggest again to improve this 3D and make maybe a list of product to use or to avoid absolutely to help people in case of need! I think this topic is often discussed but taken not too seriously and i think this is a big mistake!
Stop using any mones until you are where you need to be in life. That way you will know you have truly arrived where you want to he through your own efforts without reliance on crutches. I have no rational explanation for it, but wearing mones alters your perception of yourself, and this is not helpful when you are on a healing journey.
Throw away l2k and certo, Chris's A1 was brutal. I wouldn't use NA either.
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