Hello
In 2023 I ordered my first pheromone which was Aqua Vitae (how original) and then I got Grail of Affection and used them with moderate success but then life got in the way and I stopped using them for about a year.
After 1 year I had a date and I saw GOA to which I said, why not use it? I used it with my date and GOA did what it was supposed to do: It slowly tore her walls down and over the course of a few meetings this emotionally avoidant girl was making out with me. This made me go on a mone spree and I forgot about the details because to be honest I was feeling a bit invincible especially thanks to Aqua Vitae and life going generally well.
But then I used GOA for 3-4 days straight WITHOUT cleaning the application points. I would literally sleep with 1-2 drops of A1 on my neck and forearms. It finally started to hit me and I started feeling a bit mellow and nostalgic. Constantly smoking cigarettes, thinking about how life was meaningless etc. but then my girlfriend had to leave the town and we had to separate and that is when sht hit the fan.
I got into such a bad depression out of nowhere I can't even describe it. I wrote so much messed up stuff that night on my diary that if you knew me in real life you would think I am joking. But a hint is half a page is just filled with the word ''suicide'' over and over. I couldn't concentrate and acted like a zombie for 3-4 days before I remembered something about A1 causing depression. When I tried to search for it I saw that old forum was gone but its archives showed similar things happening to other men too.
So please take care and do not rush in without thinking about the details. I was remembering something about A1 depression but I thought it wouldn't be able to cause depression in me lmfao. I also remember using close to 5-6 drops NPA at the age of 24 and wondering IF I overdosed when the girl tried to keep her distance from me lol. These things matter and if you can take your time your results will skyrocket AND you will be able to protect yourself from harm (when I realised all I needed was a small dab of NPA instead of nearly 10 drops (laughing just writing this but it is true), I started seeing sexual IOI's everywhere)
Yes. The shit with the A1 is very real. Some people don't feel anything, but those who are affected, it hits them hard
Quote from: Lethal 2.0 on Aug 31, 2025, 02:21 AMHello
In 2023 I ordered my first pheromone which was Aqua Vitae (how original) and then I got Grail of Affection and used them with moderate success but then life got in the way and I stopped using them for about a year.
After 1 year I had a date and I saw GOA to which I said, why not use it? I used it with my date and GOA did what it was supposed to do: It slowly tore her walls down and over the course of a few meetings this emotionally avoidant girl was making out with me. This made me go on a mone spree and I forgot about the details because to be honest I was feeling a bit invincible especially thanks to Aqua Vitae and life going generally well.
But then I used GOA for 3-4 days straight WITHOUT cleaning the application points. I would literally sleep with 1-2 drops of A1 on my neck and forearms. It finally started to hit me and I started feeling a bit mellow and nostalgic. Constantly smoking cigarettes, thinking about how life was meaningless etc. but then my girlfriend had to leave the town and we had to separate and that is when sht hit the fan.
I got into such a bad depression out of nowhere I can't even describe it. I wrote so much messed up stuff that night on my diary that I can't even explain. But a hint is half a page is just filled with the word ''suicide'' over and over. I couldn't concentrate and acted like a zombie for 3-4 days before I remembered something about A1 causing depression. When I tried to search for it I saw that old forum was gone but its archives showed similar things happening to other men too.
So please take care and do not rush in without thinking about the details. I was remembering something about A1 depression but I thought it wouldn't be able to cause depression in me lmfao. I also remember using close to 5-6 drops NPA at the age of 24 and wondering IF I overdosed when the girl tried to keep her distance from me lol. These things matter and if you can take your time your results will skyrocket AND you will be able to protect yourself from harm (when I realised all I needed was a small dab of NPA instead of nearly 10 drops (laughing just writing this but it is true), I started seeing sexual IOI's everywhere)
I just got into pheromones. Thank you for making this post. I got a couple of questions for you.
1. Do you use any products right now that contains A1 or you completely avoid those?
2. What products do you currently use?
3. Do you use these Daily?
4. So the girl that ignored you was it the result of using too many pheromones?
Thanks! =)
Quote from: Lethal 2.0 on Aug 31, 2025, 02:21 AMHello
In 2023 I ordered my first pheromone which was Aqua Vitae (how original) and then I got Grail of Affection and used them with moderate success but then life got in the way and I stopped using them for about a year.
After 1 year I had a date and I saw GOA to which I said, why not use it? I used it with my date and GOA did what it was supposed to do: It slowly tore her walls down and over the course of a few meetings this emotionally avoidant girl was making out with me. This made me go on a mone spree and I forgot about the details because to be honest I was feeling a bit invincible especially thanks to Aqua Vitae and life going generally well.
But then I used GOA for 3-4 days straight WITHOUT cleaning the application points. I would literally sleep with 1-2 drops of A1 on my neck and forearms. It finally started to hit me and I started feeling a bit mellow and nostalgic. Constantly smoking cigarettes, thinking about how life was meaningless etc. but then my girlfriend had to leave the town and we had to separate and that is when sht hit the fan.
I got into such a bad depression out of nowhere I can't even describe it. I wrote so much messed up stuff that night on my diary that I can't even explain. But a hint is half a page is just filled with the word ''suicide'' over and over. I couldn't concentrate and acted like a zombie for 3-4 days before I remembered something about A1 causing depression. When I tried to search for it I saw that old forum was gone but its archives showed similar things happening to other men too.
So please take care and do not rush in without thinking about the details. I was remembering something about A1 depression but I thought it wouldn't be able to cause depression in me lmfao. I also remember using close to 5-6 drops NPA at the age of 24 and wondering IF I overdosed when the girl tried to keep her distance from me lol. These things matter and if you can take your time your results will skyrocket AND you will be able to protect yourself from harm (when I realised all I needed was a small dab of NPA instead of nearly 10 drops (laughing just writing this but it is true), I started seeing sexual IOI's everywhere)
I definitely understand what are you talking about! I opened a 3D about this topic a few months ago, if you want to take a look it's called "mones and depression". I understood i can't use mones which contains A1 at all, i can tollerate the other molecules whithout any problem, also imprinting blends like NA, but i have always to pay attention to the ones which has A1 inside. It's a pity because obviously the best blends are the ones which are A1 based, but they have to be used carefully and at least everything has to be cleaned well before going to sleep every time!
I'm interested on this topic and i'll follow this discussion! I'd like to see many contribution by the other users, in my opinion this topic should be discussed well and always as a first warning on mones usage!
@Max Grey Are you still using Xist and Casanova? I actually read your thread that you made. What mones do you use now?
Quote from: OneOne on Aug 31, 2025, 05:42 PM@Max Grey Are you still using Xist and Casanova? I actually read your thread that you made. What mones do you use now?
Lately i'm trying to use mones less as possible because of this reason and because i'm dealing with depression issues in general. I switched between NA, Evolve, Xist and BW sometimes. I don't use Casanova anymore mainly because it seems to me to be not consistent. Since my actual target is always a friendzone target, i'm using Xist which seems to be safe because it doesn't contain A1 and it vibes really well with me. I'm always tempted to use Evolve which is the best one nowadays, in my opinion, but it hits too hard on me and always leads me to blues! I'll try sometimes to use it again as a test, or other new more balanced products i still want to try, but at the moment Xist is the way! :)
Oh I see.. So you been feeling ok with xist? No depression or mood swings with it?
Over the years i discovered that if i get 2-3gr of taurine, all symptoms of A1 use, are gone. It's almost like a complete cure. Sometimes if the symptoms persist i repeat it and get 2-3gr more taurine a few hours later. Now i can use A1 without thinking the next day
This is the one that i use :
https://www.body-attack.com/body-attack-taurine-3000 (https://www.body-attack.com/body-attack-taurine-3000)
Quote from: OneOne on Aug 31, 2025, 02:58 PMQuote from: Lethal 2.0 on Aug 31, 2025, 02:21 AMHello
In 2023 I ordered my first pheromone which was Aqua Vitae (how original) and then I got Grail of Affection and used them with moderate success but then life got in the way and I stopped using them for about a year.
After 1 year I had a date and I saw GOA to which I said, why not use it? I used it with my date and GOA did what it was supposed to do: It slowly tore her walls down and over the course of a few meetings this emotionally avoidant girl was making out with me. This made me go on a mone spree and I forgot about the details because to be honest I was feeling a bit invincible especially thanks to Aqua Vitae and life going generally well.
But then I used GOA for 3-4 days straight WITHOUT cleaning the application points. I would literally sleep with 1-2 drops of A1 on my neck and forearms. It finally started to hit me and I started feeling a bit mellow and nostalgic. Constantly smoking cigarettes, thinking about how life was meaningless etc. but then my girlfriend had to leave the town and we had to separate and that is when sht hit the fan.
I got into such a bad depression out of nowhere I can't even describe it. I wrote so much messed up stuff that night on my diary that I can't even explain. But a hint is half a page is just filled with the word ''suicide'' over and over. I couldn't concentrate and acted like a zombie for 3-4 days before I remembered something about A1 causing depression. When I tried to search for it I saw that old forum was gone but its archives showed similar things happening to other men too.
So please take care and do not rush in without thinking about the details. I was remembering something about A1 depression but I thought it wouldn't be able to cause depression in me lmfao. I also remember using close to 5-6 drops NPA at the age of 24 and wondering IF I overdosed when the girl tried to keep her distance from me lol. These things matter and if you can take your time your results will skyrocket AND you will be able to protect yourself from harm (when I realised all I needed was a small dab of NPA instead of nearly 10 drops (laughing just writing this but it is true), I started seeing sexual IOI's everywhere)
I just got into pheromones. Thank you for making this post. I got a couple of questions for you.
1. Do you use any products right now that contains A1 or you completely avoid those?
2. What products do you currently use?
3. Do you use these Daily?
4. So the girl that ignored you was it the result of using too many pheromones?
Thanks! =)
1- I use A1 products but I am always very careful about cleaning the application points very thoroughly and I try to use them for short amount of times (2-3 hours at most and then I try not to use them for some days)
2- Nowadays I keep using NA, Voodoo, NPA, Aqua Vitae, GOA, THU with no problems about my mental health whatsoever.
3- I use NA daily and I use others depending on my target's personality and environment etc. Every mone has a place in which it shines.
4- Yes there is a thing called ''ghosting'' that basically means if you use too much mones on you, your own signature can't be detected by people and it leads to this weird effect where they ignore or avoid you. Think of it like a dog seeing but not recognizing you but as soon as it smells you, it remembers you. That is why you need to find your ''sweet spot''. I might get hits with Bad Wolf with just 1 or 2 drops while you might need up to 5. It is all trial and error and even where you apply the mone may give it a different effect.
I also read on the old forum that if you work out and raise your testosterone levels, it might lower the chance of you getting A1 depression but haven't researched it yet.
Quote from: Lethal 2.0 on Aug 31, 2025, 10:39 PMQuote from: OneOne on Aug 31, 2025, 02:58 PMQuote from: Lethal 2.0 on Aug 31, 2025, 02:21 AMHello
In 2023 I ordered my first pheromone which was Aqua Vitae (how original) and then I got Grail of Affection and used them with moderate success but then life got in the way and I stopped using them for about a year.
After 1 year I had a date and I saw GOA to which I said, why not use it? I used it with my date and GOA did what it was supposed to do: It slowly tore her walls down and over the course of a few meetings this emotionally avoidant girl was making out with me. This made me go on a mone spree and I forgot about the details because to be honest I was feeling a bit invincible especially thanks to Aqua Vitae and life going generally well.
But then I used GOA for 3-4 days straight WITHOUT cleaning the application points. I would literally sleep with 1-2 drops of A1 on my neck and forearms. It finally started to hit me and I started feeling a bit mellow and nostalgic. Constantly smoking cigarettes, thinking about how life was meaningless etc. but then my girlfriend had to leave the town and we had to separate and that is when sht hit the fan.
I got into such a bad depression out of nowhere I can't even describe it. I wrote so much messed up stuff that night on my diary that I can't even explain. But a hint is half a page is just filled with the word ''suicide'' over and over. I couldn't concentrate and acted like a zombie for 3-4 days before I remembered something about A1 causing depression. When I tried to search for it I saw that old forum was gone but its archives showed similar things happening to other men too.
So please take care and do not rush in without thinking about the details. I was remembering something about A1 depression but I thought it wouldn't be able to cause depression in me lmfao. I also remember using close to 5-6 drops NPA at the age of 24 and wondering IF I overdosed when the girl tried to keep her distance from me lol. These things matter and if you can take your time your results will skyrocket AND you will be able to protect yourself from harm (when I realised all I needed was a small dab of NPA instead of nearly 10 drops (laughing just writing this but it is true), I started seeing sexual IOI's everywhere)
I just got into pheromones. Thank you for making this post. I got a couple of questions for you.
1. Do you use any products right now that contains A1 or you completely avoid those?
2. What products do you currently use?
3. Do you use these Daily?
4. So the girl that ignored you was it the result of using too many pheromones?
Thanks! =)
1- I use A1 products but I am always very careful about cleaning the application points very thoroughly and I try to use them for short amount of times (2-3 hours at most and then I try not to use them for some days)
2- Nowadays I keep using NA, Voodoo, NPA, Aqua Vitae, GOA, THU with no problems about my mental health whatsoever.
3- I use NA daily and I use others depending on my target's personality and environment etc. Every mone has a place in which it shines.
4- Yes there is a thing called ''ghosting'' that basically means if you use too much mones on you, your own signature can't be detected by people and it leads to this weird effect where they ignore or avoid you. Think of it like a dog seeing but not recognizing you but as soon as it smells you, it remembers you. That is why you need to find your ''sweet spot''. I might get hits with Bad Wolf with just 1 or 2 drops while you might need up to 5. It is all trial and error and even where you apply the mone may give it a different effect.
I also read on the old forum that if you work out and raise your testosterone levels, it might lower the chance of you getting A1 depression but haven't researched it yet.
Hey bro thanks for replying to me. Im very new to pheromones. I just got into them a few months ago and i been wearing different products like crazy every day mostly with hardly no days off lol. I think number 4 already happened to me. I used to see my target daily, but ever since i started using pheromones i dont see her where i normally see her. Its like she totally vanished. My plan is to take at least a month off to reset myself. What do you think bro?
Hey bro thanks for replying to me. Im very new to pheromones. I just got into them a few months ago and i been wearing different products like crazy every day mostly with hardly no days off lol. I think number 4 already happened to me. I used to see my target daily, but ever since i started using pheromones i dont see her where i normally see her. Its like she totally vanished. My plan is to take at least a month off to reset myself. What do you think bro?
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No no ghosting is when you wear too much pheromones at a time. Meaning if you wear too much of a mone and meet her, then she might ghost you but that effect is not permanent. However if you wear the wrong mone with the wrong person that might repel her.
For example an aggressive mone like DP or SOB might repel a girl who is looking for a romantic relationship. Or a girl who is into dominant men might not like too romantic blends like TL or GOA. That is why observations are crucial.
Finally, switching too fast might not be a good thing either since they can't pinpoint your vibe and you are always a different person each time they see you.
Quote from: Lethal 2.0 on Sep 01, 2025, 12:19 AMHey bro thanks for replying to me. Im very new to pheromones. I just got into them a few months ago and i been wearing different products like crazy every day mostly with hardly no days off lol. I think number 4 already happened to me. I used to see my target daily, but ever since i started using pheromones i dont see her where i normally see her. Its like she totally vanished. My plan is to take at least a month off to reset myself. What do you think bro?
No no ghosting is when you wear too much pheromones at a time. Meaning if you wear too much of a mone and meet her, then she might ghost you but that effect is not permanent. However if you wear the wrong mone with the wrong person that might repel her.
For example an aggressive mone like DP or SOB might repel a girl who is looking for a romantic relationship. Or a girl who is into dominant men might not like too romantic blends like TL or GOA. That is why observations are crucial.
Finally, switching too fast might not be a good thing either since they can't pinpoint your vibe and you are always a different person each time they see you.
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In your opinion whats a good beginner pheromone? Any suggestions? Just curious on what you think.
Quote from: OneOne on Sep 01, 2025, 12:24 AMQuote from: Lethal 2.0 on Sep 01, 2025, 12:19 AMHey bro thanks for replying to me. Im very new to pheromones. I just got into them a few months ago and i been wearing different products like crazy every day mostly with hardly no days off lol. I think number 4 already happened to me. I used to see my target daily, but ever since i started using pheromones i dont see her where i normally see her. Its like she totally vanished. My plan is to take at least a month off to reset myself. What do you think bro?
No no ghosting is when you wear too much pheromones at a time. Meaning if you wear too much of a mone and meet her, then she might ghost you but that effect is not permanent. However if you wear the wrong mone with the wrong person that might repel her.
For example an aggressive mone like DP or SOB might repel a girl who is looking for a romantic relationship. Or a girl who is into dominant men might not like too romantic blends like TL or GOA. That is why observations are crucial.
Finally, switching too fast might not be a good thing either since they can't pinpoint your vibe and you are always a different person each time they see you.
In your opinion whats a good beginner pheromone? Any suggestions? Just curious on what you think.
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I would go with something straightforward like Aqua Vitae or Wolf. Some mones are very complex like Xist or Voodoo and changes may be too subtle to see.
Yes this was the case with AD instant female magic, I got major depression from it, but in large doses above 40mcg.
However I used to get a body wash that had dienone and I loved that one so it must have been a very low dose.
Quote from: OneOne on Aug 31, 2025, 05:56 PMOh I see.. So you been feeling ok with xist? No depression or mood swings with it?
With Xist i'm safe almost every time, but i'm not a good example about this topic because i'm still dealing with depression besides mones usage. So you should listen to other users suggestions! I can say Xist should be really safe also because it doesn't contain A1, if i'm not wrong! Be careful with mones like Evolve which is a really powerful product but it can be very dangerous for yourself at the same time ;)
A1 can do magic but in some mixes it turns out to be more comfort than sexual. It does have a way of causing longing, and imprinting.