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Poll
Question: Which is the best S1Ck product to fclose with?
Option 1: Casanova votes: 2
Option 2: AlphaQ votes: 3
Option 3: True Love votes: 0
Option 4: Avant Garde votes: 0
Title: Which is the best S1Ck pheromone to fclose with?
Post by: Dsouza on Oct 07, 2025, 07:29 AM
Make sure you only choose products you made it to kissing, oral sex, or sex with NEW partners.
Title: Re: Which is the best S1Ck pheromone to fclose with?
Post by: Dsouza on Oct 07, 2025, 06:43 PM
Wait whomever chose AQ did you have to use a lot of spending money to be congruent with it? 

I've kissed and felt up a hottie on a date with AQ .  I've never tried CAS on a date but in bars tons of models would give me their phone number.  But I felt they saw me as more of a friend with CAS compared to AQ.


I have not tested AG nor TL on dates at all.  With AG I got a bartenders number and a yes to a date, with TL I got nothing more than chit chat and in some cases disrespect from women and men.

I have yet to post my vote but right now it goes to both AQ and CAS with the edge to AQ.
Title: Re: Which is the best S1Ck pheromone to fclose with?
Post by: TracerX on Oct 08, 2025, 03:22 PM
TL is trash in my experience, AG felt like a hype attempt to me I wouldn't trust it. CAS and AQ are good, there's a reason why Garry only has AQ on his website and it's not because the website is old.
Title: Re: Which is the best S1Ck pheromone to fclose with?
Post by: Dsouza on Oct 10, 2025, 03:37 AM
Quote from: TracerX on Oct 08, 2025, 03:22 PMTL is trash in my experience, AG felt like a hype attempt to me I wouldn't trust it. CAS and AQ are good, there's a reason why Garry only has AQ on his website and it's not because the website is old.

I wouldn't be so hard on AG if you haven't tested it.   I still haven't concluded if it's primarily social based or has sexual properties.   It works both in spray and drops.  I haven't concluded if drops is better than spray.  In this colder weather it doesn't seem that drops will disperse regardless.

CAS and AQ are more powerful and IYF and sexual to start, AG comes across as very subtle as if it's working in the background and has more social magnetism.

AG is volatile.  If you don't get the dose right you're in for a boring night.  Reminds me of AV that way.  Sometimes it hits, sometimes nothing, nada, zilch.

Title: Re: Which is the best S1Ck pheromone to fclose with?
Post by: TracerX on Oct 10, 2025, 04:49 PM
Quote from: Dsouza on Oct 10, 2025, 03:37 AM
Quote from: TracerX on Oct 08, 2025, 03:22 PMTL is trash in my experience, AG felt like a hype attempt to me I wouldn't trust it. CAS and AQ are good, there's a reason why Garry only has AQ on his website and it's not because the website is old.

I wouldn't be so hard on AG if you haven't tested it.   I still haven't concluded if it's primarily social based or has sexual properties.   It works both in spray and drops.  I haven't concluded if drops is better than spray.  In this colder weather it doesn't seem that drops will disperse regardless.

CAS and AQ are more powerful and IYF and sexual to start, AG comes across as very subtle as if it's working in the background and has more social magnetism.

AG is volatile.  If you don't get the dose right you're in for a boring night.  Reminds me of AV that way.  Sometimes it hits, sometimes nothing, nada, zilch.



I haven't seen anyone close anything with it
Title: Re: Which is the best S1Ck pheromone to fclose with?
Post by: Dsouza on Oct 11, 2025, 12:14 AM
Quote from: TracerX on Oct 10, 2025, 04:49 PM
Quote from: Dsouza on Oct 10, 2025, 03:37 AM
Quote from: TracerX on Oct 08, 2025, 03:22 PMTL is trash in my experience, AG felt like a hype attempt to me I wouldn't trust it. CAS and AQ are good, there's a reason why Garry only has AQ on his website and it's not because the website is old.

I wouldn't be so hard on AG if you haven't tested it.   I still haven't concluded if it's primarily social based or has sexual properties.   It works both in spray and drops.  I haven't concluded if drops is better than spray.  In this colder weather it doesn't seem that drops will disperse regardless.

CAS and AQ are more powerful and IYF and sexual to start, AG comes across as very subtle as if it's working in the background and has more social magnetism.

AG is volatile.  If you don't get the dose right you're in for a boring night.  Reminds me of AV that way.  Sometimes it hits, sometimes nothing, nada, zilch.



I haven't seen anyone close anything with it

An hb9 bartender said yes to a date and handed me her contact within minutes.

My game screwed up when I showed too much interest but I wouldn't blame the mones.
Title: Re: Which is the best S1Ck pheromone to fclose with?
Post by: Mr Highvalue on Oct 11, 2025, 02:03 AM
Can't say I've full closed with any of those.

Mind you, I've only tried Cas and AG.

Attraction: yes with both

Shows interest in talking to me: yes with both

Looks my way with smiles and DIHL eyes: yes with both

Opens conversation with me, instead of me opening with them: yes with both

Icebreakers and chat: Yes with both

Fcloses: No

So I couldn't vote because none of those.
Title: Re: Which is the best S1Ck pheromone to fclose with?
Post by: Dsouza on Oct 11, 2025, 09:32 AM
You say AQ is the only S1CK product on Garry's website.

Does it work like the original frost bottle from 3-4 years ago?

I have the original bottle and it works well.

I have also made out and felt up a date with it.  An HB9.

I would of landed sex with her but I had a fight with her and tossed her out of my dating pool.

The problem with AQ V1 is I can lose my cool the next day.  It can make me feel very cold towards people in general.

The day I wear it I'm cool as a cucumber.

It tells me it's an SNL / ONS product designed for sex on the first date and then goodbyes.

So with AQ V1 close, and close quickly.  Go home big, or don't go home at all.
Title: Re: Which is the best S1Ck pheromone to fclose with?
Post by: ck on Oct 11, 2025, 12:08 PM
Have you read the write up of avant garde on house of pheromone website, he describes it like L2k, i think you said it performed like it once, i have a bottle might start testing again
https://houseofpheromones.com/avant-garde-s1ck-social-pheromone-review/
Title: Re: Which is the best S1Ck pheromone to fclose with?
Post by: Dsouza on Oct 18, 2025, 01:46 AM
Upon reflection I now feel CAS V1 orig is the best of the S1Ck line because it gets you out of your shell and makes you feel like talking...... even if you're having a bad day spray some CAS on and your mood will change for the positive.  It also makes you completely relaxed attracts tall, young hb9's and builds social proof very easily.  It can be worn in bars and everyday venues.

AG makes me short tempered and like the blondes it attracts a bit full of myself, introverted, and in my head a lot.  AG is a product that was hyped by HOP to be the next L2K Corpo.  The truth is after 6 weeks of using it, I found it to fall short in terms of delivering value.

Liquid silver Holy Grail I feel the creed aventus working but little in the way of AG even at high doses.
Title: Re: Which is the best S1Ck pheromone to fclose with?
Post by: @Wildsau on Oct 18, 2025, 03:45 PM
I also voted for Cas. It's magic in a bottle and one of the best all-rounders available. I also like the beautification effect it has. There must be a good dose of Androstenetrione included. But I should be fair... Never scored a Ons with one product from the Sick Line. But for this purpose, I have developed a combo that works well for me.
Title: Re: Which is the best S1Ck pheromone to fclose with?
Post by: TracerX on Oct 19, 2025, 01:01 PM
Quote from: HowCool on Oct 18, 2025, 06:13 PMWhats the whole purpose of true love?

Creating a strong imprinting effects, "exploiting" female ovulation state to steer a female's emotion.
Title: Re: Which is the best S1Ck pheromone to fclose with?
Post by: Dsouza on Oct 21, 2025, 05:42 PM
Has anyone tried Avant Garde specifically in VIP bars and nightclubs before forming a final conclusion?  If so what happened?
Title: Re: Which is the best S1Ck pheromone to fclose with?
Post by: Dsouza on Oct 21, 2025, 08:09 PM
Quote from: TracerX on Oct 19, 2025, 01:01 PM
Quote from: HowCool on Oct 18, 2025, 06:13 PMWhats the whole purpose of true love?

Creating a strong imprinting effects, "exploiting" female ovulation state to steer a female's emotion.

Does it actually work for sexual purposes though?  If you can exploit a woman's ovulating state why can't you fuck her?
Title: Re: Which is the best S1Ck pheromone to fclose with?
Post by: Dsouza on Oct 21, 2025, 08:16 PM
I tried CAS orig v1 at 4 sprays like I usually do a few days ago.

I don't think I can wear it anymore.  I get crazy dizzy now from wearing it.

Almost off balance when walking sometimes.

Title: Re: Which is the best S1Ck pheromone to fclose with?
Post by: Lethal 2.0 on Oct 21, 2025, 11:51 PM
Quote from: Dsouza on Oct 21, 2025, 09:06 PMWhat I LOVE about TL is how you feel like you're in a fucken MOVIE when you're talking to a girl. As if you're both reciting script.  I think she feels this just as much as you and is probably wondering wtf why?  She must be losing her marbles guessing as to why she feels like she's in a movie playing a character alongside you.  Do you really think this is believable attraction or women sense it's not believable which is why you can't fclose with TL?

TL seems to work for me best at 1 drop.

I tend to get severe disrespect when I spray it and use multiple sprays.

I never tried it before but I assume it is basically a nuclear a1 drop on women which makes them comfortable with you but not necessarily sexually aroused. Instead of sex, they may think about having a future with you in a relationship. If I want to spray and go for an ons I would pass on True Love. It literally has love in its name lol. I do not think its purpose is to use it in a club and have sex in the toilet.
Title: Re: Which is the best S1Ck pheromone to fclose with?
Post by: Lethal 2.0 on Oct 21, 2025, 11:55 PM
But I do think it is possible to fclose with tl. It will come with her becoming very possessive and jealous of you though and will take time since it is mainly an emotional attachment mone.
Title: Re: Which is the best S1Ck pheromone to fclose with?
Post by: Dsouza on Oct 22, 2025, 06:24 PM
Is the current AQ from S1Ck the working product that got people laid?  AF is out of stock of all versions. 

What version is on sick site and has anyone purchased in last 30 days?
Title: Re: Which is the best S1Ck pheromone to fclose with?
Post by: Highlander on Oct 22, 2025, 06:53 PM
I do own a full 60ml AQ Spray '25 edition. It took ages and many e-mails on my part to get it delivered from S1ck Shop to Italy. I tried two times to use it till now.

First time I ended up severely overdosing with 6-7 sprays. What happened is I went to a festival and I got one friend of mine slightly but surely fidgeting for 5 minutes. Then I went completely unnoticed by any other women, which is unusual since I am fairly attractive or at least noticeable even without pheromones. All night women seemed to ignore me.

Second time
I wore two sprays and hung out with another female friend of mine solo. She was smilish and immediately picked up on the scent claiming it felt nice. She was very concentrated on my words and listened attentively, more than usual I would say but nothing remarkable happened.

I need to learn the proper usage, dosage and context to gain advantage of this product. Hope this helps you all.
Title: Re: Which is the best S1Ck pheromone to fclose with?
Post by: Dsouza on Oct 22, 2025, 07:15 PM
Quote from: Highlander on Oct 22, 2025, 06:53 PMI do own a full 60ml AQ Spray '25 edition. It took ages and many e-mails on my part to get it delivered from S1ck Shop to Italy. I tried two times to use it till now.

First time I ended up severely overdosing with 6-7 sprays. What happened is I went to a festival and I got one friend of mine slightly but surely fidgeting for 5 minutes. Then I went completely unnoticed by any other women, which is unusual since I am fairly attractive or at least noticeable even without pheromones. All night women seemed to ignore me.

Second time
I wore two sprays and hung out with another female friend of mine solo. She was smilish and immediately picked up on the scent claiming it felt nice. She was very concentrated on my words and listened attentively, more than usual I would say but nothing remarkable happened.

I need to learn the proper usage, dosage and context to gain advantage of this product. Hope this helps you all.


Try 1 spray next.
Title: Re: Which is the best S1Ck pheromone to fclose with?
Post by: Dsouza on Oct 23, 2025, 04:00 AM
Forget TL I tried it out at 4 sprays last night.  The a1 was crippling.

I never got such bad lethargy and depression from a1 from any other S1Ck product.

AQ I like -- the original V1 frost bottle -- the current day AQ may or may not even work.  I'm waiting for feedback on whether the version on S1Ck website is any good.  Aroma Fero is out of stock of all versions.  I think AQ is more business now -- not designed for seduction.  Correct me if I'm wrong.

Title: Re: Which is the best S1Ck pheromone to fclose with?
Post by: Dsouza on Nov 17, 2025, 04:15 PM
I want to write this while my mind is still fresh.

I was killing it in 2017 with l2k and m3x but I also was a 9 in looks back then.  If people saw my YT videos recording back then on my channel you'll see I was muscular and ripped to striations.

It might not of only been the l2k 2014 and m3x 2017 but my looks at the time.

I highly suggest people don't write of Avant Garde.   I had no success with AQ V1 and it makes me RAGE internally at any dose.

CAS just nukes me.

Avant Garde seems to be the best but it is said to pull models like L2k.  That won't happen more than a glance unless one looks like how I did back in 2017.   

So I am NOT going to write off AG for that matter.  All it take is to approach beautiful 20 somethings and chat them up and lead to a number.  From there text game or dating works.  A ONS doesn't have to happen as a SNL.  It could as it usually does for me by date 2 or 3.

So it's time for me to get into looksmaxing.  I made a mistake returning to free weights in recent weeks and wonder why my results with mones is so dismal.

I feel my body tight, my injuries from MMA made worse, and a loss of height by as much as 1 inch from the damage to the discs in the spine.

Starting tommorrow I will give up free weights and return to the gym using only machines.  These help target all muscles with heavy weights without vertical lifting or any damage to the spinal discs.

I am also seeing a massage therapist (not chiro) this friday and every 2-4 weeks for routine back massages.  It seems in 2017 I was doing that as well.

Just these slight changes can add another 1.5 -2 inches to my height BEFORE the elevators that add another 3 inches.

All while being in kick ass shape.  Dress the body up in nice stylish (not necessarily expensive) clothes and jewlery and THEN you are ready for Avant Garde and other mones and only THEN able to make a fair judgement.

Kudos,
Dsouza
Title: Re: Which is the best S1Ck pheromone to fclose with?
Post by: Dsouza on Nov 18, 2025, 05:40 PM
Has anyone tried comparing Avant Garde to liquid silver holy grail ? 

Did one work better than the other for you and why?

I have tried both and can't figure out which is better...