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Just because it worked for me doesn't mean it will work for others. The best tip I can give people here is to find people in the community that products that worked for those people also works them.

For example, if BW and IMPI RED work well for me and for you, it might be that similar mones would work for us. I wouldn't be surprised Dsouza if ETFZ won't work for you, from what I recall many of the products I used don't work well for you, e.g: you mentioned BW doesn't work for you.

Happy testing.

How did you use it tracer? And what did it do for you? There's not much info on the thread

What did you get from etfz , your last comment on the thread was negative? I'm not sure how to search your journal can you share it here or on the etfz thread

ETFZ works with little effort but it takes considerable time to bake on my skin before I see it doing anything and punks tend to pickup the girls who talk to me right in front of me even in a foodcourt.

It also makes me and women more emotional.  I find it can be beta in some ways.

You may want to test for yourself.  PT blends are pretty solid.

My journal:

https://pherotruth.net/community/index.php?topic=32.0

How was it good though???what did it do???

Dp, pse, bad wolf, api

I used it to take
Virtual interview along with av under my nose. It makes me more social and calms me down. I used it a few times in public but nothing external to report. It's sad alpha dream died . I liked their products a lot

What did you get from etfz , your last comment on the thread was negative? I'm not sure how to search your journal can you share it here or on the etfz thread

The last part was for
You... it could be youre seeking some kind of validation, or maybe you just have a high sex drive...in that case connection wouldnt really matter

telling him to stop comparing yourself to other men is obv good advice period. i just dont think it applies here though. i think hes looking for ways to get the most sex the easiest way possible without paying(which guy at some point in their life wasnt). it could be youre seeking some kind of validation, or maybe you just have a high sex drive...in that case connection wouldnt really matter

percentages and probabilities change when you start going after women that are into you. learning and using choosing signals help with this instead of just bullrushing and going after everything moving. choose those that choose you.

Be careful what you wish for.

Most partners come with a sexual past. You too.

It would be weird when you get older and still look for virgins that match your age. What's in the future? 30 year old virgin? 40 year old virgin? 74 year old virgin?

Just think why somebody is still a virgin. Maybe that's more worrying then someone with some experience.

Saved virginity for 'the one'? That's a lot of pressure. She expects you to stay with her the rest of your lives. If you promise to stay with her a lifetime for the sex, but you don't and dump her before you're dead, you stole her virginity and leave her feeling like damaged good.

If the virginity wasn't saved for 'the one', then it's a woman that somehow didn't come to have sex with someone before. Why? Couldn't she find someone? Or was she too picky? Why would she have sex with you now? Are you a random dick? Did she think it was time to finally pop the cherry? Or are you the first person she ever meets in her life that's worthy to have sex with? How believable is that?

The older the virgin, I think the more clear it gets that it's a person that doesn't need/like/wants sex very much. For some reason (not interested in physical contact, not interested in sexual acts, trauma from something that happened, very religious etc) she didn't have sex before.

Is it really a fair assumption that this virgin woman will suddenly like sex with you? That she turns into this sexual creature? I think it's more likely that you have have a dead bedroom within one or two years.

I say it again:

Be careful what you wish for!

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On polyamory:

I believe there are partners that come and stay and partners that come and go. Some stay my whole lifetime. Some for a night. The longterm partners aren't 'the one', though my nesting partner comes close.

Once everyone gets past the 'these genitals can only be touched by one person' (and yourself of course, so technically two persons) you can grant your partners to enjoy sex with others. You are allowed too of course. And (after everyone did wash their genitals) tomorrow you can chose again who you want to be with for the next sex session.

The poly lifestyle has to suit you, but when it does, it's nice that it's more and more accepted that people are not limited to one bed partner for the rest of their lives.

as far as polyamory id need to be the womens first polyamorous relationship or something like that. if theyre experienced in polyamory im sure this issue will arise because it seems to stem from some insecurity within me about me that im now really experiencing(came out of a 10+ yr relationship with someone that had only been with 1 person, no oral or anal etc, she was 19 when we met) and trying to learn and change. so now experiencing the real world and caring for someone with a past is something i need to learn how to do or be haunted forevermore <insertGhostEmoji>

Most of the time women brush their teeth before they take the next dick in their mouth...

But to be serious: when a woman is clean and willing, why care? You can't fuck anyone yesterday or tomorrow. You live today.

It's my observation that sexual experienced people don't do exactly the same in bed all the time. (Unless you maybe have a very experienced star fish.)

Besides that, there is not a planet full of virgins somewhere, all waiting for you to deflower them. (Would be very boring after some time, because non of them is experienced.)

So you might find a way to deal with your aversion of the fact that a woman that you have sex with had a life before she met you. (Or still has, when you're not exclusive.)

Or you stop fucking women at all.

It isn't really about the sex or quality of sex its about feeling like youre getting less than you deserve or that your partner wronged you by being with other people before you.i dont even really fully understand it to be honest and  i know it sounds stupid and illogical i can see that but it doesnt change what occurs. i appreciate you taking the time to try to help but i guess most guys dont go through this or dont even think about these things in this way so you wont really understand it...seems like unless this mentality changes I just wont be able to commit to one person.
lol no sex is pretty funny

You need to fuck around more.

i probably do. I've fucked around a bunch though but the issue happens once i commit and the person isnt a virgin. i noticed once they have more than 2 partners before me it just nags at me until i break up. I don't get how a man can commit to woman fully knowing that she had another mans cum in her mouth. but it's  like something in my mind just keeps brining up that this chick was with other men and doing the exact same things to them as shes doing to me. it only happens when I settle with one or commit to one. when it's just sex or there are multiple the thought never crosses my mind.  do other guys not think about stuff like this or if i fuck around more that thought will go away?

Younger isn't better, I think. The younger body might be a bit tighter, but the older person is often more experienced.

Experienced means:

• better understanding of what arouses a bed partner
• better understanding of what arouses herself
• better blow jobs
• better hand jobs
• bigger chance to do some unusual things in bed (think: bdsm, anal, public sex, fetish things, tantra)
• better instructions for what she likes
• easier talking about sex and sexual things

I understand the appeal of a younger partner, but I also know it's not the best sex. I consider some miles a big plus normally. It's not damaged. It's broken in, experienced, fine tuned.

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Yes, I am poly. It's not for everyone, but I like it. I needed it. I have often romantic feelings for different people, which are hard to keep for myself.

It was not something which changed overnight. It was a process that lasted about half a year. And I am still looking for the best way to fill in my romantic life. (Maybe that's a quest which never ends.)

I agree more experience is def a good thing when just having sex but once i commit to the woman it changes that in my mind, shes not just sex to me and i start caring about her past etc. i think poly is worth exploring for me. i dont think im able to commit to one person(maybe i havent found the "one") as im always looking

the thing is everything ive read usually says leave the past in the past and im lucky to have what i have in the present and shes choosing me now etc but
I find myself feeling like people got what im getting for less, plus they got a younger version so im always asking what more do i get now that i deserve? how am i special? which is a tough way to be approaching it. interestingly i find myself thinking that i do need to be with multiple people to feel like im getting what i deserve. ive never been polyamorous(i did cheat alot when i was in monogamous relationships when im younger but i dont really see cheating as an option now i dont like the lying) and i wouldnt know where to start but recently ive been thinking about it alot. are you polyamorous?

Sometimes age is discussed, especially when it feels like the proverbial elephant in the room. I usually laugh it away, which works well. Or I say something like 'age is just a number'.

I hardly ever had the problem that I was too old for a young woman to be with me.

Maybe good to know: I dress casual, I am not condescending to younger people, I have an open mind for any changes in the world etc. Maybe this wouldn't work as well, when I was wearing a suit and told young people how the world works in a patronizing way.

so there no real difference in approach and convo with younger women, lets say 18 and up and older women? thanks for the advice. i know im asking a bunch of questions, do you have a specific approach and pick up story with whatever dialogue you can remember that stands out?

Has anyone dealt with this. Seems like the more serious I get with a woman the more her sexual past bothers me. Eventually becoming obsessive and judgemental then leads to resentment then breakup because it just becomes too much. I'm sure it has to do with internal insecurities. How do you guys deal with knowing your significant other was getting fucked and sucking other guys dicks etc. swallowing and doing all that graphic stuff in their past? Does it not bug people or is everyone just way more emotionally mature than myself