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I think diluting it by 1/4 will still be very, very strong for pheromonial use. It's 250 mcg a drop. That is really, really a lot of Androsterone, used as pheromone.

As I said: it's used in products in amounts like 5-10 mcg a drop or spray. Most people don't get any consistent results by using 25-50 drops or sprays. Probably you get ghosted, as in: your pheromone signature/cloud isn't believable, so the mind of people will filter you out.

Interesting, I'm new to all of this so I'll admit I have really no idea what I'm doing lol. I've seen people mention concepts like "ghosting," "overdose," "burnout" etc but I have no idea what they're talking about. What do you think about a 1/16th dilution? Also, what do you think about adding androstadienone to the mixture? Do you yourself have any personal experiences with androsterone?

It's the one from Idealabs. The vendor markets his products for a more nootropic/nutraceutical crowd, which is why it's probably not the same strength as scent companies. Andro is a weak androgen that has effects similar to DHT, only not quite as powerful. In dosages around 10 milligrams or higher it starts increasing heat production though. At least with me, and for some people that may be uncomfortable. Bodybuilders have used products like androsterone and epiandrosterone for the "drying" effects. Meaning it leans them out and lowers estrogen.

Thanks for sharing your source. I guess for a person that makes it's own pheromone mixes it would be a good purchase to get 240 drops of 1 mg Androsterone for 30 dollar (and 20 for shipping).

Did you already try it as a pheromone? I mean: dilute it until you have a dropper or sprayer that gives 5 or 10 mcg a drop or spray?

I haven't diluted it to the degree you speak of yet. I've had only one observable experience thus far. I've wore it in the past in public areas but I wasn't really paying attention to the people around me so much. I am thinking about reducing it to a quarter of it's original strength and adding  some small amounts of androstadienone to it.

So after doing some limited research the past couple days, mostly off the brief descriptions provided by "love-scent" company, it appears androsterone itself isn't as foul or offputting in smell on it's own, which may explain why I didn't need a cover scent when using it. Still though, I'm thinking when I try this experiment again I'm going to dial the dosage back. The product I used delivered 1mg of androsterone per drop. I'm thinking I'll quarter that to 0.25 milligrams per drop (in ethanol base) and I'll add some "Androstadienone" to the mixture as well. Based off the reading from Love-Scent, assuming their information is good, it's another not so intense smelling mone that is offering some of the stuff I'm looking for, and I'm curious how it will mix with androsterone. But I enjoy the alpha qualities to androsterone, so it will certainly predominate the mixture. I'm undecided if I'll add a cover to it or not. I don't normally wear artificial scents, so I'm hesitant about picking one.

So, I am curious for which product you did use that is 1 mg/drop. That seems economical when you make a pheromone product of it. In pheromonial products the strength is calculated in a certain amount of mcg/drop.

1 mg = 1000 mcg. Often when I buy single pheromones, there's 1 to 10 mg in 10 ml.

It's the one from Idealabs. The vendor markets his products for a more nootropic/nutraceutical crowd, which is why it's probably not the same strength as scent companies. Andro is a weak androgen that has effects similar to DHT, only not quite as powerful. In dosages around 10 milligrams or higher it starts increasing heat production though. At least with me, and for some people that may be uncomfortable. Bodybuilders have used products like androsterone and epiandrosterone for the "drying" effects. Meaning it leans them out and lowers estrogen.

So after doing some limited research the past couple days, mostly off the brief descriptions provided by "love-scent" company, it appears androsterone itself isn't as foul or offputting in smell on it's own, which may explain why I didn't need a cover scent when using it. Still though, I'm thinking when I try this experiment again I'm going to dial the dosage back. The product I used delivered 1mg of androsterone per drop. I'm thinking I'll quarter that to 0.25 milligrams per drop (in ethanol base) and I'll add some "Androstadienone" to the mixture as well. Based off the reading from Love-Scent, assuming their information is good, it's another not so intense smelling mone that is offering some of the stuff I'm looking for, and I'm curious how it will mix with androsterone. But I enjoy the alpha qualities to androsterone, so it will certainly predominate the mixture. I'm undecided if I'll add a cover to it or not. I don't normally wear artificial scents, so I'm hesitant about picking one.

Hello,

Not pheromone related and if its not permitted (Please delete this post and dm me so i know)

Just wondering...

Anyone here play Cryptocurrencies investment and what do you invest in & why



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Depends on your goals. If privacy is the reason why you're interested in crypto then Monero (XMR) is basically the only one worth your time. Bitcoin and most other crypto coins have a public blockchain, so their transactions can be traced by pretty much anyone. And while it's still technically possible to obtain these coins anonymously with cash, the KYC barriers on all the major platforms will limit your avenues greatly.

If you're just looking for an investment opportunity, then bitcoin may be worth your time. Albeit it's quite volatile lol. ETF's or treasury bills would probably be preferable if you want low-risk. Everyone has their own views about investment though so I won't impede too much here. Staking crypto would be better in my opinion, so something like Solana (SOL) would be easier.

Me personally, I only like Monero. I think *most* people get into crypto for the privacy it alleges to offer, and if that's the case, then Monero is the only one that lives up to the hype.

I'm curious to hear people's experiences with androsterone, either on it's own or mixed in a cover scent. I'd also be interested in knowing the dosage you used. My one experience with it was with a product that was dosed exceptionally high because I was actually using it for it's androgenic properties and not it's pheromonal properties. But it must have inadvertently elicited some of the the pheromonal side effects in the process.

Hi, and welcome to the forums. Thanks for introducing yourself. I will say something as detailed as what you wrote might be better off in the general topic area instead of the member introduction area where it's certain to get orphaned.

Welcome to the site and we look forward to seeing you in the forums.

Thanks for the tip!

New member here. This is my intro with a brief background on my current situation so I apologize if it's a little long. On the outset I wanna say I use to be one of those guys who didn't give much thought to pheromone impact on social situations. Actually, if I'm being honest, I use to find the whole thing scammy and sketchy. I just thought it was a bunch of companies marketing over expensive cologne laced with animal sweat or something, lol. I guess those type of companies exist, but in recent months I've definitely came around to the idea that there may actually be something to this. I say this because I myself had some strange (strange in a good way) encounters when using a product that acted like a pheromone.

I won't name the product I used outright because I don't want people here to think I'm shilling for a specific product, but what the product consisted of was a high-dose of "androsterone."  Now, at the time I didn't even realize androsterone had a "pheromonal" mechanism to it. It's actually a weak 5-ar androgen that increases thermogensis, hardness, reduces estrogen, and can convert into DHT (the most powerful androgen). Some of these reasons were why I was actually using the product.

To me, the product makes me feel very calm (but not lethargic) and produces a heatness...kinda hard to explain.But it makes me feel resilient to daily little stressors. The amount I was using in total was 10 milligrams, which is considerably more than what you see in products geared towards cologne infusions (which is typically less than 1 milligram). I would drop it on my forearms and let it soak in, and usually the physical effects kick in rather quickly, like 10 minutes.

The thing is, I started noticing on this one particular occasion (I applied my andro dose like 45-50 minutes earlier) when I was at a social event I was getting mad stares by several different women. Two of which, I didn't even talk to at all. They were just staring me down with the sex eyes. One of the women I did talk to very briefly but it was small talk like names and work and stuff, but the weird thing about her was she was literally smiling the whole fucking time,like on the borderline of almost laughing it seemed. Like her smile was ear to ear basically. Kinda weird I thought, especially since I didn't exactly hit the "genetic lottery" with looks (my greatest attribute it probably my height, I'm 6'4. But I'm also bald lol.). Like, I do okay with women I guess, but I don't typically have encounters like that. It just looked and seemed different.

That's not all, as far as the other males go I had one guy who I've never even met before strike up a conversation with me and dude seemed very sociable and talkative to me. He was okay, at the time I thought he was kinda like me and just didn't want to be there. This social event wasn't exactly something that was optional for the people there, so it's not like we were all there looking for a good time. This is what struck me as odd about the whole thing.

Anyways, it wasn't until two days later the thought occurred to me that perhaps the androsterone had some sort of effect at increasing pheromones in the body. It was at that point that I saw several animal studies on PudMed that showed androsterone had direct pheromonal effects on mammals. I was floored by all of this. I haven't tried this experiment again yet, but I was considering it. The thing I want to do now is learn more about how I can maximize the efficiency. The biggest contradiction I've experienced is the dose I used was like 10 milligrams. I've seen some people on various sites say you should never use that much. But I can't deny the results I saw. Unless it was one big coincidence the effect it had was positive. Maybe it's because androsterone in particular will convert into other androgen metabolites, and therefore it won't completely oversaturate yourself with one molecule? I wasn't using it inside any cover scent either, like I said I was purely using it for the neurosteroidal properties and didn't initially give it's pheromonal effects any consideration. 

Maybe someone else can tell me some experiences they've had with this stuff and tell me how I might can mix it with scents or other pheromones for a more targeted result. I'm willing to learn because I don't really know much at this point.

Thanks,