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You must have very good cold approach game.  You're new to mones but how many years have you been cold approaching?

About 14 years give or take. In my 20s I got fired from multiple jobs because pickup was just more important to me lol. It took over my whole life. I used to rent a Vegas mansion with some of the best guys in the community back in 2013/14. Had some of the most wild experiences of my life, and learned a ton.

I'm 37 now, life is more balanced than it was back then. But pickup is still very much a way of life for me.

I just started getting into pheromones in 2025 but I went on an enormous buying spree and tested most of them out.

In order of which pheromones got me laid the most:

1. SOB
2. Barely Legal
3. Swoon
4. Taboo
5. Nude

Most of the time I used SOB/BL in combo in nightgame and they work beautifully together when you can embody the attitude of SOB.

I ordered Chicara because legend has it, it's very good for attracting blonde girls.

I don't know how this is possible especially if it doesn't really mean girls who are genetically blonde but rather dye their hair.

Nonetheless I'll be testing it out.

I also love how people said it repels the less attractive girls. If that's true - beautiful. Less work for me.

Does anyone have recommendations for what to pair it with? Seems like it's more social/good for escalation to the point of kissing. And not a total home run.

I also ordered Alpha 7 with it. Will be testing Chicara by itself and in combo with Alpha 7.

I should probably start a journal to record my results from all this. I also wanted to detail my pickup strategies from 15 years in the game, as someone has asked here before. I have been very deep down the rabbit hole with that and have a lot to say. That's still coming and it will be a very long post. Will probably post to my journal when I get it started.

Just posting this here because I have to go to thanksgiving with my family and wanted to get it out really quick.

So yeah - experiences with Chicara? Recommendations for what to pair it with?

Upon reflection I realize I don't need to learn scripts to be a better speaker.

My experience with the Barely Legal combo worked magic last night with an HB9 with natural, granular, conversation.

I discuss my expereince in the BL thread.

To be honest I found it too tame solo for my age.  I had to combo it up with some other products.

Haha I was just going to write a reply about how I don't use scripts/routines for that reason.

Yeah I love BL. I wish they sold it in 30ml! I add a 10ml one to every order from PXS just to be sure I don't run out.

And yeah that's why I combine BL with SOB a lot. BL lacks the edge but works so well for vibing.

I cold approach almost daily.

My game is pretty direct. I only go indirect if it's obvious that direct would be inappropriate for the situation. i.e. if it's at a funeral or something lol.

Other than that it's pretty authentic. I have DHVs I sprinkle in but I see push-pull as inauthentic and counterproductive.

Most of my game is based around vibing naturally and moving the interaction forward. Open -> number -> date -> lay -> rotation. Straight-line persuasion style.

Where did you learn your method of game from?  It seems like you've got an actual blueprint or method to the madness that stems beyond trial and error. Resources?

I have been doing game since way back in the day, I even used to live in a "project vegas" of sorts back in 2015 with a bunch of guys who were really dedicated to this. So it's kind of a mishmash of what I've picked up from the last 15yrs.

BUT one of the biggest needle-movers for me was JMULV's methods. He goes by John Anthony Lifestyle now on YouTube. You really can't beat his systems, and you can layer in whatever applies to you that helps after that.

Aside from that I'm an ardent student of evolutionary psychology. When you study that you can't get swayed by the social media bullshit going around or marketing trying to tell you what girls want and making you feel inadequate.

Also Mystery is an OG, but I think the Mystery Method overcomplicates things. The stuff from the Mystery Method that still applies is:
> Attraction switches (from evolutionary psych)
> Compliance model
> Microcalibration

His other stuff like "group theory" and "negging" is stupid and turns more guys into social terrorists than seducers.

Also I have been in marketing/copywriting for the past 12ish years and viewing the whole process like a sales funnel is extremely helpful. Another user on here asked me to write a longer post detailing my whole strategy and when I get the time to write that out, I will definitely do it. Probably this weekend.

Notice any depression or side effects from the A1 in BL?

Not really, aside from a mild light-headedness the next day. IMO it's worth it.

Keep in mind i only get the side effects from A1 after I wear the single molecule (2 or 3 drops) a couple days in a row. And even then I wouldn't call it depression. More like introspection.

I cold approach almost daily.

My game is pretty direct. I only go indirect if it's obvious that direct would be inappropriate for the situation. i.e. if it's at a funeral or something lol.

Other than that it's pretty authentic. I have DHVs I sprinkle in but I see push-pull as inauthentic and counterproductive.

Most of my game is based around vibing naturally and moving the interaction forward. Open -> number -> date -> lay -> rotation. Straight-line persuasion style.

Hey bro how do you like nude, and swoon? How are they solo on their own?

I love both of them. Swoon has def been a staple for me in general, it has such a fun vibe. It's great for younger women. It makes girls in their early 20s give me the doggy dinner bowl look. Their eyes kinda glaze over and they smile as they look up at me. And swoon alone gives me that exact same reaction from multiple younger women I talk to whenever I'm wearing it alone. It's a very specific reaction and kind of unmistakable.

Nude is also great for cold approach. I think it helps put the attention on you in a way in social settings. The self-effects make me more extroverted. And the beautifying effect is very very real.

Both of them also are very non-threatening when worn alone. Versatile for daytime settings, work settings, and night settings. During the night tho I'd pair them with SOB which is just such a reliable one for what it does.

What do you think of barely legal?

I love BL, it just gives you this vibe where you're just on the same wavelength with younger women. The name is a little creepy but the blend is excellent.

What do you like better Taboo or BL? If i have already taboo is BL worth still trying?

Depends on what your goals are really. BL works better on a specific type of woman, younger, or "young at heart" types respond really well to it.

Just purchased BL.
Have you ever gotten kissing, oral sex, or sex with BL solo?  If in combo what did you pair it with?
Is it just a social/flirty vibe meant to vibe with young at heart girls or does it get you laying them?

I'm not looking for platonic relations.

It's definitely not platonic. But also on the more social side. I really do love it, I almost feel like you can't OD on it. I sprayed like 20 sprays on myself when I was first testing it just to see what would happen, then went to meet my friend for dinner. Immediately I walk in the door of the restaurant and the two college-age hostess chicks were completely on my wavelength. "On the same wavelength" is the best way I can describe it.

It's like you just see each other and you're connecting with them, and before you even talk you both just know you're riding each other's vibes and they want to get to know you. Self effects made me more fun and animated, too. And it gave me a ton of opportunities for escalation.

I have worn BL solo with girls I was already sleeping with and had no problems there. But nowadays I'm usually pairing it with something else when meeting new women to steer it toward a more sexual/intimate realm.

BL was best for escalation when paired with SOB. That combo is one of my faves. SOB adds an edge to BL that it doesn't have on its own. Taboo is great with it too.

In fact, I wanna say 3 or so months ago (last july) I number closed a stripper while wearing all 3 - BL/Taboo/SOB. She was one of MANY strippers in the place that showed super overt interest in me that night. Like staring from across the room, trying to get my attention, etc.

It was a super on night for me, I don't know if that mone combo was the sole reason why but it DEFINITELY helped. And the girl I #closed was def one of the hottest girls in the place. Not THE hottest, the hottest strippers are always busy grinding on geriatric men... but she was in the top 5.

I was wearing the same (BL/Taboo/SOB) when I met with her as a regular person the next day and banged.

One thing I noticed with the BL that night is that it creates this connection/vibe with hot girls, but you have to DIRECT where you want it to go. I noticed with a couple strippers, they definitely felt like it was "on" with me in that sense, but they interpreted it like I was a CUSTOMER and even a potential REGULAR for them at first. Which I've never had happen so blatantly. Like they felt the vibe pull so strongly that they were like, "Oh yeah, this guy wants to come back and buy dances from me on a regular basis" when I hadn't even bought one dance from them at all (and I never do unless they're indisputably on the same page that I'm not a customer).

Part of that is my fault as with strip club game getting OUT of the customer frame is priority numero uno and I didn't cement myself as "not a customer" enough with those girls (the easiest way to do that is to just say you work in the industry, as a DJ or business leader or something else. But I don't like to lie and was primarily trying to do it by implication using more subtle strategies so they come to their own conclusion that I wasn't a bitch-ass customer. When it works, it works better but implications don't always land with some girls so you have to be more explicit with them).

Once I was more explicit it's like a bell went off in their heads and they got it. It's the vibe of, "I get what this place is and I'm not playing that game because I'm not a sad little man who pays for this."

So keep that in mind. I think BL is excellent for opening the door to escalation because of the vibe it creates with women. But you have to be the one who leads them through it.

I cold approach almost daily.

My game is pretty direct. I only go indirect if it's obvious that direct would be inappropriate for the situation. i.e. if it's at a funeral or something lol.

Other than that it's pretty authentic. I have DHVs I sprinkle in but I see push-pull as inauthentic and counterproductive.

Most of my game is based around vibing naturally and moving the interaction forward. Open -> number -> date -> lay -> rotation. Straight-line persuasion style.

Hey bro how do you like nude, and swoon? How are they solo on their own?

I love both of them. Swoon has def been a staple for me in general, it has such a fun vibe. It's great for younger women. It makes girls in their early 20s give me the doggy dinner bowl look. Their eyes kinda glaze over and they smile as they look up at me. And swoon alone gives me that exact same reaction from multiple younger women I talk to whenever I'm wearing it alone. It's a very specific reaction and kind of unmistakable.

Nude is also great for cold approach. I think it helps put the attention on you in a way in social settings. The self-effects make me more extroverted. And the beautifying effect is very very real.

Both of them also are very non-threatening when worn alone. Versatile for daytime settings, work settings, and night settings. During the night tho I'd pair them with SOB which is just such a reliable one for what it does.

What do you think of barely legal?

I love BL, it just gives you this vibe where you're just on the same wavelength with younger women. The name is a little creepy but the blend is excellent.

What do you like better Taboo or BL? If i have already taboo is BL worth still trying?

Depends on what your goals are really. BL works better on a specific type of woman, younger, or "young at heart" types respond really well to it.

I cold approach almost daily.

My game is pretty direct. I only go indirect if it's obvious that direct would be inappropriate for the situation. i.e. if it's at a funeral or something lol.

Other than that it's pretty authentic. I have DHVs I sprinkle in but I see push-pull as inauthentic and counterproductive.

Most of my game is based around vibing naturally and moving the interaction forward. Open -> number -> date -> lay -> rotation. Straight-line persuasion style.

Hey bro how do you like nude, and swoon? How are they solo on their own?

I love both of them. Swoon has def been a staple for me in general, it has such a fun vibe. It's great for younger women. It makes girls in their early 20s give me the doggy dinner bowl look. Their eyes kinda glaze over and they smile as they look up at me. And swoon alone gives me that exact same reaction from multiple younger women I talk to whenever I'm wearing it alone. It's a very specific reaction and kind of unmistakable.

Nude is also great for cold approach. I think it helps put the attention on you in a way in social settings. The self-effects make me more extroverted. And the beautifying effect is very very real.

Both of them also are very non-threatening when worn alone. Versatile for daytime settings, work settings, and night settings. During the night tho I'd pair them with SOB which is just such a reliable one for what it does.

What do you think of barely legal?

I love BL, it just gives you this vibe where you're just on the same wavelength with younger women. The name is a little creepy but the blend is excellent.

The problem with Nude and Swoon the girls are too young.  Almost too young for most men to play with.

I notice attraction from 18-22 yo girls 90% of the time. 

Lol hey 18-22 is still legal in most jurisdictions 😂

I've had success with those two with girls even in late 20s. But I usually pair with SOB for nightgame. Pairing either one of them with Taboo is great too, I've had older women respond to that.

I last ordered from them in August, super-fast delivery. But this makes me sad. A few PXS blends have become staples for me!

I hope they pull through. This explains why SOB oil has been out of stock since march.

Quite interesting. I would be interested in reading more about these and your thoughts on seduction as a whole in a separate longer post. It had been a long time since I had heard Mystery's name and all the other stuff.

Haha yeah I'd love to do that man. Pickup isn't even popular anymore for some reason, this is not the result I thought I'd see when I first discovered it in 2009ish and became obsessed. Younger guys don't even know about it now. And there's all this bullshit dating content all over social media giving men the wrong ideas.

I've been going strong in the trenches for a long time now. When I get the time I'll write a post about it for sure.

I cold approach almost daily.

My game is pretty direct. I only go indirect if it's obvious that direct would be inappropriate for the situation. i.e. if it's at a funeral or something lol.

Other than that it's pretty authentic. I have DHVs I sprinkle in but I see push-pull as inauthentic and counterproductive.

Most of my game is based around vibing naturally and moving the interaction forward. Open -> number -> date -> lay -> rotation. Straight-line persuasion style.

Hey bro how do you like nude, and swoon? How are they solo on their own?

I love both of them. Swoon has def been a staple for me in general, it has such a fun vibe. It's great for younger women. It makes girls in their early 20s give me the doggy dinner bowl look. Their eyes kinda glaze over and they smile as they look up at me. And swoon alone gives me that exact same reaction from multiple younger women I talk to whenever I'm wearing it alone. It's a very specific reaction and kind of unmistakable.

Nude is also great for cold approach. I think it helps put the attention on you in a way in social settings. The self-effects make me more extroverted. And the beautifying effect is very very real.

Both of them also are very non-threatening when worn alone. Versatile for daytime settings, work settings, and night settings. During the night tho I'd pair them with SOB which is just such a reliable one for what it does.

I cold approach almost daily.

My game is pretty direct. I only go indirect if it's obvious that direct would be inappropriate for the situation. i.e. if it's at a funeral or something lol.

Other than that it's pretty authentic. I have DHVs I sprinkle in but I see push-pull as inauthentic and counterproductive.

Most of my game is based around vibing naturally and moving the interaction forward. Open -> number -> date -> lay -> rotation. Straight-line persuasion style.

I didn't know swoon had imprinting effects, interesting. I've been using it for a while, but also dating multiple girls. I never felt imprinting for any one particular woman.

I'd recommend even to follicly, cosmetically, height challenged guys to work volume, and optimize your game the way you would optimize a marketing or sales funnel.

The steps are:

Approach -> number -> date -> lay -> FB or LTR.

From my experience about 10% of approaches lead to numbers if you're approaching in a target-rich area. 20-40% of numbers lead to dates. And if you run the date properly and seed the pull each time, about 70% of dates end back at your place getting jiggy with it. Once you have all that dialed in it's just about putting more girls into the top of the funnel.

Once you bang a girl 3ish times she gets the memo and starts seeing you as a regular FB.

This is how at any given time I have 3-5 consistent FBs. I've had as many as 14 at a time but that's a full-time job lol. I have seen even bald guys and guys who are far shorter get metrics like that too.

To get them, you need to dial in your strategy. For example it's a rookie mistake not to schedule the date close to your house. If the girl wants to "meet in the middle" you just say "let's meet close to me this time, then next time we can meet closer to your place " and I've never had them not agree.

Similarly, if you don't have DHVs ready (meaning stuff that is 100% true for you and not bragging, but gives you higher value just because you're talking about yourself that way) then you won't get as many numbers. Mystery's old-school attraction switches still apply. But ethically speaking, they should be true and unique to you.

If you're a scared child and can't approach, or you're only approaching in areas where there are married women, you won't get as many numbers there either.

I truly believe most guys can dial all of this stuff in to have a pipeline of dates at all times with minimal time investment. Behavior matters, especially since female attraction is based far more on vibes than overt physical qualities. Read some evolutionary psychology books from authors like David Buss or Geoffrey Miller if you don't believe me.

I do think the exception to that is if you're fat. I put on some lbs a few years ago, even when I was about 25lbs overweight I had no problems attracting hot girls. But it started to taper off when I let myself go and reached 35+ lbs overweight. Had to go on a strict diet + 10,000 steps daily and I'm only about 15 lbs overweight now. Still working on it. But the increased receptiveness of girls when I got closer to my fighting weight was noticeable.

So yeah, control everything you can control about your looks. By all means. If you're bald, just shave your head. Literally the dude who is on video banging the most hot girls probably ever did that (Johnny Sins).

And if you can't control it, like you're short or something, then don't worry about it.

Basically the best moves when it comes to game are things you can do to move the interaction forward smoothly. So:

If you don't have her number, get her number as quickly as possible without being socially uncalibrated.

All texts you send to her should have the ultimate goal of getting her to meet up for a date without being pushy.

Then on the date, obviously vibe and relax and get to know her, but make sure to 1. DHV and show interest in her 2. mention something that is cool that's back at your place, that she needs to check out - a show, the view from your balcony, your dog, whatever. And 3. work on sexualizing the conversation or make innocent sexual jokes that are easy for her to laugh at. Also ideal to not sit across from her at a table but find somewhere where you can sit side by side to introduce physicality. Touch her shoulder/hand/etc. Wear interesting bracelets she can touch as you're explaining the story behind it.

Then at the end of the date, "Oh you should check out that xyz I mentioned, my place is right around the corner we should go." I often add "Don't worry, it's not for sex" if I think she might use that as an objection. Or I'll say "You can just have one drink at my place then you have to go, I have to be up early for xyz thing." 

Back at your place do whatever the thing is you seeded, but it's best to have a setup where you can sit next to her on your couch. From there it's usually pretty simple to escalate. Initiate a kiss by saying "What color are your eyes?" Then do triangular gazing - R eye, L eye, lips, repeat.

In short, I don't like most PUA stuff because it's gimmicky and wastes time/energy on minutia. Authenticity is better than lines. The most important moves are the moves that move the girl to the next stage of the funnel.

Mystery's observations are valid, but speaking from lots of experience he massively overcomplicated the game. The most important stuff to know from Mystery's work are DHVs, attraction switches, and the compliance model. Mystery is still an OG and deserves everyone's respect though.

Also it helps to nerd out on evolutionary psychology. The book Why Women Have Sex by David Buss is a good one. Also The Mating Mind by Geoffrey Miller explains how things like humor, wit, art, music, dancing, style, etc. evolved in our species as fitness indicators similar to the peacock's feathers. Because they have no significance for survival. Their purpose is to help women select mates for reproduction.

Anyway this is a long post sorry for droning on but I get passionate about this stuff when guys think the only advantages you can have are purely height, money, looks, etc.

It's the classic mistake both sexes make of thinking that the opposite sex is attracted to them for the same reasons they are attracted to the opposite sex. I've seen obese women go to all the trouble of becoming a doctor because they think it will make high-value men more attracted to them. Not the case. Much easier to lose 60lbs than go through med school.