What is your review of Aromafero?

[TracerX]

DaBrain™ Aroma Fero uses Stripe payments, after the order you get an automated email from a mailbox such as <something something> @ stripe.com as a confirmation.

As you already know we sell TESTERS. We take the original product and refill the liquid into the smaller ones.

The opened cap was on AV unscented full bottle - NOT a tester.

4. Experienced pheromone users will say, that you cannot expect that magic will happen. Pheromone is just an additive to You

I'm aware of this rethoric and both in my review here and in our email exchange I mentioned that it's not just effects but also how the spot smells after the cover fragrance fades. With the tester of BW I got summer 2022 spot was smelling mones. With two full bottles I got 2023 after cover fragrance fades the spot smell like my skin smell without mones - nothing. Whom should I trust my nose or your honest words?

This reminds me. The few testers of Bad Wolf I ordered from Aroma Fero, seemed to work just a bit better for me than the full bottle I got from Garry directly once. Your body gets used to BW, hence if you use it constantly you won't "notice" the effects.

[DaBrain™]

DaBrain™ Aroma Fero uses Stripe payments, after the order you get an automated email from a mailbox such as <something something> @ stripe.com as a confirmation.

As you already know we sell TESTERS. We take the original product and refill the liquid into the smaller ones.

The opened cap was on AV unscented full bottle - NOT a tester.

4. Experienced pheromone users will say, that you cannot expect that magic will happen. Pheromone is just an additive to You

I'm aware of this rethoric and both in my review here and in our email exchange I mentioned that it's not just effects but also how the spot smells after the cover fragrance fades. With the tester of BW I got summer 2022 spot was smelling mones. With two full bottles I got 2023 after cover fragrance fades the spot smell like my skin smell without mones - nothing. Whom should I trust my nose or your honest words?

This reminds me. The few testers of Bad Wolf I ordered from Aroma Fero, seemed to work just a bit better for me than the full bottle I got from Garry directly once. Your body gets used to BW, hence if you use it constantly you won't "notice" the effects.

Hello TracerX,

I find your efforts admirable.
I used to order from AF very often and know the order.
However, I refer back to my previous post and still refer to ongoing investigations. Therefore, I cannot go into details at the moment.

Here are a few more tips on how I very often proceed:
I'm sure many know Revolut (a real bank), there is a helpful feature here. You can create free virtual credit cards within seconds and then use them for online stores, for example. Here I use a card for a store. This can then be used, for example, to restrict misuse in dubious stores.

If you want to have a ref-link to benefit from a starting credit, please write me a PN.

[Tzar]

Still no message on PM from you guys. @Tzar, @DaBrain™ can you please write your email, I could check our emails.

Paulius, I bought a given product from you and I'm dissapointed by it. That's that. And wrote it in a online forum..

I don't see how further email checking would solve the issue. I wrote here truly, only thing that I'm not 100% certain is the 1 month time to respond (as I have deleted our exchange and can't check it).

But for sure it was at least 2 weeks.. This one + lack of BW smell + another bottle opened raising suspicion, isn't it.

Hopefully you have not scamed me. Could be a bad batch or whatever else. 

Take care!

Aroma Fero only orders the product as it was originally intended by Garry, once the shipment reaches AF, that's it, no other alterations can be done. Same goes for all other vendors AF resells for.

Yes, but AF have their own lab, no? Just saying, of course can't prove anything, but I have stated my reasons to be suspicious...

@TracerX . I used a single tester over the course of one year so I don't think I got so much used to it. Also by the time I got 2 full bottles there were few drops left in the tester. So I could pick the difference in smell more like the lack of mones smell in full bottles.

[unusualfellow]

I have spent thousands of dollars at Aroma Fero via credit card and everything seemed legit to me...

[sigma]

I placed my first ever order of mones from Aromafero. They ship pretty fast and i haven't faced any issues at all so far and my mones seem to be effective. But i wanted to ask if you guys trust them? or how have your experiences with them so far? Has there ever been any difference in quality of products when you order them from original vendors vs aromafero?

I order from aromafero. It's a quite nice shop and covers every product from every vendor except pxs. I never faced any quality issue with them. If you are based in Europe/EMEA it is great shop to order as shipping time is lesser for Europe compared to USA which might take a month if you opt for Standard shipping. Sometimes some products like Casanova is cheaper on aromafero than real vendor website which might be exception for Sick. So overall I think it's pretty safe to order from aromafero.

[RussianWolf]

The first time i ordered i got a fraud alert from my bank, but that was only because My bank does that when ordering from overseas.  I had to call my bank and let them know it was legit.  I always order fast shipping, pay the extra cost and get them within the week.

[Shyhim]

Aroma Fero only orders the product as it was originally intended by Garry, once the shipment reaches AF, that's it, no other alterations can be done. Same goes for all other vendors AF resells for.


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Yes, we cannot make big orders from them, for products that are not "default formulas", but we can ask to make us some special products. For example only fragrances, Pheromone with a different fragrance, unscented Bad Wolf and so on.


But of course it takes a bit longer time.

[Shyhim]

DaBrain™ Aroma Fero uses Stripe payments, after the order you get an automated email from a mailbox such as <something something> @ stripe.com as a confirmation.

As you already know we sell TESTERS. We take the original product and refill the liquid into the smaller ones.

Sorry, I am a bit confused with the posts but:

We can accept different payment methods:

(LTU) AB, Swedbank
LT22*************032

(USA) Community Federal Savings Bank
Account number – 84******77
ACH Routing number – 02*****50
Swift – C******3

(UK) Modulr FS Limited Bank
Account number – 05****70
Sort Code – 04***5

Stripe, send the receipt of your successful payment. That's is very good from a payers perspective.


I could not understand how to attach the picture here. So just copied a text from automated email, that stripe us:
Receipt from Aroma Fero
 
Receipt #1192-0439
 
   
AMOUNT PAID
$XXXXXXXXXXXXXX   
DATE PAID
May 2, 2024, 7:19:02 PM       
PAYMENT METHOD
Visa - XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXx   
 
SUMMARY   
 
Order 48255 from Aroma Fero        $XXXXXXXXXXXXXxx
 
Amount charged        $XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXxxx
 
If you have any questions, contact us at wholesale@aromafero.lt or call at +370 626 34555.

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Stripe has a customer protection. Usually it works better for a customer and not seller, even if the customer is not right or scammer

DrBrain - there are no investigations. If you was charged and you cannot recognize this operation, you can always contact your bank and than investigation starts. After 1 month you or seller loose. everything is so easy.

At last. @DrBrain I think you sell some S1ck product here. Am I right. Is this the reason, that Aroma Fero, became unreliable.

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Coming back to the Turkish guy..

Here is the email, Jonny replied to him:

Jonny
04-30, an 20:00
to info, wholesale

Hello My name is Jonny, I am the owner of S1CK and Paulius is indeed one of our few vendors that carry the S1CK brand we don't understand what is happening in your situation, but we're here to confirm and assure you that all products come from us directly and goes to our vendors.  No formulas are ever changed since 2020, as this is our agreement with Liquid Alchemy Labs With Myself And The Founder. All results may vary from each wearer thank you.

[Shyhim]

Hopefully you have not scamed me. Could be a bad batch or whatever else. 

Take care!

@Tzar - NO, we are not scammers.

Take care too.

[DaBrain™]

DrBrain - there are no investigations. If you was charged and you cannot recognize this operation, you can always contact your bank and than investigation starts. After 1 month you or seller loose. everything is so easy.

At last. @DrBrain I think you sell some S1ck product here. Am I right. Is this the reason, that Aroma Fero, became unreliable.

Apparently you don't understand what the problem is.
I took a look at your server and did a few publicly accessible and legal tests. I can tell you that you don't have your server under control or you simply don't care about security.
Even if your transactions are processed via Stripe, the communication between your server and Stripe can be intercepted. One variant would be a "man in the middle attack". I suspect that's exactly what happened here. Credit card data was intercepted and then misused in the most stupid way. The investigation is ongoing and I strongly suspect that you will be contacted very soon. Stripe is neither responsible nor liable in this case, you are! You are responsible for your server/shop and the connection to service providers. I have been working in the IT industry for over 20 years with a focus on IT security, I just find it irresponsible to do something like this... Here is a screenshot of a very simple and superficial test...



Regarding the second point, I don't quite understand your sentence. Are you accusing me of denouncing you here in order to sell a few bottles of s1ck v1? Some users were meanwhile unsure whether they could reliably obtain the first version of AlphaQ and Casanova. Since I had a lot to do with Jonny the last weeks and a friendship developed from it, I had a favor with him since I set up and administrate his forum. I then organized a few bottles. Making me out to be competition is just ridiculous and just shows me your desperation. It would be easy for me to set up a store within a very short time that is safe and reliable, but don't worry, I don't intend to do that. But if I'm accused of something again, I might reconsider. If I'm going to be accused of something, then at least it should be justified.

And to be fair, I had tried to contact you a few times in the past to point out the problems, but the emails went unanswered, hence the posting here in the forum. But surely you claim that you haven't received any, right?

[TracerX]

The thread is getting a bit out of hand.

DaBrain™ I'm quite surprised you didn't run this sort of test of S1ck's shop. As they seem to have gotten an even lower score than Aromafero. S1ck got 0/10. You should've given us a heads up since you seem to be well connected with them.



If you look also at other pheromone sites, they all seem to get a zero(e.g: Alpha dream and PXS)

Alpha Dream Scan
PXS Scan

I've started receiving too many DMs now regarding this thread.

DaBrain people seem to think that you're actually trying do an anti-competitive operation here, giving Aroma Fero a bad name.

- You've recently sold some of s1ck's v1 fragrances here,
- You've built s1ck a forum out of nowhere which you're administrating
- You're also the only one who knew about s1cks live stream which wasn't really any much of a live stream from what I recall.


One person even strongly suggests you're Jonny from S1ck (I don't really believe that though).

In practical terms you're now a vendor. What kind of top confidential investigation that you're free to mention but say nothing of is going on here? It's beyond shady. Your mindset seems to be making money out of our community, you've even offered a Revolut referral link, sure for safety reasons. You don't need a referral for Revolut ( which is a shady company I use nonetheless, but use at you risk cause they can lock accounts out of nowhere).

[DaBrain™]

The thread is getting a bit out of hand.

DaBrain™ I'm quite surprised you didn't run this sort of test of S1ck's shop. As they seem to have gotten an even lower score than Aromafero. S1ck got 0/10. You should've given us a heads up since you seem to be well connected with them.



If you look also at other pheromone sites, they all seem to get a zero(e.g: Alpha dream and PXS)

Alpha Dream Scan
PXS Scan

I've started receiving too many DMs now regarding this thread.

DaBrain people seem to think that you're actually trying do an anti-competitive operation here, giving Aroma Fero a bad name.

- You've recently sold some of s1ck's v1 fragrances here,
- You've built s1ck a forum out of nowhere which you're administrating
- You're also the only one who knew about s1cks live stream which wasn't really any much of a live stream from what I recall.


One person even strongly suggests you're Jonny from S1ck (I don't really believe that though).

In practical terms you're now a vendor. What kind of top confidential investigation that you're free to mention but say nothing of is going on here? It's beyond shady. Your mindset seems to be making money out of our community, you've even offered a Revolut referral link, sure for safety reasons. You don't need a referral for Revolut ( which is a shady company I use nonetheless, but use at you risk cause they can lock accounts out of nowhere).

I have become so fixated on AromaFero because I was affected myself.
As already mentioned, I had also tried to inform AF about this and I tried it in several ways. Each time my message was ignored.
I have made no secret of the fact that I have been in contact with Jonny here over the last few weeks and I have also stated this, so I don't understand your statement and your reasoning.
How exactly do you expect me to earn big money? Because I organized a product that many users wanted and complained that they didn't get it? Was I the one who asked almost twice as much for a bottle of AlphaQ or Casanova v1 here in the forum?
The server costs for the archive so that it is available with high performance worldwide are not exactly low, who has donated or otherwise offered support so far? Exactly 1 user!

Claiming I'm Jonny is just stupid... even if I install and configure a forum incl. domain in less than 1 hour because I do this professionally and am an expert...

Regarding your statement about the test of the other stores, as already mentioned, this is rather a very simple and superficial test, if you look at the server there is much more. I had no incident with the other stores.

I have tried to point out a serious problem here as an affected person and have really shown patience here for over 4 weeks. It was simply ignored and not answered. Who wouldn't be angry?

Furthermore, I have offered a ref link yes, but only if a user wants it, I have not posted it.

You can't talk about police investigations and that's the case in every country! As long as these are not completed, I will not reveal any details here. To make me out to be a liar because of this is quite brazen.

I realize more and more that if you really actively try to help the community, you end up being the enemy

You are welcome to close the thread here, I will not comment on it any more. Everyone is free to order where they want, you don't have to believe me or do what I'm told. However, I stand by my statement: AromaFero is not reputable!

DaBrain™

[Alphonso]

I have been ordering frequently from aromafero for years. First year was 2016 from memory and I still order today. Excepted the PXS products, my entire collection come from aromafero. I never had an issue. For me, the experience is very good.

[Tzar]

Last month or so I played with 2 BW bottles I have from AF. For BW new my mind have not changed.

For BW old I have to admit that is not 100% lacking mone smells as I previously stated here. I could pick a mone (maybe enone) smell comparing it with other products. But it feels like 1/4 of what Im used to. So it's either heavily diluted or its made in a way mones and cover fragrnce being meld together so it doesn't smell so raw like the old tester Im comparing it with. Also back then I got hits with 1 or two drops and for 2-3 days wit just one application.
While now i put 5-6-7 drops and yes I could see some obvious hits but ye.

[manatee]

Great customer support. Called the number while they were out of the office, the man on the other side of the phone literally fixed my order issue through his phone outside of regular working hours. Shipping is also fast asf.