Dating apps Profile

[Johnny Fever]

PP. Johnny, sorry for offtopic and my poor English but did you say your balding is related to eye muscle problems?

No, not related, but I was just illustrating the shortcomings I'm up against with today's dating climate. Two separate issues that, when paired together, make it much harder to overcome.

[SigmaWolf]

Hinge is only good with a new profile. Bumble, you have to change your profile prompts and pictures frequently. Coffe meets bagel is FOB Asian girls. Honestly, you aren't going to meet the love of your life through an app. If you go on 20+ dates, the high quality girl you think your going on a date with has gone on more. Be cocky/funny/ sexual early on. Every guy on a dating app is treating a high quality girl or even an average girl like she is on a pedestal. Act like the prize, have high quality pics, be sexual early on, and you will have more success. As far as pics, some recommend shirtless walking a dog. I prefer more masculine pics on things women can't take over in my life like shooting and golfing.  But treat it as fun, don't take it personal. 100 other girls to match with. Dating apps put pussy as the hierarchy and fat girls think they can date up on a guy. So don't take it to personal.

Another tip, get them off the app as quickly as possible and set up the date quickly. You aren't the only guy she is talking to. Be different, and be the prize.


My two cents after ending a long term relationship and dating on apps the last two years.

Mones with success for lays off of apps on first date: Sob + evolve, Bw + xist, M3X + SOB

Dating after sex: SOB + Evolve

I thought dating app has this eloscore thing where your profile ranking is analaysed by the algorithm as well as the girls respondness to your profile to determine how high rank your profile is , the higher means you will get shown to more woman...

With Hinge, you mention it's only good for new accs, is it because your eloscore drops after that.

For bumble , why constant change profile. Mind elaborate a bit thanks

[Mr Highvalue]

I think I get what you are saying, only need to ask you about this :

Lone wolves are infamous for these labels.

Would that mean if you are lone wolf naturally you are deemed to be seen as creep/loser or only if you are the lone wolf who is saying pickup lines to girls?

Cause there is contradiction. From one hand being distant and aloof can turn the girls on, and from another they could see you as socially crippled.

I want to ask you something more cause you sound very experienced with girls and socially overall unlike me.
So preselection is very legit and Ive seen the results from it after I have scored a new girl.

But how to start from the beginning if you have not get laid from awhile?

Just using DP ?  Man, I have almost full tester of it and that stuff stinks pussy very hard. I'm afraid it will come very exagerated unnaturall even for a man who just had an orgy with 10 girls. Any other tips? I guess getting laid with girls well bellow your looks is not an option too.
 

Yes  if you're on your own in places and times as a man when you shouldn't be e.g. bars, parties etc you will come off as a socially awkward creep. That's all I mean. Obviously if you're out shopping or at the gym, this wouldn't apply.

As a man it is up to you to initiate at the start, not act aloof. When you start dating is when the aloofness will play into your favour. You need to be a man of mystery and not reveal a lot about yourself to a woman very quickly. Once the novel has been read it's finished. Women view men like a novel to be read, once the book is finished, boredom sets in and they dont want you anymore.

How to start from the beginning. There is a good video I saw recently about this. But you must have a proper social group or group of friends, preferably with women, but if not, watch this video for a good idea. He sums it up extremely well IMO:

https://youtu.be/vGXgTWo5e10?si=3BeGTckUJHgy_xo6

[Tzar]

https://youtu.be/vGXgTWo5e10?si=3BeGTckUJHgy_xo6

Thanks for the video, I actually came across this guy by the time that video came up. Sure this is most sensible pua/dating coach I know so far but I'm still very sceptical.

Because he is driving a Ferrari, and I think he said it was parked in front of the cafe of that particular video.

And then he literally says : guys look girls trhow themselfs at me because I sit chilled in the cafe minding my own bussiness and not staring thursty, while I'm wearing 100$ watch, $20 t-shirt and a cowboy cap... C'mon

I've seen it IRL many times. If a Ferrari is parked in front, the very second woman steps in, she knows to whom it belongs.. It's biology.

Also he mention often in his videos that he is open with girls about his dating coaching. So that instantly gives him a leader aura. If me and you say to girl we watch pua videos, it's over. But he can say it cause he is the teacher/guru. Tens of thousands if not hundeds are watching his videos and give him money. That's it.
And yet he has the cheek to name videos like ''woman are attracted to proper front-end game'' LMAO

Ok, enough of me blackpill ranting 

[Mr Highvalue]

https://youtu.be/vGXgTWo5e10?si=3BeGTckUJHgy_xo6

Thanks for the video, I actually came across this guy by the time that video came up. Sure this is most sensible pua/dating coach I know so far but I'm still very sceptical.

Because he is driving a Ferrari, and I think he said it was parked in front of the cafe of that particular video.

And then he literally says : guys look girls trhow themselfs at me because I sit chilled in the cafe minding my own bussiness and not staring thursty, while I'm wearing 100$ watch, $20 t-shirt and a cowboy cap... C'mon

I've seen it IRL many times. If a Ferrari is parked in front, the very second woman steps in, she knows to whom it belongs.. It's biology.

Also he mention often in his videos that he is open with girls about his dating coaching. So that instantly gives him a leader aura. If me and you say to girl we watch pua videos, it's over. But he can say it cause he is the teacher/guru. Tens of thousands if not hundeds are watching his videos and give him money. That's it.
And yet he has the cheek to name videos like ''woman are attracted to proper front-end game'' LMAO

Ok, enough of me blackpill ranting 

Yes, he actually suggests men work on themselves physically and financially though. But he says at the end of the day that your looks, money and status is not what really attracts and keeps the girls around. I'm still sceptical, but whatever.

Let me show you a post I personally left in his community about what I heard two girls talk about today. This is my post, I wrote it into his group discussion:

https://ibb.co/rtxHwxq

So yes when I listen to how women speak about men when nobody they know is around them and they are in private what they say ACTUALLY DOES match up to black pill/ red bill philosophy. So there is a lot of truth the the red/black pill beliefs IMO.

[Tzar]

Ye, no doubt we have to work on ourself in every aspect.

What I wanted to say is that he has succes with girls because he has made it in life, has lot of friends, being millionaire, not handsome but masculine looking, not so tall but not short either, he appears to be 1.80 at least on camera. Half a million man following him - guru.

All this allow him to laid back and appear preselected. But if you are neither of above list, just sitting there not thursty, not much will happen with women...

And yes that is showing conversation. Basically what women do from age of 4 is discussing men. Literally it is all they talk about. But we must not get cynical about their shallowness. It's a biology fact that we have to deal with.

[Mr Highvalue]

Another wealthy influencer trying to convince men that women's choices in men have nothing to do with biological choices and they can be "mind hacked".

Wait for the ending to hear what he says about men on dating apps and you'll realise that unless your an ultra good looking man, forget playing that dating app game.

[Johnny Fever]

Wait for the ending to hear what he says about men on dating apps and you'll realise that unless you're an ultra good looking man, forget playing that dating app game.

That's the only, realistic takeaway from the whole thing (I'm not a fan of Cooper). The only reason I've considered it is to get a few friends off my back about "getting out and trying" without having to go through an entire diatribe about when I try to approach women and get shot down in a variety of ways. Of course, some of these people keep saying they'd set me up with friends, but it never ever happens.

If you venture down the rabbit hole of dating apps it's best to strictly view it as entertainment. I've heard of people meeting on them, but the success stories are few in comparison to meeting somebody organically.

[Mr Highvalue]

Here is yet another take on the dating apps and social media thing and how it has made life MUCH MORE difficult for the average man today. This was sent to me by a guy I know who is involved in this conversation. He is James E Stubbs:

Part 1: https://ibb.co/bPRsv2L

Part 2: https://ibb.co/QkjdThh

[Mr_Right]

Yes the dating app statistics have been reflecting this trend throughout. It is "hypergamy" at play. Women will seek out what they perceive as high value men from their perspectivr (or bad boys, lets call them chad and tyrone) and most men generally seek out variety when they can get it.

As a rule women seek out men higher than them on the social status ladder and value scale. So a very good looking man or very successful man is the 20% they're seeking out..they effectively ignore every average man until their beauty fades.
 
Therefore you have apps facilitating a best of both worlds scenario.

Hey look, things weren't all that different before, before it was women going out clubbing or to bars to hook up with the same men. Why go through the hassle of that now you can use an app?

The only issue is that women are at their prime till they hit the late 20s and then they're quickly past that once they hit the magic 30.
The trouble is that they've been spoilt by all the attention they received and think they're all 10 out of 10s because higher value men will sleep with average and less than average women too..even less than average looking young women are more attractive than pretty women over 30 because fertility is the true attractive force men seek out. So you have the problem that an average looking young woman can sleep with a football player and they set the bar high and don't realise they have no chance whatsoever with a high value male.

What tends to happen is when these tinderellas are riding the dick carousel from their late teens, they invariably fall for one of these men who have literally no interest in them except that every hole is a goal. You end up then with a large proportion of women who've been hurt because they've been ultimately screwed and rejected by Chad and Tyrone.  Chad and Tyrone will never stick around for them. They'll either impregnate and leave them or break their hearts and the women will channel their inner misandry.

Women hold the sexual power until they hit a certain point and then from then on they'll be nothing except fuck buddies.

Most women lie about their body count. Dont be surprised if is usually well over 80 these days thanks to dating apps.

When clever tinderellas start to pass their prime,  they'll settle for a regular guy because they need that meal ticket . Bring the beta nurturing guy in. Control him with basic access to sex, nothing fancy though, not all the positions or dirty action she gave to Chad or Tyrone. Further don't forget to add that she'll cheat any chance she can get and you may end up cuckolding by bringing up a child that isn't yours.

Single mums are very much there to use you. As a rule of thumb, never ever date a  single mum unless her circumstances are exceptional. You should never settle for a single mum because she's settling for you and baby daddy will always take priority over you and you're only a resource, nothing more in most cases.

Obviously there's good girls out there who don't behave this way but you're more than likely to to encounter a woman who is past her prime and settling rather than a young hot woman with traditional morals and behaviour. Thank God for feminism empowering women 🙌

So, your mission if you choose to accept it is to use basic mystery method etc if you're not high status. Work on being successful and physically fit. Put the energy into bettering yourself. Don't give up, don't be disheartened. Take up the challenge , be the best version of yourself.

And keep your eyes open. How old is the woman, is she approaching 30, is she a single mum, is she neurotic as hell
( alpha widow). Don't settle for a whore (304). Vet a woman properly and don't settle easily. Look for red flags always.

[sigma]

Yes the dating app statistics have been reflecting this trend throughout. It is "hypergamy" at play. Women will seek out what they perceive as high value men from their perspectivr (or bad boys, lets call them chad and tyrone) and most men generally seek out variety when they can get it.

As a rule women seek out men higher than them on the social status ladder and value scale. So a very good looking man or very successful man is the 20% they're seeking out..they effectively ignore every average man until their beauty fades.
 
Therefore you have apps facilitating a best of both worlds scenario.

Hey look, things weren't all that different before, before it was women going out clubbing or to bars to hook up with the same men. Why go through the hassle of that now you can use an app?

The only issue is that women are at their prime till they hit the late 20s and then they're quickly past that once they hit the magic 30.
The trouble is that they've been spoilt by all the attention they received and think they're all 10 out of 10s because higher value men will sleep with average and less than average women too..even less than average looking young women are more attractive than pretty women over 30 because fertility is the true attractive force men seek out. So you have the problem that an average looking young woman can sleep with a football player and they set the bar high and don't realise they have no chance whatsoever with a high value male.

What tends to happen is when these tinderellas are riding the dick carousel from their late teens, they invariably fall for one of these men who have literally no interest in them except that every hole is a goal. You end up then with a large proportion of women who've been hurt because they've been ultimately screwed and rejected by Chad and Tyrone.  Chad and Tyrone will never stick around for them. They'll either impregnate and leave them or break their hearts and the women will channel their inner misandry.

Women hold the sexual power until they hit a certain point and then from then on they'll be nothing except fuck buddies.

Most women lie about their body count. Dont be surprised if is usually well over 80 these days thanks to dating apps.

When clever tinderellas start to pass their prime,  they'll settle for a regular guy because they need that meal ticket . Bring the beta nurturing guy in. Control him with basic access to sex, nothing fancy though, not all the positions or dirty action she gave to Chad or Tyrone. Further don't forget to add that she'll cheat any chance she can get and you may end up cuckolding by bringing up a child that isn't yours.

Single mums are very much there to use you. As a rule of thumb, never ever date a  single mum unless her circumstances are exceptional. You should never settle for a single mum because she's settling for you and baby daddy will always take priority over you and you're only a resource, nothing more in most cases.

Obviously there's good girls out there who don't behave this way but you're more than likely to to encounter a woman who is past her prime and settling rather than a young hot woman with traditional morals and behaviour. Thank God for feminism empowering women 🙌

So, your mission if you choose to accept it is to use basic mystery method etc if you're not high status. Work on being successful and physically fit. Put the energy into bettering yourself. Don't give up, don't be disheartened. Take up the challenge , be the best version of yourself.

And keep your eyes open. How old is the woman, is she approaching 30, is she a single mum, is she neurotic as hell
( alpha widow). Don't settle for a whore (304). Vet a woman properly and don't settle easily. Look for red flags always.

Based. @Mr_Right on fire. Nothing will more summarize than above answer about current dating scenario.

[Stride]

I like Alex from the Playing With Fire Youtube. The guy isn't the best looking but has a lot of tips for dating apps. I'd watch the videos, I also have his old pdf book somewhere with tips.

They SOB + Evolve was two sprays each. SOB twice to neck, Evolve one spray to each elbow crevice.

[SigmaWolf]

Yes the dating app statistics have been reflecting this trend throughout. It is "hypergamy" at play. Women will seek out what they perceive as high value men from their perspectivr (or bad boys, lets call them chad and tyrone) and most men generally seek out variety when they can get it.

As a rule women seek out men higher than them on the social status ladder and value scale. So a very good looking man or very successful man is the 20% they're seeking out..they effectively ignore every average man until their beauty fades.
 
Therefore you have apps facilitating a best of both worlds scenario.

Hey look, things weren't all that different before, before it was women going out clubbing or to bars to hook up with the same men. Why go through the hassle of that now you can use an app?

The only issue is that women are at their prime till they hit the late 20s and then they're quickly past that once they hit the magic 30.
The trouble is that they've been spoilt by all the attention they received and think they're all 10 out of 10s because higher value men will sleep with average and less than average women too..even less than average looking young women are more attractive than pretty women over 30 because fertility is the true attractive force men seek out. So you have the problem that an average looking young woman can sleep with a football player and they set the bar high and don't realise they have no chance whatsoever with a high value male.

What tends to happen is when these tinderellas are riding the dick carousel from their late teens, they invariably fall for one of these men who have literally no interest in them except that every hole is a goal. You end up then with a large proportion of women who've been hurt because they've been ultimately screwed and rejected by Chad and Tyrone.  Chad and Tyrone will never stick around for them. They'll either impregnate and leave them or break their hearts and the women will channel their inner misandry.

Women hold the sexual power until they hit a certain point and then from then on they'll be nothing except fuck buddies.

Most women lie about their body count. Dont be surprised if is usually well over 80 these days thanks to dating apps.

When clever tinderellas start to pass their prime,  they'll settle for a regular guy because they need that meal ticket . Bring the beta nurturing guy in. Control him with basic access to sex, nothing fancy though, not all the positions or dirty action she gave to Chad or Tyrone. Further don't forget to add that she'll cheat any chance she can get and you may end up cuckolding by bringing up a child that isn't yours.

Single mums are very much there to use you. As a rule of thumb, never ever date a  single mum unless her circumstances are exceptional. You should never settle for a single mum because she's settling for you and baby daddy will always take priority over you and you're only a resource, nothing more in most cases.

Obviously there's good girls out there who don't behave this way but you're more than likely to to encounter a woman who is past her prime and settling rather than a young hot woman with traditional morals and behaviour. Thank God for feminism empowering women 🙌

So, your mission if you choose to accept it is to use basic mystery method etc if you're not high status. Work on being successful and physically fit. Put the energy into bettering yourself. Don't give up, don't be disheartened. Take up the challenge , be the best version of yourself.

And keep your eyes open. How old is the woman, is she approaching 30, is she a single mum, is she neurotic as hell
( alpha widow). Don't settle for a whore (304). Vet a woman properly and don't settle easily. Look for red flags always.

Thank you for this Mr_right (are you the right_mr guy on old PT with pic of a mirror shirtless selfie)


That's the ultimate reality check here. Myself an average man when I dress up with mones I am at 6-7 at my best (I am a bit overweight for my height not obese), lucky would be 7.2. I have no problem with average woman who isn't player typically uni students. 

The really good looking ones typically won't like me (HB7-10) unless I have mones on like Voodoo, DP, Alpha Q whatever or dress up to best with good minded IN REAL LIFE lol....

Asian girl I like (high quality HB8-10) like Asian guy like Kevin Nguyen or Asian baby boy (fit, sharp look, bad boy , tattoo type )

Sigh

I am saying all these because I got matched with a legitimate hot Hb 6-7 girl from philiphines who is my type and I notice I am not the only one who she talk to. Girl with choices definitely won't talk to you alone on dating app. Only way to win her over is either being rich, fulfill her fantasy for her to marry someone overseas or May be mones lol

[SigmaWolf]

Here is yet another take on the dating apps and social media thing and how it has made life MUCH MORE difficult for the average man today. This was sent to me by a guy I know who is involved in this conversation. He is James E Stubbs:

Part 1: https://ibb.co/bPRsv2L

Part 2: https://ibb.co/QkjdThh

That's true . Usually average looking girls who are introvert or in uni don't get approached hahaha

[SigmaWolf]

Wait for the ending to hear what he says about men on dating apps and you'll realise that unless you're an ultra good looking man, forget playing that dating app game.

That's the only, realistic takeaway from the whole thing (I'm not a fan of Cooper). The only reason I've considered it is to get a few friends off my back about "getting out and trying" without having to go through an entire diatribe about when I try to approach women and get shot down in a variety of ways. Of course, some of these people keep saying they'd set me up with friends, but it never ever happens.

If you venture down the rabbit hole of dating apps it's best to strictly view it as entertainment. I've heard of people meeting on them, but the success stories are few in comparison to meeting somebody organically.

By the way Johnny, I am genuinely curious are you the guy in the profile picture.... I think I saw it somewhere before as in familiarity....