Friendzone Destroyer

[Max Grey]

Hi all!!
I try to pick up an evergreen topic that everyone dealed with at least one time in the life.
I remember in the old forum this topic was largely discussed and i remember also many users adviced that the best products in friendzone situations are ETFZ and Xist, saying also that this last one does even a "reset" effect when used correctly.
So, i own these products and tried both  many times but i was curious to know if there is something else or some mixes which enchances the desired effect!
The actual target (a friend of mine i know since 20 years which i had a little flirt so many years ago only one time) has been exposet to both ETFZ and Xist. After several experiments and dosages i started to see "strange" behaviours after using Xist lately. I tried also other mones with this girl, one of the bests is Evolve which created visible and powerful effects several times.
What is your experience with these products and with FZ in general?

[TracerX]

It's a topic that's going on and on. As a rule pheromones are weak in this area cause people you already know are used to your signature.

XisT has this rumour lurking around here that it has a magic reset effect that is some miracle cure. I haven't experienced it myself though I own a full bottle of XisT, wouldn't say it does a reset. Many who tried it didn't have his effect.

ETFZ is a good product, I could say it actually helped me sleep with two friends, but it was in tandem with juggling around some pheromones, meaning I sometimes used it sometimes switched.

To get out of the friendzone an alpha mone and good game is enough. Ultimately the friendzone is an illusion that's for some reason agreed upon by the man and a woman. Learn to dispel it first, risking "losing her" then you'll be able to work properly.

[sigma]

When you say destroying friend zone that have multiple ways do it that's why we have multiple products list.

Suppose you want a long term relationship with a friend then emotional imprinting pheromones like N.A., Xist, Voodoo etc. works where women fall for you emotional more than sexual aspects of the relationship.

Suppose you want just a hookup or ONS with friend doesn't care about long term relationship N.P.A., A.V., D.P., Evolve etc. works where women is attracted to you sexually and then it might or might not women see you as a long term partner.

Then there are pheromone which try to be all rounder like B.W., U.R.(Speculation from reports of UR) where women see you as a good fucker and good lover i.e. (her crotch and her heart) beats simultaneously.

However, every pheromone has different timeline, dosage, required skill to drive a pheromone and effects to reach the required objective to get out friend zone.

[Phero_SA]

Xist for me did nothing really, similar experience to using hand sanitizer as cologne.

Honestly the best way to escape the dreaded friendzone is to use sexual tension. ETFZ was reported to be good in that area, but YOU need to put in the effort as well

[Spanish Fly]

My to-go seduction combo of BW + Taboo has converted 5 female friends into FWB.
Just don't talk about it with her. Once she's had about 20 minutes of close exposure, stop whatever you are doing or saying, to catch her attention, look at her with full eye contact without saying a word, gently pull her in, kiss her.
With this combo, she'll keep saying "we shouldn't be doing this". Don't respond. She'll be in a state of inner conflict, and will escalate herself.
My final advice; be careful what you wish for!

[Johnny Fever]

My to-go seduction combo of BW + Taboo has converted 5 female friends into FWB.

What had been your typical doses?

[Max Grey]

Firts of all, thanks for your detailed answers!
I have a few considerations in my mind and i hope to generate interest and maybe use this 3D as a guide for other people who are facing with this common situation, let's see what happend!
As i said in an other 3D, sometimes is not easy to appreciate the real effect of a mone because of other factors involved in the situation and it's usual (for me at least) to switch between several products to find the best one for the current target. Said this, the problem is that some mones require more than one exposure to work properly, for an example: i remember on the old forum someone reported ETFZ as a really "slow" mone even if it's very powerful. In this case, and considering that the friend target knows very well you and your signature, it's very important to choose well only one mone and use it for a longer time even if sometimes it seems it doesn't work.
An other consideration is about the personality and the game you can manage. In my case, i'm definitely not alpha and i consider myself as a "good guy". Considering this, using alpha and strong sexual mones sometimes could doesn't match whith what you really are. For an example i like so much BW due to the pleasant scent and for the selfies but i have to be honest, i never seen any effect on people around me!
After all this long post, i have to say that lately i have a simphaty for Xist because i like to believe in the "reset" effect they say and because it seems to generate strange but good effects in the last times i used it. But i'm still not certain this is the best choice for the situation because of the thoughts i tried to put in this post!
I don't want to bored you by telling all de details about my target, evrn if they are important of course. The only thing it seems very important to me is that in this case, even if, what is missing is the sexual aspect, i think the best way to act is the "falling in love" game, also regarding to the mones. The real problem i think, is not related to the lack of attraction but mostly to the "i dont want to ruin our friendship" thing

[sigma]

My $0.02

You seem like you need some long term relationship with that girl. You should go for N.A.+ Xist. N.A. has sexual component as well. A college sweet heart directly asked me "Do you want to have sex with me?" with dead serious look with this combo. I gave her many previous exposure of N.A. Also, I have heard that N.A. on high doses have very profound and visible sexual component.

[TracerX]

Firts of all, thanks for your detailed answers!
I have a few considerations in my mind and i hope to generate interest and maybe use this 3D as a guide for other people who are facing with this common situation, let's see what happend!
As i said in an other 3D, sometimes is not easy to appreciate the real effect of a mone because of other factors involved in the situation and it's usual (for me at least) to switch between several products to find the best one for the current target. Said this, the problem is that some mones require more than one exposure to work properly, for an example: i remember on the old forum someone reported ETFZ as a really "slow" mone even if it's very powerful. In this case, and considering that the friend target knows very well you and your signature, it's very important to choose well only one mone and use it for a longer time even if sometimes it seems it doesn't work.
An other consideration is about the personality and the game you can manage. In my case, i'm definitely not alpha and i consider myself as a "good guy". Considering this, using alpha and strong sexual mones sometimes could doesn't match whith what you really are. For an example i like so much BW due to the pleasant scent and for the selfies but i have to be honest, i never seen any effect on people around me!
After all this long post, i have to say that lately i have a simphaty for Xist because i like to believe in the "reset" effect they say and because it seems to generate strange but good effects in the last times i used it. But i'm still not certain this is the best choice for the situation because of the thoughts i tried to put in this post!
I don't want to bored you by telling all de details about my target, evrn if they are important of course. The only thing it seems very important to me is that in this case, even if, what is missing is the sexual aspect, i think the best way to act is the "falling in love" game, also regarding to the mones. The real problem i think, is not related to the lack of attraction but mostly to the "i dont want to ruin our friendship" thing

Sometimes pheromones perform miracles and you get what you want with little to no effort, however most of the time it just ain't like that. So if you expect you'll wear XisT or ETFZ and someday your girl will "see the light", it just won't work that way.

If it is as you say that there's attraction and she just doesn't want to ruin the friendship, you just kiss her and show her its ok.

Btw, XisT is full of alpha molecules. Just saying,

[Max Grey]

I'm glad to see so many answers on this topic and i like to see different opinions!
Anyway yes, honestly i'm more oriented to long term relationships, i'm not really in the ONS situations, so i'll take in my mind your advices about it!
I totally agree about what you all say: kiss her and don't be afraid! I'd like to be like this but i have to be honest, i'm not so brave and i can't risk to loose good friends if something goes wrong. However i want to find a way in the middle and try to use good mones for the situation which goes along with my kind of soft game.
It's interesting to know that Xist is full of alpha molecules, this is an other topic i wanted to open sooner or later but if you all are up, we can talk about that also! I see in various products that basically the main molecules involved are always the same, what changes are the proportions. I was curious about it because i'm fascinated about how people act to a certain molecule more than others and why some people are more responsive to a mone rather than an other person. In this case, i noticed in this girl that the best blends are Evolve and Xist, nothing happend with BW, L2K for an example. I have to try better NA+A1 and ETFZ that seems to work but haven't got the chance to test them properly. My thought is about what these products have in common and maybe try to tune them better or finding a good combo considering these informations!

[sigma]

I totally agree about what you all say: kiss her and don't be afraid! I'd like to be like this but i have to be honest, i'm not so brave and i can't risk to loose good friends if something goes wrong.

Moments of Embarrassment are where alpha shines and stay calm even if everything is going wrong, aloofness is the key. That is if you try to kiss and she rejects don't act like you did something wrong or keep awkwardness on your face just act normal such that nothing has happened it is not your fault that you have a male desire. Women mirrors the male reactions when men lead. If you show awkwardness she will be awkward as well. Last thing "Rejections are badges for the womanizers"

[yarn]

I believe Thundr said, "Girls often want what other girls have. Copulins give this impression. The cops will also help by keeping you out of beta land and friendzone." It was about gaining FWBs but might help in your situation.

[Phero_SA]

I'm glad to see so many answers on this topic and i like to see different opinions!
Anyway yes, honestly i'm more oriented to long term relationships, i'm not really in the ONS situations, so i'll take in my mind your advices about it!
I totally agree about what you all say: kiss her and don't be afraid! I'd like to be like this but i have to be honest, i'm not so brave and i can't risk to loose good friends if something goes wrong. However i want to find a way in the middle and try to use good mones for the situation which goes along with my kind of soft game.
It's interesting to know that Xist is full of alpha molecules, this is an other topic i wanted to open sooner or later but if you all are up, we can talk about that also! I see in various products that basically the main molecules involved are always the same, what changes are the proportions. I was curious about it because i'm fascinated about how people act to a certain molecule more than others and why some people are more responsive to a mone rather than an other person. In this case, i noticed in this girl that the best blends are Evolve and Xist, nothing happend with BW, L2K for an example. I have to try better NA+A1 and ETFZ that seems to work but haven't got the chance to test them properly. My thought is about what these products have in common and maybe try to tune them better or finding a good combo considering these informations!

Not really, the primary driver is androsterone with steering molecules along with it, there's nothing alpha about Xist.

[Mr Highvalue]

I would like to try Xist it sounds interesting as a friend zone destroyer and a resetter I will definitely add this to the next order I make with Pxs.

[TracerX]

I'm glad to see so many answers on this topic and i like to see different opinions!
Anyway yes, honestly i'm more oriented to long term relationships, i'm not really in the ONS situations, so i'll take in my mind your advices about it!
I totally agree about what you all say: kiss her and don't be afraid! I'd like to be like this but i have to be honest, i'm not so brave and i can't risk to loose good friends if something goes wrong. However i want to find a way in the middle and try to use good mones for the situation which goes along with my kind of soft game.
It's interesting to know that Xist is full of alpha molecules, this is an other topic i wanted to open sooner or later but if you all are up, we can talk about that also! I see in various products that basically the main molecules involved are always the same, what changes are the proportions. I was curious about it because i'm fascinated about how people act to a certain molecule more than others and why some people are more responsive to a mone rather than an other person. In this case, i noticed in this girl that the best blends are Evolve and Xist, nothing happend with BW, L2K for an example. I have to try better NA+A1 and ETFZ that seems to work but haven't got the chance to test them properly. My thought is about what these products have in common and maybe try to tune them better or finding a good combo considering these informations!

Trying to play it safe won't serve you. Your issue is a psychological one and a mindset one. If you're expecting to behave the same as you are trying to preserve the friendship and that by just adding pheromones you'll make a difference you'll be disappointed.

Most guys pretend they want to be friends with a girl and that this friendship is important to them, so much that they believe it. In reality most want more and once this girl starts fucking another dude they grow cold and distanced.

Time and time again I had girlfriends who told me about "On this guy is my best friend, he's so nice". And once things between me and the girl got serious guy grows cold and show his true face and that he was hoping for something more.

Ask yourself the following questions:

- Would she mean as much to you if she was ugly?
- Would you still want to be her friend is she's fucking someone else, married the guy and has children with him?

After thinking a bit most people will say no. Now with that said friendship between men and women does occur, but seeing your way of thinking you probably don't need this friendship honestly.

You have to risk it to a degree, you're a man that's how it works. Also remember that she having you as a best friend she's getting a lot of the benefits of having a boyfriend/man around her while you don't get what you need.

Lastly, I'll tell you good sex never ruined any friendship.