A314 Formula (According to Renny and Indi-player)

[TracerX]

Got requested to post the old formula of A314 by Indi-player. Personally Indi's version didn't work for me while Renny's did work. There you guys go:


Indi-players post:

Alright another thread from yours truly

I got myself lifetime supplies so I don't have to worry if you guys buy it all.

Super cheap compared to what current pheromone manufacturers charge

Also tried and tested and having lots of fun with it.



Perfumersworld.com

Very very cheap concentrated

Alpha AndrosteRone 100mg for 5 bucks
Beta nol 100 mg for 5 bucks
Alpha nol 100 mg for 5 bucks
Copulins 100 mg for 5 bucks
EST 100mg for 5 bucks
Oxytocin 100 mg for 5 bucks
AndrosteNone 100mg for 5 bucks

From Thailand

Tried and tested. You wonder why pheromone vendors charge an arm and leg for single molecules or blends.

Search "concentrate" and click on male , alpha male unisex, bonding , female, feminine

Or search "factor" for even cheaper 10mg vials

I got myself 1g of each



Lastly this is from pherotruth user Renny

"
mix 5 parts androstenone, one part alpha androsterone, one part androstadienone, 2 parts a-androstenol, one part b-androstenol, a few drops of copulins"
Each molecule is dissolved as 1mg in 10ml vial, the rest is whatever carrier you want to use. Droppers

Me personally less than that works great for me

He mimicked the best of A314 through these molecules +A1

I did through thc/CBD (TAC) or astaxanthin instead of A1.

Honestly I've seen exactly what I expected from it. Thank god for the lifetime supply.

Respect, admiration, love, status, sexy, you name it.

There is no guide other than dbots mixing thread that taught me a lot about mixing and ratios

That same thread as renny's he explains what he does. So simply put, this is what he does :

Drops 1mg of a single pheromone in a 10ml of carrier oil (I use fractionated coconut) and one drop is his "one part". However I find that this is too much product and I didn't want to be applying 7 different single molecules individually. No thank you

What I did is as follows

I bought 10 of every "factor" (mentioned below) which gives me around 100mg. They send you a 10ml bottle which contains 100mg of content ( or 100,000 Mcg)

This 10ml contains 330 drops so every drop is 303mcg.

1 drop in my own diluted 30ml spray bottle of 20ml fractionated coconut + 8ml of ethanol + 1ml of iso e = 1.1mcg per spray (since my sprayer bottle has 300 sprays due to the high oil content)

I then followed renny's "parts" and dropped them in the sprayer

So this is what I did

5 parts Androsterone means *5 parts male factor* 5 drops inside the sprayer (I really believe he made a mistake, having such a high content of none over Androsterone is not respectful at all I do believe he messed up the letters)


1 part AndrosteNone means *1 part alpha male factor* 1 drop inside sprayer

1 part A1 , I personally use CBD /thc, a concentration of 1000 Mcg which gives me 3.2mcg per spray (you can use astaxanthin in its place as well, I did successfully, but I find my wife around CBD or THC induced pheromones doesn't make her jealous)

2 parts alpha Androstenole * 2 parts truffles * 2 drops inside sprayer

1 part beta Androstenole *1 part bonding factor * one drop inside sprayer

Few drops of copulins * few parts of female factor * I put three drops inside sprayer

That's it.

Now you have life time of supply of molecules on the side left and made a 300 sprayer mix with alpha 314.

Any oil works. Even perfume oils and you can even drop a drop or two of oud in there for silage and a good smell.
It feels good being self reliant when it comes to making your own blends. I feel all these years of trial and error has done me wonders.

OFF TOPIC:
Go to temu and buy yourselfs a 23 (Canadian dollars) package of 15 essential oils at 5ml (which equals 5g each, many lifetimes worth of ingredients) .

Each one of them has a pheromonal activity. Make sure you dilute the quantity you need with a mixture of oil and alcohol and not just oil. Alcohol helps it travel to other people's nose, unless you sweat like a pig

[SimonIsHome]

Can you just confirm the below as its a bit confusing?

2 parts alpha Androstenole * 2 parts truffles * 2 drops inside sprayer
- Perfumers world lists Alpha Androstenol as Unisex factor

1 part beta Androstenole *1 part bonding factor * one drop inside sprayer
- Perfumers world lists beta Androstenol as truffle
Are you also adding bonding factor (oxy)?

Thanks

[ebbnflow]

Amazing!!! Thank you! Definitely will try later. 

[Light]

Honestly I've seen exactly what I expected from it. Thank god for the lifetime supply.

Respect, admiration, love, status, sexy, you name it.

Are you still using this mix? Where does it stand compared to your top 5 mones of 2023? I'd love to hear more about this, it sounds very interesting.

[TracerX]

Honestly I've seen exactly what I expected from it. Thank god for the lifetime supply.

Respect, admiration, love, status, sexy, you name it.

Are you still using this mix? Where does it stand compared to your top 5 mones of 2023? I'd love to hear more about this, it sounds very interesting.

Those were Indi-Players words, I copied the old post to our forum as it was requested by a few members.
I myself don't use it, but that's only because I don't have the batch I made anymore, I'd have to get the raw materials again and re-make it at some point.

[ebbnflow]

I know it's been a while since the original posts, but I just visited the perfumersworld website and prices were $5.02 per gram.

That's a lot of mones - 10x more than back then?

If I receive a gram of each, should I just put 1 ml of the received mones into a 10 ml bottle and add 9 ml of perfumer's alcohol to get the same concentration as back then?

Help is appreciated. I'm not so good with the maths...

[TracerX]

I know it's been a while since the original posts, but I just visited the perfumersworld website and prices were $5.02 per gram.

That's a lot of mones - 10x more than back then?

If I receive a gram of each, should I just put 1 ml of the received mones into a 10 ml bottle and add 9 ml of perfumer's alcohol to get the same concentration as back then?

Help is appreciated. I'm not so good with the maths...

Search for it with the keyword 'factor' then its less. the 5.02 version is a high concentrate.

[ebbnflow]

Ok, I emailed them about the factor and this is what they stated:

"Male Factor has 0.01% (w/w) of 3-alpha-Androsterone in 99.99%(w/w) of a proprietary base designed to regulate it.
That's 1 in 10,000 (0.1gram/Kg) so that when used at 1%(w/w) in a compound supplies 1 part per million, a good level to start experimenting to find the optimum level without unpleasant overdosing."

So the erone content is .01% and the carrier is 99.99%, and in 10 grams would that only be 1mg.

10 [grams] x .0001 [or .01%] = .001 grams

.001 [grams] x 1000 = 1mg (1000mcg)

Then 1 [mg] / 303 (drops) = .0033 mg/drop (33 mcg/drop)

Or is my math wrong? Am confused

[Light]

Honestly I've seen exactly what I expected from it. Thank god for the lifetime supply.

Respect, admiration, love, status, sexy, you name it.

Are you still using this mix? Where does it stand compared to your top 5 mones of 2023? I'd love to hear more about this, it sounds very interesting.

Those were Indi-Players words, I copied the old post to our forum as it was requested by a few members.
I myself don't use it, but that's only because I don't have the batch I made anymore, I'd have to get the raw materials again and re-make it at some point.

Aah cool, makes sense. Idk the idea of using all these single molecules as standalones and then mixing them after i learn a little bit more really excites me. i wanna make my own mixes someday probably. though, i'll take it a bit slow for now because i'm still pretty new to the pheroworld

[Dsouza]

A314 was a legend originally.

Now regarding AD's current version.
Re: not homemade formula but Androtics version


Anyone buy it in 2024?  The classic version?

What kind of results do you notice?  Only in the office or can you wear it to resto-bars too?  Only Corporate image or wealthy RockStar too?

Very militant / negotiations only, or good for getting work done and pulling hot women too?

Thinking of buying it to test from AD.  Money is not a factor for my decision. 

[RussianWolf]

Have you ever tried API from PXS, supposed to be Steves version of it. 

https://pheromonexs.com/xs107-beta-api-oil.html?search=Api

[Dsouza]

Have you ever tried API from PXS, supposed to be Steves version of it. 

https://pheromonexs.com/xs107-beta-api-oil.html?search=Api

I tried API.  I didn't like the women it attracted hb5.  Only good for getting things done.  Didn't seem to have impact on others like the A314 I used to use.

How does 2024 a314 oil compare to TUSC or Alpha Treasures? AT attracts hb9's as well and can be sexual .

Is the a314 2024 oil sexual at all? Can it be used for dating?

[Dsouza]

No need to bother with an answer.  I'll find out myself.

Just purchased a bottle of A314 Classic oil from Androtics.

Looking forward to adding it to my collection of alphas!

Look for reports!

[Dsouza]

Attention!
——————


To all Chemistry majors on here:

Do we have any chemistry graduates here who are capable of recreating these bottles for those of us, how should I say, less chemically inclined?  If I could get someone with a scientific/chemistry background (read : no chance of f*cking up the formula) to recreate one 5 ml of each bottle (Indi's and Renny's) for me (Minus the a1)  , I would love to test them out and see how they work, and decide which one is right for me.  Once I decide which version is right for me (Indi's or Renny's) I will bulk buy additional ready-made bottles from you at reasonable price. 

Also I'm not looking for a militant version like rev32 but one that gives you Status, makes you money and get better jobs, gets VIP FAME and pulls the hot hb9's for dating and sex (ONS).  This was how a314 from AD was in 2010-2012 I believe.

PM "DSOUZA" if you're competent and willing.

[ebbnflow]

Ok, I emailed them about the factor and this is what they stated:

"Male Factor has 0.01% (w/w) of 3-alpha-Androsterone in 99.99%(w/w) of a proprietary base designed to regulate it.
That's 1 in 10,000 (0.1gram/Kg) so that when used at 1%(w/w) in a compound supplies 1 part per million, a good level to start experimenting to find the optimum level without unpleasant overdosing."

So the erone content is .01% and the carrier is 99.99%, and in 10 grams would that only be 1mg.

10 [grams] x .0001 [or .01%] = .001 grams

.001 [grams] x 1000 = 1mg (1000mcg)

Then 1 [mg] / 303 (drops) = .0033 mg/drop (33 mcg/drop)

Or is my math wrong? Am confused

Looks like my last calculation here was wrong.

.0033 mg/drop x 1000 = 3.3 mcg/drop for the factor

I must have multiplied by 10,000 instead of 1,000.

The concentrate is 10x stronger than the factor so concentrate would be 33 mcg/drop. 10 grams or 10 ml of this would be around $50, so if my math is right this time, it's not really cheap.

I might try to source my singles from Aroma Fero. Looks like they have better prices. PT singles look pretty cost effective, too, but they don't offer cops.

AF single molecules:

A1 10mg/10ml, 50 mcg/drop, 200 drops - £29.95 or $37.51 USD
Cops 10mg/10ml, 34.4827586 mcg/drop, 290 drops - £29.95 or $37.51 USD
ERONE 10mg/10ml, 34.4827586 mcg/drop, 290 drops - £13.95 or $17.47 USD
NONE 10mg/10ml, 50 mcg/drop, 200 drops - £29.95 or $37.51 USD
ANOL 10mg/10ml, 34.4827586 mcg/drop, 290 drops ?? *Assumed - £29.95 or $37.51 USD
BNOL 10mg/10ml, 34.4827586 mcg/drop, 290 drops - £29.95 or $37.51 USD

*I need to ask AF how many drops are in their ANOL, though the last time I emailed them they didn't respond. So I might have to find out the old fashioned way by measuring drops in a ml. Should be either 20 or 29 drops per ml.

Subtotal - $205.02 USD

Shipping

UPS Express £20.90 or $26.17 USD
Standard post £9.90 or $12.40 USD

Express shipping cost per bottle - $4.36
Standard shipping cost per bottle - $2.07

Total with express shipping - $231.19
Total with standard shipping - $217.42

The same 10mg/10ml from Perfumer's World would be $255.50, but that's not including A1 since they don't offer it.

I think I will try Renny's version with 5 parts ERONE, as A314 supposedly contains 80% ERONE:

"A314/m "" Mixture, Androstenone, Androsterone, Alpha- and Beta-Androstenol, TAA to buffer; Alpha male, confident, trust me vibe. 18 Pheromones total "" 80% Androsterone , 20% steering molecules. Gives wearer the aura of the true Alpha Male, induces trust from other males, leadership, cooperation. Calming, trusting, authority vibe."

- from https://pherotruth.fans/printthread.php?tid=8779 (18th post down)

There seems to be TAA in A314 as a buffering molecule. Androsterone Sulfate is purported to be TAA or extremely similar, so I may look into adding some of that, too. Looks like the only choice from vendors for this is PXS (AndrosteRONE Sodium Sulfate). I might experiment by adding 1 part of this and maybe upping the parts of ERONE.

I may also look into adding molecules like estratetraenol, pregnenolone, DHEAS, EpiRONE, beta androstanol and oxytocin, and maybe putatives such as XSP-F (TAF), XSP74, XSP83, XSP86 and XSP96, though I don't want to get too ahead of myself. So I will start with Renny's formula, and then maybe try it with RONE-S afterwards.

But first I need to save a bit to drop on the AF singles.