Nude Alpha Gel

[sigma]

I ran today half of Gary Tester bottle of NAG. I didn't find any difference between NAG and NA. I think I need more testing for NAG or lower my dose to see the difference between two.

Where did you test it? How much did you take? How long did you test it? did you talk to the same women more than once for a longer period of time? 

At dance class. Around 10-15 pump of tester spray each glob is very small for tester. I did only for one day so conclude result on one day not good idea. But, NAG shows same power as N.A. It gave me same lovey dovey eyes and warmth from women. I was feeling I was wearing N.A. I small difference I found was young women were showing bit more good reaction.

[CJ_W]

oh ok great, Dance class is a good place to test...although 10-15 pumps is a bit much, even for tester. I'm assuming you used the whoe bottle? You probably should have used 3 pumps and spread it out over a few weeks, especially with N.A.  it's a good mone to use less of at a time.

[sigma]

I'm assuming you used the whoe bottle?

Half of tester bottle. Yeah, I used bit more. But, Didn't faced any ghosting. Felt like I was wearing regular N.A. oil.

[CJ_W]

I'm assuming you used the whoe bottle?

Half of tester bottle. Yeah, I used bit more. But, Didn't faced any ghosting. Felt like I was wearing regular N.A. oil.

Try like half a pump for a few outings then a full pump after that. More is not always better. Especially with NA. I think you wasted a lot of product. What are you rushing for?

[sigma]

I'm assuming you used the whoe bottle?

Half of tester bottle. Yeah, I used bit more. But, Didn't faced any ghosting. Felt like I was wearing regular N.A. oil.

Try like half a pump for a few outings then a full pump after that. More is not always better. Especially with NA. I think you wasted a lot of product. What are you rushing for?

So this my speculation that I increased my tolerance for N.A. means to see the same result of 1 or 2 drops of N.A. which I used get in past I need to apply more pheromone. In the past 3 drops were overwhelming for me. In past If I applied N.A. 3 drops in consecutive days I used to get fever. But now I can go upto 8-10 drops easily without OD and ghosting seeing the positive result from women. I back this speculation by reading the reports of Old pherotruth where people used to go 10-15 drops easily and some other people called that OD land for them. You can find those reports specifically for LAL products on old pherotruth.

[Wildsau]

NAG is a concentrated version of NA Oil. So a few drops of NA oil probably is not enough, I usually used 4-6 drops

I know I usually default for 6 - 8 drops. Looking at AS3's Fall in Love mix he mentioned a 3-inch strip of NA when in the roller bottle. I wonder what that equates to in drops?

I honestly dont think it matters that much, The roller is kinda scuffed anyway, when I had the oil roller I just took it out and used a dropper.

His combo was NA+A1+Glace right?  Glace was a social if I remember right, so you could probably use HS in it's place. (I could be wrong but yeah) I think the interaction with A1 and those two together was the most important part. A1 being the Lynchpin of the combo.

A good replacement for Glace is a mix of Hypnotica/Dirty Primitive in a ratio 3:1.You can mix it in one bottle.Add a few drops to your Na/A1/mix for a potent combo.

[ripShadow]

A good replacement for Glace is a mix of Hypnotica/Dirty Primitive in a ratio 3:1.You can mix it in one bottle.Add a few drops to your Na/A1/mix for a potent combo.

Glace was gone by the time I started, so I'm really intrigued by this and love to try it (especially if it softens the seriousness NAG sometimes has). I can safely say that adding DP to NAG had a positive effect (never tried that combo with A1 because wouldn't A1 be counter-intuitive to the DP?), but adding Hypnotica? At that point you've created a new blend (NA/A1/DP/H), no?

What's your application? When I combo NAG/A1 it is usually one pump NAG + 1-2 drops of 10ml A1. DP is 4mg Andro and 2mg of Cops so I'd probably only go one drop (or swipe) if I am adding that to NAG as a base. Then three drops of Hypno? I am game to try it, that just sounds like a f-ton of mones.

[kwow]

A good replacement for Glace is a mix of Hypnotica/Dirty Primitive in a ratio 3:1.You can mix it in one bottle.Add a few drops to your Na/A1/mix for a potent combo.

Gonna give this a try at some point

[Wildsau]

I have mixed both in one bottle in a ratio 3/1 Hypnotica/Dp.I usually add 2 drops of this mix.But you can add also one dab of Dp+1-2drops of Hypnotica.

[CJ_W]

I have NAG and used it a few times, It's a LOT stronger than the oil, so I have to maybe use half a pump. 

NA as a whole again is to use as an imprinter, and a long term kind of thing. Of course in clubs and bars it doesn't really do much unless you expose your target to it for a longer period of time.  I went to a club with this on and sat near a few ladies, and within about 20 minutes of so, they started noticing me and started chatting me up.

Again, I've tried this in a coffee shop and nothing like that happened.  I did get the big eyes of a lady sitting next to me when I began talking to her for a while.   Got her contact info and got ghosted lol. But she really seemed to like my company and lingered just like NA oil does.

Would I use this as a main mone?   Not sure, I'd need to test this more, but honestly I think this is a better one to use when you're already in a relationship and want to get her latching on to you more.  I think NA oil can be used like this as well and maybe more in the club/bar scene. But I think there are better products for that.

If anyone still has NAG I'd just keep testing for a month or two.

That's interesting. I've used anywhere from a third of a pump to like 10 pumps. For me it doesn't do anything.

Clubs and parties don't mix well with me and mones if it's anything sexual or too intimate bonding. I'll find a circle cleared around me and my party within 20 mins of being in my phero cloud.

NAG I've more tried to use with restaurants and bar dates. Never did anything by itself. With Voodoo it did bring girls back. Like I would meet with them like 3-4 times within a week and a half to 2 weeks. But they weren't necessarily doing so with romantic interest

Sorry I missed this post. You mentioned you cleared the floor around you for 20 metere in a circle....you were wearing too much. 

I'm doing more testing of it so maybe in a few months I'll have more data. Otherwise, I'd suggest saving it for when you have alone time with you and the gf.

[kwow]

Sorry I missed this post. You mentioned you cleared the floor around you for 20 metere in a circle....you were wearing too much. 

Even at 1spray of something like the old TUTH or would do the same at clubs for me. Didn't mean NAG specifically for this particular part. There's also the consensus that women will move away because they either feel confused at their feelings or frustrated if you don't make a move.

But NAG just does nothing for me at a tiny drop to many pumps, only negative self effect of zoning everyone out and being in my own head because I just don't care.

Heard a few people have inconsistent reports with NAG themselves vs the oil so I'll be trying the oil soon

[CJ_W]

Sorry I missed this post. You mentioned you cleared the floor around you for 20 metere in a circle....you were wearing too much.

Even at 1spray of something like the old TUTH or would do the same at clubs for me. Didn't mean NAG specifically for this particular part. There's also the consensus that women will move away because they either feel confused at their feelings or frustrated if you don't make a move.

But NAG just does nothing for me at a tiny drop to many pumps, only negative self effect of zoning everyone out and being in my own head because I just don't care.

Heard a few people have inconsistent reports with NAG themselves vs the oil so I'll be trying the oil soon

That's strange, because NAG has effects with me when I go out, but I tried it with HS (a social) as As3 and others tested that out a lot on the old forums (the combo was NA(g) a Social(some used glace, others didnt doesn't really matter) and A1. But others just used the NA with the social. The social brings the ladies to you(or at least lets you be social with them) and the NA keeps them.

Only thing is that combo, NA(g) /A1/ Social, is pretty expensive.


If you have a bottle of NA(g) I'd just use the bottle before getting the oil, if you feel like you HAVE to get another product, get a social, honestly, A Social product is something everyone should have anyway, even if they don't have other products.

anyway I'm still testing it though so I'll see later on, over time if it really works and what situations it works in...I've had some VERY interesting experiences with it so far(as in I would have been able to easily get laid the same night or at least later on that week if other external issues weren't in the way), I'll be testing it more in unrestrained ways later.

EDIT:  BRO WAAAIT waitwaitwaitwaitwaitwaitwait....

I just skimmed through your journal.... you keep mixing VOODOO with NAG. . . .

It looks like you're mad scientisting.    you have one entry where you used NAG with 9 drops of... voodoo wth... Then 100 MCG A1. . . .

You're ruining your data. I'd say take a couple of weeks off of mones, then test NA(g) ALONE for two weeks (while writing your reports) then maybe add a social if you have for two more weeks(if you don't, dont worry about it) then with A1 (30-40mcg is just enough)

[kwow]

If you have a bottle of NA(g) I'd just use the bottle before getting the oil, if you feel like you HAVE to get another product, get a social, honestly, A Social product is something everyone should have anyway, even if they don't have other products.

Yeah I have a lot of socials. Built quite the stack since I got in the game back in the AD days almost 15 years ago (I feel old typing that out)

You're ruining your data. I'd say take a couple of weeks off of mones, then test NA(g) ALONE for two weeks (while writing your reports)

I definitely tested NAG solo a lot before combining it. I had four 30ml bottles and been testing for 6  years. Down to the last bottle now and testing it with Voodoo and A1 because I've also tested them vigorously solo so I know what they do individually.

Voodoo was my product to use as a "not so good but have it on hand" replacement for glace in AS3s fallout mix since I found my glace to not have much of an effect. This is actually going to be updated with Hypnotica.

It looks like you're mad scientisting.    you have one entry where you used NAG with 9 drops of... voodoo wth... Then 100 MCG A1. . . .

So as I mentioned, I wasn't getting anything with NAG. So did a lot of testing across a broad range to cover all the bases. Started with a pea size, getting all the way up to 10 pumps. Bear in mind this was as gradual changes over a few years. But it was being done because there just weren't any effects.

So nothing but introversion with NAG alone, so let's test in combo. Some Pits work better in combos than by themselves, let's see if that works. That was the thinking.

100mcg of A1 was a new testing measure for me after seeing many other users report on it. Back in the day 30-50mcg was considered the sweet spot. Decided to test the theory since, again, I've tested these 3 mones quite a lot solo, and combined as a poor man's As3's fallout mix

[Kingtut Savage]

I sure do miss you guys, I've finally found you since we lost the original forum.  10 pumps of nag is wild. I've gone as high as 2 but usually one full pump or less. For the oil I've gone as high as 12 but I typically stay in the 4-6 range. Na with dp is awesome.  UT if I could only get 2 pheros, I'd go with na and od combo. I absolutely love the gel but from what I've seen the oil smacks a little harder. If I had both I'd use the gel for everyday wear and the oil for like date night or when you already know she's coming over

[DssMaster]

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