I find this video interesting, especially the 3rd layer

[Mr Highvalue]

Look at the triangle she presents at the beginning of the video. Then onwards from about the 30:30 point in this video the discussion gets interesting. Definitely got me raising my eyebrows.

Thoughts?

[Dsouza]

I purchased Kezia Nobles entire dating program 14 years ago.  Cost me almost $700 CAD. 

She's a beautiful woman with a great set of boobs, and lots of intelligence but her techniques revolves around dressing your age and riches, showing status to get the phone number, tricking women with conversation tactics to get them reeled in, and using text to trick women to pick up the phone.

Honestly, her technique is dated and not geared for ONS.  She doesn't show smooth escalation from meet to fuck  close.

You can't learn to catch a woman from other women. You can't learn to catch a fish from other fish. No, you have to learn from the fisherman.

[TracerX]

Ah that woman.. I mean she's right some mones can hit guys hard. I've already shared one story about my hommie getting seduced by a not so attractive girl who turned out to be using mones and he would also fall for here (you can read it here).

To us some mones on girls can be the equivalent of a girl being naked near us, so our natural instincts prioritise having sex with her. However I highly doubt most PUA gurus and wannabe gurus have the same level of understanding of mones as we do.

[Mr Highvalue]

I purchased Kezia Nobles entire dating program 14 years ago.  Cost me almost $700 CAD. 

She's a beautiful woman with a great set of boobs, and lots of intelligence but her techniques revolves around dressing your age and riches, showing status to get the phone number, tricking women with conversation tactics to get them reeled in, and using text to trick women to pick up the phone.

Honestly, her technique is dated and not geared for ONS.  She doesn't show smooth escalation from meet to fuck  close.

You can't learn to catch a woman from other women. You can't learn to catch a fish from other fish. No, you have to learn from the fisherman.

I do mostly agree with you Dsouza.

Women don't care so much for the whole "dress your age and dress rich." anymore. These days it's more about if a man is sexually attractive to a woman or not. It's hookup culture these days after all.

Women are too smart these days to be tricked into anything, believe me when I say they have seen it all and now know most of the tricks men play.

Her technique is definitely dated. I wouldn't ask a fish how to catch one. 100% I totally agree with you.

I'm just mainly interested in the 3rd layer part. How she uses pheromones, and if indeed what she is doing is actually using them, or is it something else with internal body energy. If she is using pheromones, I would never have imagined an attractive female dating coach using them. That's probably the last person I would expect to use them.

[Dsouza]

Kezia Noble knows NOTHING about mones.  She's a PUA and spent 95% of her life teaching pickup.

99% of PUA bootcamp teachers know NOTHING about mones.  They'll recommend shitty no name products that sell like hotcakes in California.

Who knows the most about mones?  It's the vets on the pheromone forums and the big name pheromone manufacturers who had been at it with great products over the last 30 years on this forum , Androdics, and Love Scent all during their time and days.

Nowadays mones are becoming more mainstream.  Lots of people pretending to know them but they're snakes trying to cash a quick buck.

[Mr Highvalue]

By the way,when she talks about the 3rd layer (she refers to as pheromone) she mentions a show she did where the guy got a boner and felt sparks that felt like electricity going up his arms. This is the video in case anyone is interested in watching it

[Dsouza]

By the way,when she talks about the 3rd layer (she refers to as pheromone) she mentions a show she did where the guy got a boner and felt sparks that felt like electricity going up his arms. This is the video in case anyone is interested in watching it

C'mon man she's an hb9.  She just needs to smile to get a guy off.  Why does every modern day pua guy or girl look like an hb9 if their technique is everything? All lies.

Look at Royce Gracie first UFC fighter.  He was the smallest out of all the guys who were double his weight yet he came out the champion 3 out of 4 of the first UFC's.  That's called technique and game man. Nowadays all the fighters know how to defeat his family style.

These PUA actually want you to believe it's their game but the guys are all 6 foot or taller and look like hb9's and are loaded with cash,

Don't be tricked by any pua crap nowadays, Speed rushing shit doesn't work.  Women want authentic connection from great conversations.

Show me an average 40+ yo , 5'6" hb6 man making 45k a year getting hb9's with pua game in todays world. lol

The only way to get an hb9 is to wear elevators, transform your body into a model, dress to the 9's, make 6 figures or more, drive a sporty car,  have your own big condo or house, and have excellent seduction skills.  Natural seduction not pua seduction. And wear the highest quality pheromones.

Quality subliminals may be better than conscious PUA approach.  They enter your subconscious mind making you less likely to resist the changes and affirmations consciously.  Therefore, they can change you from the inside out.  Make you a better man. 

[Artist Sam1]

By the way,when she talks about the 3rd layer (she refers to as pheromone) she mentions a show she did where the guy got a boner and felt sparks that felt like electricity going up his arms. This is the video in case anyone is interested in watching it

I've told you about this technique when we met i think 😉

[Mr Highvalue]

By the way,when she talks about the 3rd layer (she refers to as pheromone) she mentions a show she did where the guy got a boner and felt sparks that felt like electricity going up his arms. This is the video in case anyone is interested in watching it

C'mon man she's an hb9.  She just needs to smile to get a guy off.  Why does every modern day pua guy or girl look like an hb9 if their technique is everything? All lies.

Look at Royce Gracie first UFC fighter.  He was the smallest out of all the guys who were double his weight yet he came out the champion 3 out of 4 of the first UFC's.  That's called technique and game man. Nowadays all the fighters know how to defeat his family style.

These PUA actually want you to believe it's their game but the guys are all 6 foot or taller and look like hb9's and are loaded with cash,

Don't be tricked by any pua crap nowadays, Speed rushing shit doesn't work.  Women want authentic connection from great conversations.

Show me an average 40+ yo , 5'6" hb6 man making 45k a year getting hb9's with pua game in todays world. lol

The only way to get an hb9 is to wear elevators, transform your body into a model, dress to the 9's, make 6 figures or more, drive a sporty car,  have your own big condo or house, and have excellent seduction skills.  Natural seduction not pua seduction. And wear the highest quality pheromones.

Quality subliminals may be better than conscious PUA approach.  They enter your subconscious mind making you less likely to resist the changes and affirmations consciously.  Therefore, they can change you from the inside out.  Make you a better man. 

No  I definitely do not trust the PUA community and gurus nowadays as the nature of the game has morphed into something way different. Back in the late 2000s I payed a PUA company $3000.00 AUD for a course in daygame. We hit the streets for 3 days approaching and chatting to girls with their techniques that we practised beforehand. Did it work? Yes, but not on HB7s and above. The skills were invaluable, and some I still use today. However the nature of the game has changed so I have evolved my techniques even though my main method is still daygame.

[Mr Highvalue]

By the way,when she talks about the 3rd layer (she refers to as pheromone) she mentions a show she did where the guy got a boner and felt sparks that felt like electricity going up his arms. This is the video in case anyone is interested in watching it

I've told you about this technique when we met i think 😉

Was it this  or something else? It could have been. Either way, yes I think the correct pheromones would enhance its effects.

[Alphonse]

The only way to get an hb9 is to wear elevators, transform your body into a model, dress to the 9's, make 6 figures or more, drive a sporty car,  have your own big condo or house, and have excellent seduction skills.  Natural seduction not pua seduction. And wear the highest quality pheromones.

And yet she'll still suck the dick of a bouncer on minimum wage on a night out and get wet over a criminal in prison for murder.

Self-improvement is essential to develop as a man, but deluding yourself into believing these are somehow essential to banging 9s (or whatever your goals are) is just another way of putting the pussy on a pedestal and lowering your own intrinsic self worth in your own eyes.

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[Dsouza]

One other point I'd like to make is it doesn't really matter if you're the most attractive man, it matter more whose the most attractive man AROUND.

What I mean is going to nightclubs is breeding grounds for ONS but the competition is too stiff.  (PUN intended).

Finding HB9's when they're at places that have less competition from other men like where women outnumber men by a factor of 3:1 or more makes it easier to pick them up , all things being equal.

So visiting many places many macho men consider "gay" may actually be conducive to meeting hot women.

Also if you're in a city where the nightclubs and bars are gamed out you're SOL.

But if you're in a city with a higher population of women to men like many Slavic countries etc your chances are much easier to get laid.

Here in Toronto it's harder to get laid than Montreal.   I know some guys who make trips to the nightclubs in Montreal just to get laid.  Women go to bars there to get laid.  Here in Toronto they get dolled up at nightclubs to show off their egos and tell guys off.

[Mr Highvalue]

The only way to get an hb9 is to wear elevators, transform your body into a model, dress to the 9's, make 6 figures or more, drive a sporty car,  have your own big condo or house, and have excellent seduction skills.  Natural seduction not pua seduction. And wear the highest quality pheromones.

And yet she'll still suck the dick of a bouncer on minimum wage on a night out and get wet over a criminal in prison for murder.

Self-improvement is essential to develop as a man, but deluding yourself into believing these are somehow essential to banging 9s (or whatever your goals are) is just another way of putting the pussy on a pedestal and lowering your own intrinsic self worth in your own eyes.

A

Yes, in a way this is very true. Self improvement should be naturally part of who you are as a man without having to use it solely for the purpose of getting some action with the women.

[Mr Highvalue]

One other point I'd like to make is it doesn't really matter if you're the most attractive man, it matter more whose the most attractive man AROUND.

What I mean is going to nightclubs is breeding grounds for ONS but the competition is too stiff.  (PUN intended).

Finding HB9's when they're at places that have less competition from other men like where women outnumber men by a factor of 3:1 or more makes it easier to pick them up , all things being equal.

So visiting many places many macho men consider "gay" may actually be conducive to meeting hot women.

Also if you're in a city where the nightclubs and bars are gamed out you're SOL.

But if you're in a city with a higher population of women to men like many Slavic countries etc your chances are much easier to get laid.

Here in Toronto it's harder to get laid than Montreal.   I know some guys who make trips to the nightclubs in Montreal just to get laid.  Women go to bars there to get laid.  Here in Toronto they get dolled up at nightclubs to show off their egos and tell guys off.

Toronto sounds a lot like the Sydney scene.

When you approach a woman solo that you don't know you had better be so much better  and I mean by many miles ahead of all the guys she knows through her social group and friends already in her immediate options. Because she is always going to stick with the familiar unless the new guy who approaches her is the most glittery and shiny object she has ever known in order for her to stray away from the familiar. This is why having a good social circle with attractive women is vitally important nowadays unless you are shiny mega-Chad to her.